Forget the Tug of War! All Electric Trucks Have This Achilles Heel Including the Tesla Cybertruck!

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  • SquishBangBlow
    SquishBangBlow 2 months ago +351

    *The Ike Gauntlet and off-road segments were great!*

    • CRINGE GOD
      CRINGE GOD 4 days ago

      @CoffeeHolic True very very true

    • CRINGE GOD
      CRINGE GOD 4 days ago

      The thing about gas or deisel trucks is that you cqn refil the car any where as long as u have a jerry can with u but with a tesla u cant charge with a jerry can unless u have a solar panel in there and u open it

    • David Beattie
      David Beattie Month ago

      @Walt WTF are you talking about armored vehicles for that was A Piece of shit treehugger mobile.

    • nelio SAMch
      nelio SAMch Month ago +1

      @Billy Putnam Yes, I agree. The problem with regenerative breaking is that it won't work if battery is over 80% of charge. But if it is on electrify road the excess of electricity go back to the grid. When driving on electric roads for safety reasons the speed limit is 60mph and it can go faster but no recommended.

    • Billy Putnam
      Billy Putnam Month ago +1

      @nelio SAMch it's so Wrong that the people in these situations are interested in the next Dollar to be made and removed from your account and not how much can we save and how far can we go! Do you know if they have even optimized the recharging while driving\Towing? Some race cars use a alternator that drives off of the drive shafts or wheels\moving parts instead of the parasitic losses off of the engine. And say belts\Gearing to the trailer wheels are free spinning and could be a good place for Regen to get more power from when braking or down hilling etc?

  • Todd Bagwell
    Todd Bagwell 5 hours ago

    Damn sick of TVclip adds cant enjoy any vidoes without that crap

  • K P
    K P 12 hours ago

    All the big trucks passing by could charge that piece of shit with their alternators.

  • Parent of Twins
    Parent of Twins 14 hours ago

    Europe doesn't have smaller roads and slower speeds limits on their interstate which is what you are driving on. Germany's Autobahn famously does not have a speed limit and in France the speed limit was 130 kph which is 80 mph. Ireland was pretty much the same and I don't remember Switzerland but it was in that range of 120-130 kph.

  • Parent of Twins
    Parent of Twins 15 hours ago

    The Tesla truck is the ugliest vehicle I've ever seen. It's make the Pontiac Aztec look like Megan Fox. Who the hell designed that thing a 5 year old with a ruler? I usually don't let a vehicles looks affect my opinion on it too much but there are limits and the Tesla is just too damn ugly to drive.

  • Chris Hinds
    Chris Hinds 15 hours ago

    Adding a motor to the trailer won't do ANYTHING to help range. You still need so much power to the ground, and whether it comes from one or three motors doesn't really matter. Same with regen. You don't get more regen unless the two motors on the tow vehicle aren't holding it back when running down hill. And even then, you may be limited by how much current you can cram back into the batteries... The only solution is a small generator on the trailer, providing some juice so you aren't pulling 100% from the batteries. Basically, the trailer would make a hybrid electric out of a pure electric... Interesting question... can the Tesla charge (or supplement) if you plug it in while driving? Generator on a hitch carrier time... :) Oh, it appears that charging with the "mobile" kit only addes 2-3 miles of range per hour. Not going to help...

  • Marvin Hensbergen
    Marvin Hensbergen Day ago +1

    Pedal to the metal isn't efficient at all! If you are racing uphill with a trailer, where others cars cant keep up, your not testing range, your trying to prove something...

  • wezleey25
    wezleey25 Day ago

    How much regen do you get coming back down the gauntlet?

  • Kim Decker
    Kim Decker Day ago

    I think my scooter can go out back quicker in the easier lmao

  • think bigger
    think bigger 3 days ago

    I am surprized how well electric did pulling 4000LBS even if only for short distances. Contractors using a trailer for business in a urban setting would benefit from this setup. I personally would use a Tesla as a everyday urban vehicle and since most households have more then one vehicle there would be little disadvantage, I personally like the fact you can plug it in at home and never have to get gas if using as a urban run about. How often does the average person in a urban setting travel far enough for range to come in play. I am actually curios what percent of pickups tow anything.

  • EVgine
    EVgine 3 days ago

    DIYev shows this with their all electric Box truck which was tested at 19,580 fully loaded and would go 72 miles per charge using a 120KWH battery pack. That means Edward Monforts all electric box truck mile for mile and lbs for lbs performed better than a Tesla. DIYev now has an all electric F150 version using full OEM parts except for engine block and exhaust.

  • Mussa Musumeci
    Mussa Musumeci 3 days ago

    Grow some balls off-road and send it!
    “Hilux or Landcruiser hold my diesel”

  • Abner Chaves
    Abner Chaves 3 days ago

    Ok boomer......

  • holleyman1970
    holleyman1970 3 days ago

    36 gallon tank and three 5 gallon jerry cans of gas is hard to beat when you are off road.

  • Wong Brackman
    Wong Brackman 3 days ago

    Democracy. Capitalism. Liberty.

  • CRINGE GOD
    CRINGE GOD 4 days ago

    At 22:05 u are in my home state I see , can you go to Gellete Wyoming next that would make me SUBER happy

  • concious2
    concious2 4 days ago

    Come back when you do the test with the Cybertruck!

  • Joe O
    Joe O 5 days ago

    I have a CNG Honda that has a 200 mile range. Always expect to refuel early. Not usable for long trips

  • Tony L
    Tony L 5 days ago +1

    Y’all past my house!!!

  • MyOneBlack Friend
    MyOneBlack Friend 6 days ago

    Please. Please. Please. Ancient Suzuki Samurai versus Tesla Model X a.k.a. Voltron.
    I also have to say I really appreciate your team and the great videos. Now Suzuki v. Tesla. Fight!

  • rocot brent
    rocot brent 6 days ago

    Why are you guys isn’t mentioning cold weather conditions using electric cars? Will wait the same test at cold snowy winter conditions.

    • rocot brent
      rocot brent 6 days ago

      how much of battery volume will be used for heating truck salon?

  • Remington Baker
    Remington Baker 6 days ago

    I ain't ever getting an electric car/truck and this vid just wrote it in stone

  • Sarge Michele
    Sarge Michele 7 days ago

    You would think you should be able to charge/recharge the batteries via solar panels. I mean, the reason people drive electric cars is to get away from fossil fuels but it takes fossil fuel to make electricity to charge the batteries at this point, no?

  • Hugo Cardoso
    Hugo Cardoso 7 days ago

    Do the same test with a Ford Model A and see how far you go, you will not even leave the parking lot, you guys are full of it...

  • Hugo Cardoso
    Hugo Cardoso 7 days ago

    Like I. Take the off road route to worka and back and ofcourse I also take my caravan with me there is always the possibility of a little nap when I am on break, too guys are so usefull, gona sell this shit Tesla and get my self a Ford f150 or something like that, or maybe a big Disel car, what do you guys think...

  • Reinier Jacobus
    Reinier Jacobus 7 days ago

    Just take a small tractor'kie, on a small pick-up, when the batteries won't soldier any further, just hook small tractor up, and go slowly back home. Small pick-up will go back home on gasoline only !

  • Ales sandro
    Ales sandro 8 days ago +1

    21:30
    Suggesting not only improving the EV but also the trailers is a great idea!
    Imagine charging the cybertruck with solar energy from your trailer and not relying too much on charging stations

    • think bigger
      think bigger 3 days ago

      I am curios how big of a solar setup you need to keep a Tesla charged, there is a guy who built a solar shed in his backyard and is able to use a level two charger.

  • $knighto$
    $knighto$ 8 days ago

    this litteraly happens to all gas cars stop hating

  • Panther Fridays for displacment

    13:05 "in EU with small roads and LOW SPEED LIMITS" Germany wants to know your location
    BC EVsto quite bad at speeds past 180kph or about 112 in Microwaves Per Hitchhiker as for example a Model 3 Performance range goes down from avg 500km to a mere 100-150km if you floor it
    as well as the top end speed and acceleration gets quite poor past the 200kph mark for having ~500hp and more then 600nm

    • Matthew Newcombe
      Matthew Newcombe 6 days ago

      The towing speed limit in Germany is 90kmph. And most people only drive 120kmph in Germany without a trailer. Stop spewing shit, you're making yourself look silly.

  • Jim Piaz
    Jim Piaz 8 days ago

    What a good idea just carry spare cans of electricity. Or actually if you carried a couple of batteries the same size as a couple of gas cans they might be a little heavier than gasoline. But how much energy could you draw from to lithium ion batteries the size of gas cans. That's a good idea brother.

  • Jim Piaz
    Jim Piaz 8 days ago

    These guys are a couple of assholes. They act like they've discovered some Tesla conspiracy. This is the first year model run of the Tesla pickup truck and they're beating it up I'm sure they would be happy if Society went back to gasoline forever. What a couple of freaking Republicans.

  • nemodab
    nemodab 8 days ago

    well if you go the electric rout and needing to tow long distance you should think to get a hydrogen generator "eco friendly" i just dont know if the extra weight would make it viable

  • Cale Therault
    Cale Therault 8 days ago

    I think the absolute best solution for an electric truck would have to be a very efficient cooling system and power management when either it is pulling a trailer or off-roading. I also really like that idea of a trailer with its' own electric motor to assist in towing.

    I do have one question though, on average how far does the range go down with traditional gas-powered trucks during towing or off-roading?

  • Adrian Chong
    Adrian Chong 8 days ago

    The poster here have a typical ICE big truck mentality. My great truck can do everything. With the great big V8 or diesel in front I will smash everything in a vehicle collision. He deliberately did everything wrong on the EV side to show off his great BIG truck vs. the EV.. By comparing his TRUCK to an EV CAR he is debritely NOT comparing apples to apples. He should be comparing a Honda Civic to the EV. Secondly he is not selecting the right trailer. Transport Evolved went from Portland Oregon to CES and back with no problem carrying all their luggage in a trailer. They selected the RIGHT TRAILER.
    Need Extra Cargo Space For Your Electric Car? by Transport Evolved
    tvclip.biz/video/NiOQzKsfKeM/video.html
    All the off road test show he has no idea of ground clearance needed. Should have taken a Rinian EV. If he had used an ICE car with low ground clearance like a Lamborghini the Lamborghini can not go off road either.
    All the poster has done is show HE DOES NOT KNOW how to ADAPT to using EVs. BOO!

  • A.D. B
    A.D. B 8 days ago

    Thanks for the sane analysis amidst the hype. I think I'll stick with my gas-powered engine

  • Keeper 0f masks
    Keeper 0f masks 9 days ago

    way to be bias.

  • Reverend Al
    Reverend Al 9 days ago

    He's got range anxiety!

  • Kyle Schack
    Kyle Schack 9 days ago

    AH YES, the electric vehicle. How many charging stations are using purely renewable energy these days? Is there even a charging station in my town? Hmmmm

  • Robert Lynk
    Robert Lynk 9 days ago

    I think part of the problem is lack of mechanical advantage. If they were to put a underdrive in for towing and off road would work out better

  • cort wilcox
    cort wilcox 9 days ago

    no one has their hands on any of these. till then its only speculation. not to mention when towing a 20k lb trailer that duramaxs range aint exactly great either.

    • cort wilcox
      cort wilcox 8 days ago

      @Ryan lukens this video was about range when towing. I have doubts that it will be any different than our duramax diesels. But you might want to look into the new charging tech for lithiums bout 15 20 mins. I have little doubt that guys like you will hold out till diesel fuel is twenty bucks a gallon and available only as a specialty fuel. Much like leaded fuel now.

    • Ryan lukens
      Ryan lukens 8 days ago

      cort wilcox but to refuel that Duramax takes about 15 minutes. Then it’s back to business. Just enough time to take a leak, grab a bag of chips and a Milky Way, and go. The downside, you will be comfortable sitting on the side of the road enjoying that candy bar, I will have to eat while I drive my Duramax.

  • H G Beach
    H G Beach 10 days ago

    Ok, so you can't use them for towing or offroad. What a surprise... or not really?
    I wonder what the children in the cobalt mines in Congo thinks about the Tesla and the other EV's?
    tvclip.biz/video/RBf58FjxJmk/video.html

  • gortiz24x7
    gortiz24x7 10 days ago

    Can you do the same test for gas trucks pls ?

  • Kelvin Ham
    Kelvin Ham 10 days ago

    Agreed, with fossil fuel trucks you can easi l y carry extra fuel, not possible in EVs. Current battery technology off road vehicles is not there yet. Hybrid is really still the go.

  • Doug Brennan
    Doug Brennan 10 days ago

    how many 4WD go off road 0.001% the rest do school pick up which is what the X is used for just like the rest of them.

  • Doug Brennan
    Doug Brennan 10 days ago

    To be fair take a petrol similar car and do the same and see what its gas mileage is.

    • Sonny Hernandez
      Sonny Hernandez 9 days ago

      It's not about the gas mileage, Tesla always wins in efficiency. What happens when either vehicle runs low on power source. The Tesla is severely limited in its ability to recharge.

  • 1 wordhere 1wordthere
    1 wordhere 1wordthere 10 days ago

    The reason why they're pushing electric trucks cars is because you're still tied to their power grid and now you have reduced range with the so-called smart meter controlled Beyond imagination

  • Guinness
    Guinness 10 days ago

    I'll be back

  • Zach Dancy
    Zach Dancy 10 days ago

    This video Needs to be tagged Directly to Elon!

  • mishran
    mishran 11 days ago

    This post is reviewing an EV truck, off road without actual EV Truck...... I guess you should wait until you can actually do these test on Cybertruck

  • Peter Jackson
    Peter Jackson 11 days ago

    Hybrid

  • john doe
    john doe 11 days ago

    I can't wait to see the day these EV trucks fail miserably.

  • John P
    John P 11 days ago

    need to tie down Andre's hand when he talks

  • John P
    John P 11 days ago

    that B1 truck would be great with a deleted diesel

  • roots No1 M Souljah
    roots No1 M Souljah 11 days ago

    Yes it's amazing that fuel consumption stays the same with ice vehicles towing. And of course extra mass has nooooo more effect on regen.
    Nah, electric vehicles???? Definitely no r&d. Must be dead technology.....

  • robert robert
    robert robert 11 days ago

    I live in TEXAS , AC is a must have. Range, 850 miles or more,with a loaded ( 12,000-20,000 Lb.) trailer. In Texas a 500 mile turn around for a high school football game is the norm. I realy like the idea of a electric pic-up truck but we must get real. Trucks here have tool boxes an other gear, maybe 1000 Lb. load all the time. Think of the times you drive around town,get down to 1/4 tank of fuel ,get a call and must go 150 miles or more right now. Untill they get cars that have a 1200 mile range,it is a waste of time to make trucks.People who need a truck need range. A 15 min. charge is great but you need a charger in every small town, and city large and small, BEFORE you sell the trucks.

    ,

  • StallionTG
    StallionTG 11 days ago

    Hooks 4400 pound trailer to a car not designed to toe huge loads then complains about it.

  • Douglas Gant
    Douglas Gant 11 days ago

    Good information. I guess it is not surprising given that my Chevy Silverado 1500 can get less than 50% it’s normal gas mileage, depending on the weight of a trailer. If I’m getting 10 mpg (and I have on a trip with a 7,000 lb travel trailer) with a 26 gallon tank that’s at most 260 miles range. So in the future if the Cybertruck gets only half of its 500 mile range that’s about the same with 250.

  • Dave Welch
    Dave Welch 12 days ago

    Electric vehicles have been around. 1900"s . 38% were electric. They aren't new..
    Construction sites have had reliable and efficient cordless tools for years.
    It's just a matter of time with better batteries.
    As far as towing. A sedan pulling a horse trailer. Is a joke. I PERSONALLY pulled an old 1900# travel trailer out of a 12 inch rut. That is easy.
    Physics takes over with STOPPING. 4500 lb trailer. With a 3000 lb lead vehicle. Don't worry. Because not everyone maintains brakes. WHEN the brakes fail you can't stop. Law of inertia. Newton's first law.

  • William Harkness
    William Harkness 12 days ago

    Yup not perfect literally like the 2nd electric truck like this to ever release. Give it 5 years

  • Klaus Godtkjær
    Klaus Godtkjær 12 days ago

    So this EV, not at all designed for offroading, is not doing so well offroading? O'rly?