Make the MacBook THICC Again

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  • Published on Mar 12, 2019
  • MacBook Pro reviews show problems from being too thin. The 16" MacBook Pro will hopefully fix some of this stuff.
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  • Dave Lee
    Dave Lee  8 months ago +4961

    I hope Apple puts out a THICCBook Pro this year. The race for ultra-thin needs to end

    • Darth Awar
      Darth Awar 4 days ago

      The Touch Bar is a Gimmick it is too small and placed where they are not easy to see!
      The keyboards suck!
      No real cooling!

    • ReEeEeEe
      ReEeEeEe 6 months ago

      Thicc af

    • Giovanni Deiana
      Giovanni Deiana 6 months ago

      Dave Lee yes we need it

    • Charles Dizon
      Charles Dizon 6 months ago

      TVclipr:Make the MacBook thicc again
      Me:It would take a miracle for them to listen to their customers

    • waquzy
      waquzy 6 months ago

      ​@sarath kumarthey can easily make it thicker again, that's what Apple did with the iPhones in the past, iPhone 6/7 were thinner than the current gen of iPhones (X and Xs)

  • NoyPi RealTalk
    NoyPi RealTalk 3 days ago

    The old macbook is better than the paper thin 2019 new macbooks. Thick. Durable, looking expensive, no issues, easy to fix and change ssd/battery etc. very thin laptop looks like it will break after 1 to 2 yrs. my macbook pro is living a good life from 2011. Still works like a dragon.

  • Patrick McCutchan
    Patrick McCutchan 18 days ago

    Apple should allow OWC to sell blog.macsales.com/39345-owc-makes-macbooks-pro-again-with-game-changing-product and support the expansion or this add-on creating a more modular 2016/2018 MBP. I'd like to see where they are with ARM. I've been a Mac user since 1984 and to expand my knowledge last year I build my 1st Windows Box never being a windows user it was easy and I learned a lot about hardware "$768 4 8core 32gb ddr4-3200 8gb GPU beast". I got Mac OS installer to boot up on my AMD CPU but couldn't get it to start up. So I've been using windows just to get by with Lightroom & Photoshop my macs were 10+years old and breaking down. I want to get a new mac but with ARM-based MBP on the Horizon, I want to wait for my potential $3500+ config It is a lot for me to spend. HEY APPLE I can't afford a keyboard meltdown and no upgradability...

  • Benjamin Li
    Benjamin Li Month ago

    Apple just has so much good hardware, if only they fixed the thinness and keyboard

  • TEKNOCRAFT
    TEKNOCRAFT Month ago

    I dont want it thick because of the price getting higher when that happens LoL

  • Neil Ahuja
    Neil Ahuja 2 months ago

    Energizer MacBook Lmao

  • Vibhav Bharti
    Vibhav Bharti 2 months ago

    They're trying to make Macair Pro

  • zero null
    zero null 4 months ago +1

    "it's seriously stupid". lol. and totally true.
    you're the man Dave. love how you get your points across concisely. there are too many youtube channels where over 90% of the video is filler.

  • Ultra Gaming
    Ultra Gaming 4 months ago +1

    Damn that laptop in the thumbnail Looks thicc with 5Cs

  • NithinPaul
    NithinPaul 4 months ago

    Damn boii , he thicc boii

  • The Combat Wombat
    The Combat Wombat 4 months ago

    They could probably fix a lot of the issues without making them too much thicker, it'd just cost too much money when they could just repair the few (too many) that break until the next body styling is rolled out. They are so close so these issues are such a bummer.

  • John Hooyer
    John Hooyer 4 months ago

    They absolutely _do_ need to make their devices as thick as in the thumbnail.

  • 奕任陳
    奕任陳 5 months ago

    If stupid apple make MacBook pro 15 become thicker, why not buy Dell XPS 15

  • Savio Augustine
    Savio Augustine 5 months ago

    I really don't understand why people mad behind thin laptops so much especially when its giving u all these problems and that also expensive apple laptops. Trust me thicker chassis may compromise weight and movement but come on guys its not too heavy stuff man, they have much better thermal management and a lot of headroom is there to upgrade stuffs and are also very durable. Go for longevity, upgradability and durabilty. And by the way thicker laptops look way cooler than thin ones at least for me.

  • matias
    matias 5 months ago

    I also want a thicc macbook pro but i want it to have an nvidia gpu and more design apps on mac os
    It's gonna be a long wait I hope the planet still exists

  • matias
    matias 5 months ago

    Buuuuut they won't

  • Minje Kim
    Minje Kim 5 months ago

    Thick or thin, it doesn't matter. cuz people who have the money will still buy it

  • TechMyLifeVideo
    TechMyLifeVideo 5 months ago

    The only reason to make them thinker is better battery life, it’s the biggest victim of thin phones and laptops. All other issue will be solved with advances in technology, but those advances often are also a bigger drain on the battery.

  • mercedes robinson
    mercedes robinson 5 months ago

    i think they should make it thin cause we are the ones that got to carry it around n it be making our backs hurt lol

  • Brian K
    Brian K 6 months ago

    If they go to Arm processors then cooling won’t be a problem. Hopefully they can design a new motherboard with a smaller form factor and give more space for a better keyboard design. Allows them to keep that super thin look. They probably shouldn’t have gone so thin when they had to make so many compromises with the current configuration. My 13” 2014 MacBook Pro will be my last MacBook until they come up with a new design without all the compromises.

  • Ric Alonso
    Ric Alonso 6 months ago

    Lets not forget the ultra thin iMac. This is evidence of design run amok. A desktop does not have to be super thin. It serves no purpose other than Ive’s need to prove he is needed. My 2017 i9 5k iMac’s fans are on 30% of the time. iMac owner since January 1985 who uses them for work, not art pieces.

  • Daniel Jungkind
    Daniel Jungkind 6 months ago

    Make it smaller from a footprint perspective, not a thickness perspective. And use better cooling techniques! Vapor cooling? Different material?

  • MrBo Jangles
    MrBo Jangles 6 months ago

    Make Apple Thick Again! But seriously...The Pro should be thicker, the the Air super-thin and the MacBook somewhere in-between.

  • Robert Thompson
    Robert Thompson 6 months ago

    You are spot on with identifying the issues with the recent Macbooks. I saw these issues developing and opted for a 2015 MBP in 2018. Thin enough, with all the relevant ports, full travel keyboard, no dongles, etc.

  • Johnny FD
    Johnny FD 6 months ago

    I agree, it's stupid that Apple needs to focus on functionality and reliability again instead of making things thinner and thinner as no one cares. Make the Macbook Pro thicker again, get rid of the silly touch bar that no one uses or wants, and make the Macbook Air the thin laptop.

  • BonBaisers
    BonBaisers 6 months ago

    This is not the ultra-thin race, if it was the case, you won't choose aluminium body. This is a stupid marketing race. When you can't innovate, you give the customer the illusion you are perfecting the product while Apple has the art of making products worse.

  • GILBERT
    GILBERT 6 months ago

    hope they make it thick for us music producers who needs some more apple juice!

  • Zachary Sandberg
    Zachary Sandberg 6 months ago

    You forgot to mention a reduction in port options as another side effect of chasing thin aesthetics.

  • Saahil Mehta
    Saahil Mehta 6 months ago

    Exactly macbooks are supposed to a an efficient tool not a fashion statement.

  • Charles Bouldin
    Charles Bouldin 6 months ago

    I have an "early 2015" 13" MBP. It has the magsafe power connector, and 2 USB ports, and HDMI port, an SD card port, a HEADPHONE JACK(!), and it still runs perfectly. I would not trade it for a newer model. Oh, and the old style keyboard (non "butterfly") works beautifully. Apple has been moving backwards.

  • Paolo Mind
    Paolo Mind 6 months ago

    If I want a lighter and elegant mac I'll buy mac book air, or macbook without pro... If I need efficient power, I'll prefer Dell laptop, at the moment ... but I'm waiting for a future good macbook pro, because OSX is the most stable operative system I ever used. I hope your suggestions will be listen to...

  • pforce9
    pforce9 6 months ago

    They should make the new laptops as thick as the old ones and keep the electronics as small as possible and use all that extra space for a big falcon battery.

  • Shard The Fox
    Shard The Fox 6 months ago

    Apple is shite, but the Mac book is interesting, because it will never be as powerful as pcs.

  • James Doerr
    James Doerr 6 months ago

    Thicker

  • Bellicose Nation
    Bellicose Nation 6 months ago

    Remember when the race was to make the smallest phone?

  • Ivando Maia
    Ivando Maia 6 months ago

    That's why I like the models with SuperDrive. It's a little bit fatter, but I could remove the super drive slot and changed for a Caddy with an extra SSD, upgraded the memory up to 16gb and Make the dual boot, one in each SSD, Windows and MAC oS. Just need to be a Macbook pro with a Super Drive, Retina display and at least a I5 processor, if you do these upgrades you'll have the best macbook pro so far...

  • Rico
    Rico 6 months ago

    They should just make the 2015 model again but with new specs. Problem solved!

  • Lars van der Hooft
    Lars van der Hooft 6 months ago

    I own the 2015 macbook pro 15”, and I think the chassis is absolutely perfect. I love the keyboard, the ports on the side and the feel. It’s great because it’s a powerful laptop which is easy to carry around too. I don’t think I’ll upgrade to these macbook pro models soon, mainly because of the keyboard

  • David Kozma
    David Kozma 6 months ago

    well they made iPhones thicker again...

  • Benni3D
    Benni3D 6 months ago

    i'm sick of of these thin devices. They really should make them a little thicker to avoid the majority of those problems...

  • Vincent Yeung
    Vincent Yeung 6 months ago

    I think they’re going to make a touchscreen keyboard rather than trying to fix a flawed system (and I’m willing to bet they know before launch) so rather than solving existing problems they’re more likely to create newer problems to cover/make older problems obsolete.

  • Armon Mitchell
    Armon Mitchell 6 months ago

    Oatmeal

  • Thinh Phan
    Thinh Phan 6 months ago

    why dont computers today have the vga port? assuming people even remember what it was

  • IISourAyyII
    IISourAyyII 6 months ago +1

    I love my MAXED out spec 2015 MacBrookPro Retina display over any of the new macs!

  • Gabriel Bédard
    Gabriel Bédard 6 months ago +2

    Dell XPS is better than the Macbook pro

  • Ed Towel
    Ed Towel 6 months ago

    It will NEVER happen with Tim's supply chain philosophy of simplifying the production process at the expense of user capabilities.

  • Abeltensor
    Abeltensor 6 months ago

    Apple is a joke.
    As a developer, I've see so many colleagues buy these pieces of trash simply because they are POSIX out of the box. I am so glad that Microsoft has decided to make the WSL a priority in the recent windows 10 updates. Having the new Windows Terminal and WSL2 has made it easier for me to get some of these colleagues to abandon Apple machines.

  • davidson2727what
    davidson2727what 6 months ago

    I don't disagree with any points in you video as a MBP 2017 owner. But the move has been made to make smaller chassis and now apple is going to have to make improvements to the hardware to address these issues.

  • haneen Ba-aziz
    haneen Ba-aziz 6 months ago +1

    i hope they make a 17 inch macbooks again and also making it thicker

  • Alessandro Bartolini
    Alessandro Bartolini 6 months ago

    No SD card reader... nothing else to say...

  • Ralph Dempsey
    Ralph Dempsey 6 months ago

    It's Thick not Thicc

  • Adam Baldwin
    Adam Baldwin 6 months ago

    Apple definitely should make their Macbook Pro line a bit thicker. I'd even go so far as to say that the 2015 Retina could stand to be a little thicker. The benefits are way too numerous:

    1. The old keyboard was better, in every way. If the Macbook Pro were perfect in every other respect, but still had that keyboard, I still would never buy one because I cannot stand that keyboard.
    2. Ports. A thicker MBP would accommodate more of the "legacy" ports. Having two USB-C ports and a USB 3 port and HDMI port, for instance, would be more useful than having 4 USB-C ports. People still have lots of things that use some of these ports. Nobody needs 4 USB-C items plugged in at once (and if they did, they could just use a hub), but many people could use ports that don't require dongles.
    3. While I don't think they couldn't fit Magsafe into the thinner chassis, the decision to remove it is a terrible one IMO. While the adapters flimsy and leave something to be desired, the connector itself is brilliant and one of the best features of any Apple laptop. Additionally, the light on the Magsafe adapter is a great troubleshooting indicator. USB-C power connections are easy to break.
    4. Thicker battery. A thicker chassis means that the battery can be thicker, and therefore there take up a smaller footprint, leaving more space for those ports I mentioned earlier. Same goes for the iPhone, Apple claims they needed to remove the headphone jack for space reasons but had they made the phone slightly thicker, this wouldn't have been a problem.
    5. Cooling. The bane of every Macbook. Apple loves to design these things with zero cooling. With the pathetic excuses for heatsinks that they use in the name of making the stupid thing half a mm thinner, it's no wonder why these things throttle so much. What's the point in putting an i9 in the laptop when you can't use it fully? Thicker chassis means bigger heatsink, and better performance.
    6. Upgradeable storage and RAM. Yes, I know the RAM has been soldered for a while now. But we need to go back to replaceable RAM. Not only because it allows the user to upgrade in the future, but also because it means that I don't have to pull the logic board out and reflow RAM chips every time someone brings me a laptop with a RAM issue. Apple solders the stuff to the logic board solely to force their users to opt for the maximum upgrades they think they'll ever need at the time of purchase. By doing so, they can charge a premium for the component upgrades. Go look at the 2017 Air, which is still being sold, and compare their SSD upgrade options to either OWC or the price of an adapter and standard M.2 drive upgrade. You can buy an aftermarket drive for less than the cost of Apple's "upgrade" and the bonus is you get the base storage SSD on top of that. And this is on a device with a removable SSD. Think of what they charge for upgrades that are impossible without ordering from the factory. (Incidentally, if you buy the cheap non-Touchbar 13" MBP, it DOES still have removable storage, though in typical Apple fashion it uses yet another new, proprietary connector.)

    It's clear that Apple has no intention of doing this, or changing anything of these things. In fact, I read a little while ago about a patent they applied for that would use a Touchscreen for a keyboard with tiny indents to indicate key presses. This makes me think of a keyboard that is somehow worse than the butterfly keyboard. Apple does not seem concerned about the needs of their customers but rather how flashy and expensive they can make their devices. IMO, while MacOS is a fine operating system and I can see why lots of people enjoy using it, the physical changes they are making to their devices are negatively impacting the day-to-day usability and from what I see, it is actually starting to turn off more of the casual Apple users who see things like the keyboard and lack of ports as significant downgrades to the older machines they already own, machines which even after 5 or more years still do a decent job of meeting their needs (gotta give Apple some credit for that).

    This form-over-function stuff seems like a misguided attempt for Apple to continue design aesthetics that Steve Jobs pioneered. The thing is, Steve Jobs used design to not only create more elegant devices but to make them more usable. I personally think that Jobs would be rather irate about some of the design decisions Apple has recently made. Apple knows that their laptops are lasting a long time and they want to create more reasons for users to upgrade to new machines. This is why their screens are expensive and impossible to source in the second-hand market, this is why they're so adamantly opposing third-party repair. Apple is going out of their way to make their machines disposable so that they can create an artificial need to upgrade. The next time you hear anything about Apple's commitment to the environment or their recycling efforts, keep in mind the tons of usable machines and parts that end up being shredded at Apple's behest just to keep those things out of the hands of repairers like me, all so that their own customers face either an exorbitant repair cost through Apple themselves or simply replace the machine with a brand new one. E-waste is a huge problem but Apple cares more about getting you to spend more money on their devices than to keep older machines running.

  • Rei
    Rei 6 months ago

    Honestly?! They should rollback to the 2015 MacBook Pro Chassis, with their keyboards. And they can upgrade em as they go.

  • Music Lasts Forever
    Music Lasts Forever 6 months ago +1

    I use touch bar almost every single minute while using Logic Pro X and Final Cut Pro X I don't even understand how you call that useless ! are you even using your MacBook Properly?

  • Cole Wheatley
    Cole Wheatley 6 months ago

    You know apple's iPad 2 was thinner than both the 1 and 3? It wouldn't be unprecedented.

  • Derek Webster
    Derek Webster 6 months ago

    Just to add my 2 cents: I have a 2018 15” Pro I bought in October; replaced my 2012 15” Pro. Right away I wasn’t happy with the keyboard, though more or less adjusted. I think they should have left this thicker for more durable keys, components, and chassis, and perhaps *finally* implementing a touch screen. At this point, I don’t know that they should go thicker than what it is, but as components get thinner/smaller still, they should not make the device any smaller than what it is now.

  • Tamer Bekir
    Tamer Bekir 6 months ago

    I sold my 13inch, i5 2015 Macbook maybe 3 months ago to purchase the 2018 15 inch i7 Macbook and do I regret it? Kinda, but not really. I am not having throttling issues, and I actually do not mind the keyboard. The 2015 MacBook was one of the best devices I have ever used, but I am in the film and tv production industry so I needed the bigger screen, and the faster processor and even though the graphics card is not the most top-notch, it also helps so much in FCP. So, if I didn't need the performance of the 2018 Macbook then I probably wouldn't have upgraded.
    - The 2015 keyboard was the best, but I love how the 2018 feels. My WPM in down, but that is ok. It is still decent.
    - Battery life is better on the 2018, maybe because of the age.
    - Touchbar is OK. If I could have saved money going without it I would, but there are third-party apps that actually make it useful.
    - Not having the 2015 inputs is sucky, but I carry around 1 adapter with me that does everything I need it to and has all the plugs I need so it is really not a big deal to me. It is tiny and fits everywhere I go.
    - Losing the MagSafe charger. Yeah, this one sucks. I hate that it went to a type-c, but I get why they did it. The MagSafe and it's quick to unlatch was the best, and now I felt like I was gonna trip and destroy my Mac. Keep in mind I am a college student so it is the students I worry about more than me who may knock my computer over.
    HOWEVER, I purchased a magnetic type-c adapter (one gets plugged into the Mac and the other on the charger) and BAM, I have my magnet charger back. They go for around 20 bucks on Amazon.
    Overall I do not regret it but there are some things I miss. In the end, good things die and good things come. We have to learn how to adapt. That is just the tech world we live in.
    Edited: grammar

  • Jarrad Shaw
    Jarrad Shaw 6 months ago

    Make them thicker to improve usability and lifespan

  • ThePositiveKRP
    ThePositiveKRP 6 months ago

    LINUX.

  • Timmy P
    Timmy P 6 months ago

    THICC pieces of shit!