᚛ᚈᚑᚋ ᚄᚉᚑᚈᚈ᚜ and ᚛ᚑᚌᚐᚋ᚜

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  • Tom Scott
    Tom Scott  Month ago +1927

    An alternate title for this video was "The Space That Isn't A Space", but that's a bit more difficult to translate into Ogham. Thanks again to all the team at the British Museum!

    • Benjamin Philipp
      Benjamin Philipp 28 days ago +1

      The H is for the English romanisation, not included in the Ogham version "Ogam" ;P

    • needforsuv
      needforsuv Month ago

      you misspelled ogham, there is no H in the video title

    • Minerguy
      Minerguy Month ago

      Mine is a bunch of crossed out boxes

    • Rene Schickbauer
      Rene Schickbauer Month ago

      There are many fascinating things in Unicode. There is, for example, "Linear A", which has never been deciphered. So in Theory, we don't even know if or definitions and rules in Unicode are correct, because, well, we know a lot of the symbols (maybe not even all of them) but we don't know the language and if there are any special rules on how to combine characters/symbols to express a thought.

    • Anonymous User
      Anonymous User Month ago

      +999sian The TVclip app on Android shows it just fine for me

  • 20quid
    20quid Day ago

    I wonder if Ogham is the only language that is written in 3D as a feature, since it is typically written around a corner.

  • BerryMomma
    BerryMomma 14 days ago

    I really thought that the title is just a glitch but no I was wrong

  • James Marrs
    James Marrs 14 days ago

    These marking are on Petroglyph point in Northern California the Indians say sandy beard men wrote them and they are still there on this ancient island in tule lake now mostly drained .

  • jaketzou
    jaketzou 16 days ago

    ᚛ᚅᚔᚉᚓ᚜

  • ugh
    ugh 18 days ago

    And some characters that take up space but are invisible are not spaces - like the Braille dot pattern with no raised dots!

  • jan harald
    jan harald 20 days ago

    humm, that space is weird...not in the technical sense...
    just it has SLIIIGHT spaces next to it in some cases, like, literally 1 px...and stuff

  • Mr. Everything
    Mr. Everything 21 day ago

    Same

  • Bob England
    Bob England 22 days ago

    Unicode is the problem it should be in 2 dimensions rather than 1

  • Dracarmen Winterspring
    Dracarmen Winterspring 22 days ago +1

    Sounds like how underlined text in formatted text includes lines under the spaces between words in the section it underlines. Except encoded into the unformatted form of text.

  • robert shellfoon
    robert shellfoon 27 days ago

    Keep it up buddy as long as Ogham doesn't lie like poli... fucken... titions.

  • Mechafinch Personal
    Mechafinch Personal 29 days ago +1

    The title text reminds me of Artifexian

  • Free
    Free Month ago +1

    Headache

  • Jeff Hearn
    Jeff Hearn Month ago

    Thought the picture was a close up of a kebab, maybe I’m too hungry.

  • Mike O'Barr
    Mike O'Barr Month ago

    Your quest for obscure and trivial trivia has uncovered so many gems such as this rule on spaces. Thank you Mr Scott.

  • ユーネポ / Yuunepo

    imagine if Irish was still written like that

  • Laure D.
    Laure D. Month ago

    I remember seeing one like this in Cork's University in Ireland :)

  • dank memes
    dank memes Month ago

    what about l li ll l_

  • GOGOgomes
    GOGOgomes Month ago

    For those who dind't understand the title is "space" and "space".

  • Nicolino Will
    Nicolino Will Month ago

    A space is a space. You can't say it's not.

  • TechJockeyHD
    TechJockeyHD Month ago

    ONE TAKE KING IS BACK AGAIN!

  • sophr0
    sophr0 Month ago

    The title says "TOM SKOTT and OGAM".

  • Jayden Lawson
    Jayden Lawson Month ago

    I was just searching Google for ᚛ᚈᚑᚋ ᚄᚉᚑᚈᚈ᚜ and found your video

  • Sam Robinson
    Sam Robinson Month ago

    Is ThIs LoSs

  • Umberto Fournier
    Umberto Fournier Month ago

    Fascinating

  • Mexie Mex
    Mexie Mex Month ago

    From the video thumbnail, I thought Tom was in a kebab shop ;^/

  • The Commenter
    The Commenter Month ago

    pornography and sperms

  • Xenozam
    Xenozam Month ago

    I thought the title was a reference to Artifexian...

  • Joe Siu
    Joe Siu Month ago

    now i can read the title

  • WillTheOtherOne
    WillTheOtherOne Month ago

    I made my own alphabet using a line like that once.... weird

  • mekkanizer
    mekkanizer Month ago

    Fascinating stuff, Tom

  • Nighthawk
    Nighthawk Month ago

    it's not "a space that is not a space", it is "a word separation symbol"
    OUR symbol, just happens to be blank.

  • KooriShukuen
    KooriShukuen Month ago

    The "Paraŀlel" Station thing is a bit different. The Catalan language differentiates "ll", which is pronounced like English "ly", from "ŀl", which is two plain L sounds in a row, a _geminated_ sound. like doubled letters in Italian, or in some pronunciations of the Ks in English "bookkeeper" (and also the Bs in "subbookkeeper" ;3 ).

  • StarkRG
    StarkRG Month ago

    When is a space not a space? When it's ajar.
    No, wait...

  • Frank Harr
    Frank Harr Month ago

    I think they made the most reasonable possible decision.

  • LITTLΣ ҒΔZΣ
    LITTLΣ ҒΔZΣ Month ago

    Tell me please we’re you got that cool title text

  • Martin Gardner
    Martin Gardner Month ago

    I mean, kinda. This is more about the modern transcription than the original Irish.

  • Matchrocket
    Matchrocket Month ago

    I tried, Google Translate didn't know what to do with it.

  • War Ninja
    War Ninja Month ago

    Sometimes the title works. Sometimes it doesn't.

  • SuicideBunny6
    SuicideBunny6 Month ago +1

    I'm too lazy to look up what the Ogham alphabet is like so ... What does the title say??

    • mnikhk
      mnikhk Month ago +1

      SuicideBunny6 Tom Ogham(name of the ancient language/people)

  • Nooby Noob
    Nooby Noob Month ago

    looks like it says;
    FANONI MAQUIRINI

  • AntonioKowatsch
    AntonioKowatsch Month ago +3

    I feel like a mega-nerd because I already knew everything about Ogham.
    I learned about it when I was in 8th grade. Ever since I read The Hobbit I became obsessed with ancient languages and writing systems. I am also affiliated with one of the oldest Irish clans. So far I mastered cuneiform, all the runic alphabets (even fictional ones like Tolkien's dwarf runes), Ogham, and Ge'ez.

    • Constant Chaos
      Constant Chaos Month ago

      +AntonioKowatsch eh, not really, the language Center of my brain is a bit wierd so actually speaking any one language us hard for me, I ki da get them mixed up (even my English and Russian or whatever) I pushed myself too hard and dammages it (I was prideful and tried for like16 at one point and Vietnamese really messed me up)

    • AntonioKowatsch
      AntonioKowatsch Month ago

      Wow, that's really impressive.

    • Constant Chaos
      Constant Chaos Month ago +1

      I speak Irish and Welsh and can read Ogham and the elder futhark so same (I am also half decent with the various arcane and angelic scripts like enochian and passing the river)

  • JohnnyDaPrankstaGangsta

    Why is this green screened edited with images of the stone and alternate views that are also images of the stone.

  • 12Me21
    12Me21 Month ago

    So they can add new type of space to support a language that hasn't been used in thousands of years, and yet there still isn't a way to get good looking underlines...

  • Wouter Cloetens
    Wouter Cloetens Month ago

    Not empty space; the final frontier.
    These are the voyages of the space characters in Unicode.
    Its multi-byte mission: to explore strange languages.
    To seek out new diacritical marks and new emojis.
    To boldly and italically grow to where no code table has grown before!

    • AlphaCore
      AlphaCore Month ago

      Applause to you, good sir!

  • Shit, I Missed.
    Shit, I Missed. Month ago

    Isn't the line just a marker to define the position of the corner? The line itself isn't part of the language. I̲n̲ ̲E̲n̲g̲l̲i̲s̲h̲,̲ ̲i̲f̲ ̲y̲o̲u̲ ̲h̲a̲v̲e̲ ̲a̲ ̲s̲e̲n̲t̲e̲n̲c̲e̲ ̲t̲h̲a̲t̲ ̲i̲s̲ ̲u̲n̲d̲e̲r̲l̲i̲n̲e̲d̲,̲ ̲t̲h̲e̲ ̲s̲p̲a̲c̲e̲s̲ ̲h̲a̲v̲e̲ ̲a̲ ̲l̲i̲n̲e̲,̲ ̲n̲o̲?

  • reggy .bo
    reggy .bo Month ago

    But surely the space isn't a space with a line through it but a terminating hyphen right?

  • Janell Williams
    Janell Williams Month ago

    Well, I guess the Oggs HAVE been in this part of Lancre for a long time...

  • Ben Hood
    Ben Hood Month ago

    I still � Unicode!

  • xzonia1
    xzonia1 Month ago

    This was something I did not know! :)

  • Ricky Johnson
    Ricky Johnson Month ago

    This video feels like a miscalculation. You made mundane observation about an otherwise interesting topic. Do you think I won't stick around for longer than 4 minutes? Have some faith that the material you're presenting is actually interesting.

  • Jock McBile
    Jock McBile Month ago

    Tom, do you have Benjamin Button disease, or what?

  • mart9125
    mart9125 Month ago

    Tom Scott and.. Ogam?

  • Sean Vosler
    Sean Vosler Month ago

    ᚌᚐᚈᚈᚐᚌᚂᚐᚅ

  • 0MindSwept0
    0MindSwept0 Month ago

    What does the title actually say tho? o.0

  • ccityplanner12 :
    ccityplanner12 : Month ago +1

    Tom Scott and Ogham

  • MultiPaulinator
    MultiPaulinator Month ago

    I'm kinda surprised Android supported those code points.

  • iCQ
    iCQ Month ago

    *hellooo everybody* 😀😊😎😚😍😙🤗🤩😘😅 _another great_ video, thanks!

  • JackhammerJesus
    JackhammerJesus Month ago

    "A space does not have to be a space!"
    This is especially interesting when you compare it to buddhist concepts of "space" and "emptiness". A space, the way we use it, IS something- it is a break, it creates order in the letters.
    In Zen buddhism Mu describes the empty space, which is itself NOT part of the text, but the foundation (the empty paper) on which text can happen.
    So it makes a huge difference if you have a text that is silent or if you just don't have any text. It was so important that people even used to write "This space was left empty on purpose" in books.
    tldr; I want the interpunct back.

  • Mikibish
    Mikibish Month ago

    Nice. Recently I've been looking into Galifreyan writing for a bit of fun, no official language but there is a fan made one. After watching this I feel like they may have borrowed from Ogham, it seems quite similar but using circles instead of lines.

  • 47997137x
    47997137x Month ago

    I don't understand why you stopped ending these videos with "...and that's something you might not have known." I loved that tagline.

  • Generic Internetter

    So this whole video is just about an obscure language that uses a line for a space character. Okay, thanks.

  • Father Kritzmas
    Father Kritzmas Month ago

    i didnt understand any of this but i enjoyed it anyway thanks

  • Mihai Lazar
    Mihai Lazar Month ago

    Feynman diagrams ?

  • Reed Hedges
    Reed Hedges Month ago

    Anyone have a link to a video or article that explains Ogham?

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  • Josh Gosh
    Josh Gosh Month ago

    -at least spaces are always empty in english-

  • TimGaming88
    TimGaming88 Month ago

    Crossed out boxes and more crossed boxes is what the title is for me

  • sion8
    sion8 Month ago

    I was able to see the writing on my Xbox ONE, but not on the app on my Android tablet.😅

  • azgarogly
    azgarogly Month ago

    The very idea that divider between words has inevitably to be a blank are on a page seems to be weird to me. It can be anything, like special character or random ornament or whatever.
    Furthermore, that line in the script mentioned looks more like a carrier line, not part of a symbols. Like five lines of a musical notation are. Would you break the musical staff to denote rests?

  • Greg Smith
    Greg Smith Month ago

    I saw this script on time team years ago and couldn't for the life of me remember what it was called! Thank you so much!

  • Mentalink
    Mentalink Month ago

    One take! ;)

  • Qiancheng Fu
    Qiancheng Fu Month ago

    I thought Tom was standing next to a big slab of brownies in the thumbnail

  • cros107
    cros107 Month ago

    >There's been some argument about it in one of the mailing lists for linguists and computer science nerd
    >mailing list
    >2018

  • Jason Andreoli
    Jason Andreoli Month ago

    Your thumbnail looks like a donor kebab. Now I'm hungry.

  • Alien Platypus
    Alien Platypus Month ago

    I looked at this stone and wondered about it last weekend when I visited the British Museum. I didn’t guess it’s script was so important to a subject I love so much.

  • omgsolikevalleygirl

    they probably contain the answer to life, the universe and everything only nobody knows what the exact question was nor how to exactly read the symbols

  • Justin Chapman
    Justin Chapman Month ago

    pure semantics, if a space is a space because it is empty then it is not a space. It is a marker that a word has finished!

  • Thefreakyfreek
    Thefreakyfreek Month ago

    my phone doesn't suports it

  • Dat Boi
    Dat Boi Month ago

    ***looks at title***
    Me: is this loss?

  • 200odd300
    200odd300 Month ago

    Im on the android youtube app and the title is blank squares and blank squares

  • Franklin&Tangelo 345

    ᏣᏔᎩ

  • jorge eleazar Castro

    remember when you tried to erase your fingerprints with pineapples 9 years ago? I do. I watched it two or three years ago.

  • Whatzit Tuuyah
    Whatzit Tuuyah Month ago

    more like "Things You Certainly Don't Know"

  • fikluk
    fikluk Month ago

    kdkd

  • Bobby Patton
    Bobby Patton Month ago

    Title should be "things you most certainly do not know"

  • Kelly Macbeth
    Kelly Macbeth Month ago

    It reminds me of underlining. There’s a line under the space, and a line break removes the space and the line beneath it.

  • SpudHead
    SpudHead Month ago

    Different languages are stupid, we should all speak the same one. I vote for German.

  • Fake Name
    Fake Name Month ago

    Love these videos. Everyone is better and this level of production is just unseen on youtube. Another great one Tom well done . :)

  • XRekts
    XRekts Month ago

    you spelled ogham wrong on your inscription, it spelled ogam not ogham

  • Keith Klassen
    Keith Klassen Month ago

    Why is sweet jeezly heck is it worth anyone's time to make this alphabet into Unicode? Is it in modern usage?

  • Tinfoilpain
    Tinfoilpain Month ago

    space that is also a line: spline.

  • Alexis Auld
    Alexis Auld Month ago

    Great, now let's use this script to calculate electrical resistance!

  • Richard Pike
    Richard Pike Month ago

    I didnt know Unicode even could support this kind of language (actually I didnt even know this language existed)

  • Coltsnid
    Coltsnid Month ago

    what_about_underscores?

  • Galileo Rocha Cuevas

    I didn’t know you could write Ogham like that!

  • Legoivan44321
    Legoivan44321 Month ago

    Very nice title boi
    No Unicode boi

  • Nyrin Triball
    Nyrin Triball Month ago

    Tom Scott, that Irish contingent that had a strong opinion, is there a video of the various debates that occurred? Or one, if only one happened.

  • CopyBunny
    CopyBunny Month ago

    How do you search this though?

  • LochNess 96
    LochNess 96 Month ago

    Ireland is an incredible place with a great history and Mythology!