Star Wars: Vader Wasn't Always Luke's Father?

  • Published on Nov 2, 2017
  • Today Ben ventures into the Star Wars Galaxy to explain how many of their most famous and inspiring moments were NOT planned from the beginning!
    Hey Super Carlin Friends! ►►
    Google Autofill Playlist ►►
    Theories ►►
    Super Carlin Gaming ►►
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    T W I T T E R➜ &
    I N S T A G R A M➜ &
    F A C E B O O K➜
    G A M I N G ➜
    P A T R E O N ➜
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    Want to send us something?
    Super Carlin Brothers
    PO Box 4339
    Roanoke, Virginia 24015
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    Business Inquiries Only:
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    Every time you give us a thumbs up a Narwhal gets its horn! (maybe..)

Comments • 3 648

  • Daniella Snocker
    Daniella Snocker 20 hours ago

    I started when I was eight, but I didn’t watch the prequels until I was like ten. Maybe a little older

  • Gavin Orgeck
    Gavin Orgeck 8 days ago


  • Olivia Hansing
    Olivia Hansing 10 days ago

    #5 is not true. The wampa attack was planned from the beginning

  • Kyle Kasprenski
    Kyle Kasprenski 17 days ago

    I first watched Star wars when I was 4 or 5 I've loved it ever since

  • Ace Of Bricks
    Ace Of Bricks 17 days ago

    8 or 9

  • Robert Reid
    Robert Reid 17 days ago

    Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader so darth Vader is Luke's father

  • Crazy Crew
    Crazy Crew 19 days ago

    Fun fact: when Dark Vader says "No, I am your father." It actually means Dark Vader killed Luke's father not Dark Vader is Luke's father

  • Crazy Crew
    Crazy Crew 19 days ago +1

    Fun fact: Dark Vader actually said "No, I am your father." And not "Luke, I am your father."
    Mandela effect y'all!

  • Jessica Sabatini
    Jessica Sabatini 22 days ago

    9 at the youngest

  • Lane Landry
    Lane Landry 24 days ago

    4 to 8 years old

  • tintin studios
    tintin studios 28 days ago

    I watched my first movie at 7

  • ChocolateMilk Dog
    ChocolateMilk Dog 29 days ago


  • Justice Comics
    Justice Comics 29 days ago

    I saw my parents showed me Star Wars when I was like 4, so I sadly never experienced it like I wish I did, old enough to understand the story, and old enough to react and remember the plot points of the series. Definitely watch them in the order that they came out, and don’t start with the prequels

  • slightly weird penguin

    I first watched star wars when i was 7 i think and i thoight vader being lukes dad was mindblowing

  • Craig Barron
    Craig Barron Month ago

    Dude, You need to take a chill pill you're talking a mile a minute. Seriously though, I thought the idea that Anakin built C3PO is cool. And it makes sense, because in Empire, Boba Fett tries to shoot Chewie who has 3PO on his back. Vader stops him. The likely reason for this is because he remembered him and didn't want him to die. Granted, when the film was made, they didn't know that but it makes sense. If Vader was as evil as everyone says why would he care about a droid? Or for that matter Chewie? Because there was still good in him.

  • Ema Muhic
    Ema Muhic Month ago

    The age is 1 second of life

  • Mr 80's
    Mr 80's Month ago

    "You are not the father"

  • BuzzardRoost
    BuzzardRoost Month ago

    George Lucas deliberately tried to hide the fact the Luke’s father was Vader and wanted to make sure no one knew about it until the movie was out

  • The black goat of the woods

    Leia never owned R2-D2 and C-3PO.
    Their last "master" was captain Antillies

  • Matilda Kavanagh
    Matilda Kavanagh Month ago

    5 - 7

  • U P D O G G
    U P D O G G Month ago

    Anakin didn’t build c3po he found him and fixed him

  • musicbox193
    musicbox193 Month ago

    yet Vader means father

  • Magnaboss Prime
    Magnaboss Prime Month ago

    So my ideal age to watch episodes 2-8 (coming up on 9), clone wars movie and cartoon, and rebels would be between 7 and 10, episode one the age is never

  • Wormdog
    Wormdog Month ago

    6 yrs old

  • Liberty Bell1776
    Liberty Bell1776 Month ago

    But Obi-Wan was 1/2 right Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker where in a mental battle until Anakin overcame Darth Vader to save his son Luke, plus Anakin did not fulfill the Jedi prophecy Luke Skywalker did, it was about him Luke, not Anakin.

  • Joshua Stahl
    Joshua Stahl Month ago

    I first watched Star Wars when I was 2 or 3

  • Xander YTG
    Xander YTG Month ago


  • Rachel Leach
    Rachel Leach Month ago

    My son watched his first Star Wars movie at almost 2 months old. It was Rogue One.

  • Ramen_Noodlez
    Ramen_Noodlez Month ago

    I was 9 when I watched the first movie, but I say 10

  • Floyd Freeman
    Floyd Freeman Month ago

    It’s is good to watch Star Wars as soon as their born ( even The scene with an anakin killing younglings)

  • Simon Cooper
    Simon Cooper Month ago

    R2-D2 and C3PO WERE in every Star Wars movie, until Solo: A Star Wars story!

  • Kakashi Hatake
    Kakashi Hatake Month ago +3

    6:50 in the books it said that Obi Wan/Ben did remember R2-D2 he just wanted Luke to find out himself and R2-D2 played along

  • Khang Quach
    Khang Quach Month ago

    stop ruining star war

  • Color Yellow
    Color Yellow Month ago +6

    The only time Vader wasn't Luke's father was when Luke wasn't born

  • aycc-nbh72
    aycc-nbh72 Month ago

    Don't forget that the original script read, "Obi-Wan destroyed your father".

    ARCANUS 2 months ago

    The only reason Rey is so powerful is because she’s actually palpatine

    ARCANUS 2 months ago

    Rey isn’t exciting at all

  • Hello small world
    Hello small world 2 months ago +1

    Also originally Luke was originally a clone trying to destroy the Sith Lord darth Vader, and Han Solo was originally written in as a big green alien with 4 arms. And when I clicked on the video I was hoping you would add that in so if you could make another video about that that would be great. :)

  • Lunar Kin
    Lunar Kin 2 months ago

    Look for the interviews about his car accident

  • Lunar Kin
    Lunar Kin 2 months ago

    Sorry I keep on forgetting you guys exist

  • antwan1357
    antwan1357 2 months ago +1

    I would like to see Jar Jar return as the Leader of the First Order.

  • Salad Snek
    Salad Snek 2 months ago

    I was kinda hoping that the twist in Episode V was just made up on the spot, and they just went with it

  • Ninja Q TV
    Ninja Q TV 2 months ago

    Let Jays kid watch Star Wars when he's in between four years old and six years old

  • The Major
    The Major 2 months ago

    George Lucas said that the wampa scene wasn't added to cover Mark Hamill's scars, they were just ignoring the scars and planned on us chalking them up to Luke gaining experience.

  • Jacob Faul
    Jacob Faul 2 months ago

    I started watching the Star Wars movies at age 4

  • Brian Stabile
    Brian Stabile 2 months ago +1

    I think I know that Han Solo while Leah was kissing Luke they were related I think he knew that

  • RE _ WIND
    RE _ WIND 2 months ago

    5 6 maybe 7 years old

  • Amber Liebert
    Amber Liebert 2 months ago +1

    I was 4 when I watched. STAR WARS .I turning 34 next month

  • Eggs McJones
    Eggs McJones 2 months ago

    have your tiny human start watching starwars when he is six and a half

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    Car accident? You mean like a plane accident? Yeah, an 'accident' is just a secret way of saying, 'look, I refuse to let my actor worked in this movie unless my demands are met'.

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    The original plan is for R2-D2 took intentionally drain the Naboo Royal Starship's power, to power a shield to protect himself, while he is working to repair the hyperdrive. This of course left the ship defenseless, but it's to show that R2 had a strong will of self preservation. Even if it means…
    I think this scene existed in some versions of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace.
    An Astromech got shot, R2-D2 went into a panic, then he switched the ship's power supply to provide a strong enough shield to protect him and ONLY HIM. The ship operator discovered that their systems are down. However R2 managed to quickly repair the hyperdrive, so his method of sacrificing the others went unnoticed.

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    Han Solo's line, improvised or added later on? Frankly, with so much lies being spreaded. I think this is just a reasoning on why the script didn't had that line.
    That and I also think Han Solo was originally just meant to brutally roughen Greedo, so that the injured Greedo can complain to his employeer Jabba, that Han refused to pay.
    When the hangar scene was cut (and latter added back), they added the 'Han shoots first' scene to remove such loose end. Clean, short, dead Greedo. Unless he is capable of surviving from such blast. Which makes that scene looked like that Men in Black scene.

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    Leia kissed Luke out of her spite toward Han. The question is, are Han and Leia also related? Remember, in Episode V, it's also implied that Han is the other Skywalker mentioned by Obi-wan and Yoda.
    The plans were, for Anakin Skywalker to have multiple children from different mothers. But that doesn't go so well with the censorship, who are against polyamory, polygyny polygamy, and so on…
    And you know, Finn technically could still be Han Solo's son. The same goes for Ben Solo / Kylo Ren and Rey.
    Also Shmi's Skywalker family line was never fully explained. So Han and Leia could be… Gasp! Cousins!

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    Usually when the first movie is released, they already got plans for the sequel, or it even already has been partly finished. So Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back is already a real thing in the plans when Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope was released. Of course, the sequel could ended up being edited later on…
    The issue is when we got so many factions arguing with each other on what the final version should like, a fate had by Star Wars: The Force Awakens, Star Wars: The Last Jedi, and so on…
    Or maybe it is always that way. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace originally meant to have an Obi-wan age Anakin.

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago +1

    The issue is, the Skywalker family and their name might have been more common than what is currently shown in the movies. The Skywalker family might have been the successor of BOTH the Jedi and the Sith. It is even possible the Skywalker family got split into the Jedi and the Sith, and now are merging back together.
    Hence: "Revenge of the Jedi" → "Return of the Jedi" → "The Rise of Skywalker".
    Remember, Shmi Skywalker's past is…

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    In Episode IV, Obi-wan was planned to be Luke's father, and in Episode III, they almost went with such a plan. Of course in Episode V and VI, originally the Jedi Order were originally planned to be Ancient Clone Troopers.

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    Worst, in the original plan, Luke Skywalker is Kylo Ren / Rey's MOTHER. Remember, they are recycling the old 'Luke is a female who had a relationship with Han Solo' scripts. So they used their 'back-up', Leia Organa, and then removed Han. For all the stories are concerned, Luke is Ben's son, whom was named after his grandfather. What is this? Dragonball Z? Or Dune?
    #SecretSpaceProgram #disclosure #SSP
    Secret Space Program disclosure
    #TheFoundation #TF #MakeEmpireAgain

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    Obi-wan thought Luke was their last hope, because only a male Skywalker can do the job. Hence Han Solo, the secret OTHER male Skywalker (see 9:24). Yeah, a sexist comment by a couple of old guys.
    Think for a moment here, why is that Han's last name is "Solo"? Why is that his family are shrouded in mystery? Because… he is the other Skywalker.
    Even in his own movie, he refused to say his people's name. Or maybe secretly he is Javanese? I mean, Han, Solo. That is a name for an Orang Jawa!

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    9:24 I think that Han Solo and Luke Skywalker are originally meant to be brothers, but from different mothers, much like the original plans for Smoke Signals' Victor and Thomas. In many drafts and illustrations, you will see on how much resemblances 'Anakin Starkiller' had with Han Solo.
    Again. Due to forced monoamory and monogamy in the censorship. #LoveIsLove to them, except for…
    #SecretSpaceProgram #disclosure #SSP
    Secret Space Program disclosure
    #TheFoundation #TF #MakeEmpireAgain

  • Smartfren Andromax
    Smartfren Andromax 2 months ago

    How old to start watching a Star Wars movie? Try 8 years old, the same age Anakin Skywalker was in Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. Which first movie? Same one. Of course, Yoda thinks that is too old, and thinks 6 and younger are better. Then again, Yoda prefered to mold young minds into his own thinking.

  • Gummy Gaming
    Gummy Gaming 2 months ago

    This is the dumbest theory I’ve ever heard

  • Nathan Colley
    Nathan Colley 2 months ago +1

    I wish Han had said "I love me too."

  • Dalguy Garf
    Dalguy Garf 2 months ago

    Darth is Lukes dad, this guy said they were going to candle it, but the jar and thing doesent count

  • Romanv1999
    Romanv1999 2 months ago

    Leia: I love you
    Han: I know we made out like an hour ago

  • play game stuff
    play game stuff 2 months ago

    pak you

  • MinionBob BB-8
    MinionBob BB-8 2 months ago

    the Darth Vader plot twist was spoiled for me because I watched the prequels first.

  • Wyatt Dumas
    Wyatt Dumas 2 months ago

    I think you should first watch star wars at ages 8-11

  • Matilda Griffiths
    Matilda Griffiths 2 months ago

    I watched star wars at about 8

  • TheGamingKid
    TheGamingKid 2 months ago

    I disagree with darth jar jar because -clears throat- '*Always two, there are... No more... No less...*'

  • Totten Pitt
    Totten Pitt 2 months ago

    I love star wars and grew up watching the series

  • Ashley Platten
    Ashley Platten 2 months ago +1

    Id say at least 7

  • Charlie the Champion
    Charlie the Champion 2 months ago

    I say 5 to 8 to watch it no one should spoil it by then and you should be able to understand it

  • B Havens
    B Havens 2 months ago


  • trailer tastic
    trailer tastic 2 months ago

    I will tell not to watch it after toy story 2

  • Zink Hero of YouTube
    Zink Hero of YouTube 3 months ago

    Obi-Wan said he didn't remember owning a droid, and the book said he did know R2-D2, but decided not to mention it.

  • RebelCommander7 Star Wars kid

    I am rewatching this movie and I now realized that there not in solo easter egg how sad 😞

  • CJaydon Mayor
    CJaydon Mayor 3 months ago

    8 - 10 years old

  • Sgt. Peterson
    Sgt. Peterson 3 months ago

    I was so young when I saw the Star Wars movies that I don’t even remember what order I saw them in and the big twist didn’t seem like a twist to me because I already knew Vader was Luke’s father before I was old enough to understand what the reveal meant which kinda made the reveal seem like not that big a deal even to this day but I love Star Wars and will Always and I don’t think it’s to violent for kids except maybe Revenge of the Smith

  • Angela Skywalker
    Angela Skywalker 3 months ago

    All movies were planned

  • Angela Skywalker
    Angela Skywalker 3 months ago

    And it was

  • Angela Skywalker
    Angela Skywalker 3 months ago

    He forgot his line

  • Jaylen Torres
    Jaylen Torres 3 months ago

    6 years old

  • jb888888888
    jb888888888 3 months ago

    I was ten when I first saw _Star Wars_ and nothing was spoiled for me. But then I turned ten in the summer of 1977 so it's probably not the best measure.

  • jb888888888
    jb888888888 3 months ago +1

    6. Fan speculation. A tweet by the voiceover artist/Life Model isn't confirmation.
    5. Bull. There's a big closeup of Luke's face before he gets attacked.

    • J_ Crump
      J_ Crump 2 months ago

      They filmed the closeup after he healed from the wreck. They don’t always film chronologically lol

  • Mark Kroberger
    Mark Kroberger 3 months ago

    When you look at the story from the beginning, as in, when Lucas first did Episode Four. At the time (1977, before the movie hit theaters), Lucas didn't have a lot of confidence in his movie to be successful enough, and even made a bet with longtime friend/director Steven Spielberg on which movie would do better- Star Wars or Close Encounters Of The Third Kind (Lucas' bet was on Close Encounters). There wasn't a lot of details set for Luke's family history in 'A New Hope', just that Vader killed Luke's father. Of course, that all changed in 'Empire' (Vader reveals that he's Luke's father), and then 'another' change with 'Return Of The Jedi' (Leia is Luke's twin sister). Remember, in the original 1974 screenplay, the character name for Luke was "Luke Starkiller".

  • Silver Spider 101
    Silver Spider 101 3 months ago

    I don't remember a time where I Haden watched star wars, I have a photo from when I was 2 with a blue qui gon lightsaber so probably around then

  • daniels tar
    daniels tar 3 months ago

    8 years old

  • Amy Rosenberg
    Amy Rosenberg 3 months ago

    If Luke was kylo’s father, he would have had to have slept with his sister.

  • Spy Guy08
    Spy Guy08 3 months ago

    8 years old

  • Silverback 2205
    Silverback 2205 4 months ago +1

    This is a message from the future...
    Han Solo is Kylo Ren 's father!

  • The lew d show
    The lew d show 4 months ago

    watch it age 7 or 8

  • StrangerDanger
    StrangerDanger 4 months ago

    7 was when I watched a new hope so 7 is pretty good

  • Rose Thorne
    Rose Thorne 4 months ago

    I introduced my son to star wars when he was 4 years old...he is 19 and I am happy to say that if I messed everything else up in his life I got that one thing right. He has kept his facebook banner something Star wars related for almost a decade, and it is still his cinematic first love.

  • Nic bianco
    Nic bianco 4 months ago

    Very late responding to this video but Luke being Kylo Ren’s father does make sense. Because of Kylo’s real name being Ben. Ben is in them too closely related to obi-Wan Kenobi name on tatooine. And with how much JJ Abrams making episode seven look so much like a new Hope Luke being Kylo Ren’s dad makes perfect sense

  • Eleanor Ewald
    Eleanor Ewald 4 months ago

    I cried at the "Always" clip!

  • EE pro DUCKS!!!
    EE pro DUCKS!!! 4 months ago

    age 5-7

    IAMDUMBBOI :} 5 months ago

    I watched it when I was five and I understood

  • JOKKINGKING aka:tristan

    Probably at the age of 9 or 10. That is the age I started watching Star Wars and I understood it quite well!

  • Weston Brevik
    Weston Brevik 5 months ago

    I think age 5 or 6 that’s when I first watched

  • Aamina Green
    Aamina Green 5 months ago

    Six is a great age to watch Star Wars.