Will Terminator: Dark Fate Reinvigorate the Franchise?

  • Published on Jul 3, 2019
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  • jesus Enriquez
    jesus Enriquez 2 months ago

    Is this Charlie’s angels with robots? Oh it’s not and John Connor is not in it good job on killing it even more

  • Thrillhausen Alt
    Thrillhausen Alt 2 months ago


  • Michael Anderson
    Michael Anderson 2 months ago

    No, The WOKE marketing isn't helping and the trailers looked pretty bad.

  • devils rejects
    devils rejects 2 months ago

    if I was on fence of this movie before now im done with it after hearin that tim miller attaked fans and let it be known its a woke film

  • Rick Boy
    Rick Boy 2 months ago +1

    According to Tim Miller, if you don't like it your just a misogynist pig. You know, I was disappointing by the last 3 sequels... it better be good. I want to stress, I actually loved the TV show... The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

  • navylaks2
    navylaks2 2 months ago

    To quote Arnold in T2 to John Connor: " It Has To End Here "

  • death bystereo
    death bystereo 2 months ago

    This needed to be a dark movie not another transformers

  • Balthazar M.
    Balthazar M. 2 months ago +1

    Is Roxy clueless on purpose? Is she always asking questions for the audience? she always needs to be caught up on things, or derails the conversation

  • Akson Entertainment
    Akson Entertainment 2 months ago

    I honestly just want them to do a movie that is actually based on the war and end it in a movie or two. Im just tired of the same time travel crap over and over again of you must be protected to save the future. I loved T1 and T2 and after that I would say Salvation was a good one mainly because it was the beginning of the war and it had potential to be even better on a sequel but they scrapped it for Genesis yet another time travel movie, although it changed a few things to keep me interested but now I see they changed the story yet again with this one now doing the whole you must be protected for our future again....Oh brother....Im still curious about it so I cant really say it will suck just by seeing one trailer so we’ll see

  • X X
    X X 2 months ago


  • Daniel is here
    Daniel is here 2 months ago

    Effects look worst than 2nd one from 90s. Too much bad CGI

  • random dude
    random dude 2 months ago

    new stories please, i think everyone is just sick of sequels and remakes. They have tried so hard to bring back a lot of franchises from the 80s and 90s and nothing has worked. We need new ideas and stories my god. every horror remake failed, all the rebooted action franchises failed, predator failed, alien failed, ghostbusters failed, star wars failed. Disney live action remakes are all horrible.

  • James Thomas
    James Thomas 2 months ago

    Seriously at this point in a franchise this damaged I feel like we need to see the film before we can even ruminate this question

  • DarksaintCJ
    DarksaintCJ 2 months ago

    They need to go back to the first 2. It doesn't look like they've done that. It still action focused and fast scenes. Terminator isn't about that, it was filled with drawn out scenes with dread and suspense

  • Lord Zander’s Soap Box
    Lord Zander’s Soap Box 2 months ago +3

    This movie will kill the Terminator film series. It’s Terminator: SJW Dark 💩

  • Arcade Alchemist
    Arcade Alchemist 2 months ago

    No. Pog

  • Den Dan
    Den Dan 2 months ago

    If the want to rejuvenate Terminator they can't just find a warehouse, paint it green and film the entire movie. Just look at T2, compare the Truck Bike scene with this new chase scene.

  • Scott Prazak
    Scott Prazak 2 months ago

    Nope. This was PERFECTLY finished with T2. When a steak is cooked just right, you don’t make it better by cooking it more. I don’t care that Linda Hamilton’s back. I don’t care that Arnold’s back. If the last three attempts failed, cut your losses and move on. It’s got nothing to do with the story. If they truly respect it, they’ll walk away. This is only meant to pull in more $ by giving people something they’re familiar with.

    • Michael Anderson
      Michael Anderson 2 months ago

      I agree and I think this will most likely flop which will finally end the franchise. It should've ended in 1991.

  • FraserLyleKerr
    FraserLyleKerr 2 months ago

    Do you mean will a non gender female lead the franchise into the eggshell?

  • Sean Mcquillan
    Sean Mcquillan 2 months ago

    T1 & T2 is all you need (and I’m including the forthcoming film)! Some franchises just need leaving alone!

  • the_boon
    the_boon 2 months ago

    TDF will probably be underwhelming. I bet there won't be memorable music, too much CGI instead of practical effects, a very underwhelming actor for the evil Terminator, and Arnold just looks too old to play a T-800 again.
    And don't get me started on this "hybrid Feminator"

  • Brandon Ram
    Brandon Ram 2 months ago +1

    To be honest I'd rather see a story about a young Miles Bennet Dyson. Im not sure how it would play out. Maybe because of alternate timelines or his grandson being bright and picking up where granddad left off. Shit...I wouldnt mind a story where theres a rampaging terminator and hes pursuing it instead of it pursuing him. Kinda trying to find answers while it goes about on whatever mission skynet sent it on to secure the future for the A.I.
    Just please...no more buddy T-800's fighting super advanced Terminators for the love of god.

    • Brandon Ram
      Brandon Ram 2 months ago +1

      @Reg Clinton Brown I...I...have nightmares about it sometimes...😱😆

    • Reg Clinton Brown
      Reg Clinton Brown 2 months ago +1

      @Brandon Ram Miles Dyson was alive again in Genysis? Damn I need to rewatch it cuz that movie was forgettable lol

    • Brandon Ram
      Brandon Ram 2 months ago +1

      @Reg Clinton Brown They included a moment in Terminator Genisys where John Connor was celebrating the arrival of Genisys with Miles and his son I believe

    • Reg Clinton Brown
      Reg Clinton Brown 2 months ago +1

      Or about Dyson's Son who was shown in T2... was that done already in the last ones?

  • petersaturday
    petersaturday 2 months ago

    It's going to be FLOP. Should have whipped Edward Furlong back in shape and based it around him and Sarah, slowly working in the new characters...otherwise this looks like another forgettable big Hollywood cash grab rather than a compelling sequel to T2.

  • Chase McAndrew
    Chase McAndrew 2 months ago +1

    After his endorsement of Genisys, I can’t take Cameron’s word seriously anymore. This movie has the same look and feel of Genisys also, I’ll see it, but I’m pretty sure it’ll suck to high heaven!

  • Thanos43 Infinity
    Thanos43 Infinity 2 months ago

    Atleast try to make the new Terminator look somewhat female...not Brandon Teena from Boys Dont Cry :-/

  • jsonic
    jsonic 2 months ago +1

    No. It won't.

  • Logic
    Logic 2 months ago

    Quick answer no. Arnold and stallone are trying to hold on to old characters to stay relevant.

  • Jeremy Woods
    Jeremy Woods 2 months ago

    Short answer... no. It will be riddled with modernized action ala Fast & Furious. Over the top shit. Nothing truly compelling or original. Riddled with cheese. It will be a heavy handed CGI fest. Reviews will say it’s the best one since T2. Rotten tomatoes around 40-50%.

  • Chris Michael
    Chris Michael 2 months ago +2

    Terminator: Dark Fate is politically fueled feminist propaganda. Did you watch the trailer?

    • Jarvbs Jones
      Jarvbs Jones 2 months ago +2

      terminator was always centered around a strong woman. get over it virgin

  • Forte_25s
    Forte_25s 2 months ago

    Dude I can’t believe you had a hissy fit over not getting an invite to the Star Wars attraction down in universal. For the dude who was basically handed a good life

  • ZiplineShazam
    ZiplineShazam 2 months ago

    Please Let this tired old worn out story die !!!!!

  • Sonny Andreotte
    Sonny Andreotte 2 months ago


  • Tommy DeVito
    Tommy DeVito 2 months ago

    This new terminator movie stinks so badly it could knock a buzzard off a shit wagon

  • Ant Francis
    Ant Francis 2 months ago +1

    Channel 5 film that will be on tv every other week on a Friday night in 3 years time.
    (I don't know what the channel 5 equivalent is in the u.s is, I but u get my drift)

  • apocalypsepow
    apocalypsepow 2 months ago


  • greene74
    greene74 2 months ago +3

    Not that many people care about this franchise anymore, it died after T2.

  • andrew seed
    andrew seed 2 months ago

    The only thing to save this franchise is either this movie being a hit or do something like the dark Knight trilogy. Terminator begins as the first one showing the original timeline the ideas for skynet and so on.

  • Adam Russell
    Adam Russell 2 months ago

    Your Arnold was spot on homie loved it

  • Mike Brown
    Mike Brown 2 months ago

    I'm a big fan of the new lesbian terminator. I'm a democrat and I hate white people because of slavery. I blame white people for what their ancestors did even tho most white people's ancestors didn't own black slaves in America. CNN tells me white people are racist. This new Terminator movie is going to show the racism, sexism, and homophobia of the Republican Party. Yeah, I love being a Democrat. I'm such an alpha male. I stand up for those weaklings that can't stand up for themselves.

  • Edward Grunder
    Edward Grunder 2 months ago +1

    SJWs take on T2 ..

  • Ewolf5150
    Ewolf5150 2 months ago


  • Sean Wade
    Sean Wade 2 months ago +10

    The truth about the Terminator Series is that T2 ended it, and because of that any attempt at a sequel feels forced. The only story worth telling is the night Skynet was beaten. Which would be a prequel that is also a sequel, but isn’t because of T2.

  • Adriel Omar Díaz
    Adriel Omar Díaz 2 months ago +1

    listen up bro the only terminator in my life is T2 rest is parking

    • Michael Anderson
      Michael Anderson 2 months ago

      @Mike Brown I also love the first 2 but T1 is one of the all time great science fiction movies.

    • Mike Brown
      Mike Brown 2 months ago

      Why do people dis the first movie all the time? It's the only time that I can remember Arnold playing a bad guy and he was pretty intimidating. I prefer t1 over t2. And I love both films.

  • Nabeel Ahmed
    Nabeel Ahmed 2 months ago

    This movie is destined to flop hard.

  • Chael Sonnen
    Chael Sonnen 2 months ago +2

    Terminator franchise is dead. It all ended when Eddie lowered Arnold into the metal.

  • BikeStuff
    BikeStuff 2 months ago

    hell no, the plot was leaked and confirmed via independant sources. john dies at the beach, skynet is defeated, a new AI called Legion rises, terminators are now called REV's. linda finds out the t800 never melted in the steel mill, and its been protecting her since the gpu reset they did in t2. the fembot is a female version of marcus wright

    • DanV900
      DanV900 2 months ago

      BikeStuff It’s a different terminator sent back in time where Skynet’s final fail safe plan was to send as many as possible back in time. One succeeds in killing John to start the movie.

  • Draven Lee
    Draven Lee 2 months ago +3

    T2 was pretty much the only real blockbuster while T1 was a cult sci-fi/horror movie. Ever since T2, Hollywood has been trying to reclaim that magic and it has never worked. I think everyone is in love with the ideas of Terminator but the story has already been told. Unless you just want to do a low budget throwback movie for T1 fans which would be different, I don't think anyone is interested.

    • Michael Anderson
      Michael Anderson 2 months ago

      T2 was the perfect ending and not every franchise needs 23 movies or whatever like the MCU. This movie looks terrible and will probably be the final nail in the coffin for this franchise.

  • Savage 1
    Savage 1 2 months ago

    No! It's gonna 💣

  • Ionization2020
    Ionization2020 2 months ago +1

    Just realizing that Roxy looks just like Jenna Marbles

  • Jason Thompson
    Jason Thompson 2 months ago

    All they have to do is make a FUN film!! The trailer sucked, but I saw that town hall with Miller & Cameron and their enthusiasm convinced me to take a chance on it. I agree, though, Cameron did give the last Terminator a thumbs up which makes me think he's losing it. But he is James Cameron!! So fingers crossed.

  • Aby Yesudasan
    Aby Yesudasan 2 months ago +5

    Mark my words.
    This is going to be what last years Predator was to the predator series.

    • Aby Yesudasan
      Aby Yesudasan 2 months ago

      @XRJ92 so do i

    • XRJ92
      XRJ92 2 months ago

      I'd love for you to be wrong, but I won't hold all my breath.

    • Bio-Media
      Bio-Media 2 months ago

      i guess the bullshit worked on you huh... Cameron's name was just placed there as a tertiary director to get casual morons excited. He called tim miller a nazi and they have terrible chemistry.

  • Southern Stacker
    Southern Stacker 2 months ago +1

    Didnt even watch the video to know the answer is NO

  • Brent Baker
    Brent Baker 2 months ago

    There is no skynet anymore. This one is a future corporation.

  • I'll be the one
    I'll be the one 2 months ago +2

    So you have concerns about Terminator but none about Star Wars?

    • Michael Anderson
      Michael Anderson 2 months ago

      I think both franchises have become s@it but Star Wars has had 3 movies from the past 4 years join the billion dollar club. Terminator has to have a financial win with this movie or the franchise is dead.

  • Supervoid Cinema
    Supervoid Cinema 2 months ago +1

    I'd watch a 'RoboCop Vs Terminator' movie although RoboCop might be a little outgunned.

  • Clementine_Lucille
    Clementine_Lucille 2 months ago +1

    They should bring back Brad Fiedel but apparently he’s retired.

  • NateIsCorrupt
    NateIsCorrupt 2 months ago

    I would like to see John Conner in the future war style movie similar to the war scenes from T1 & T2.

  • backroom12
    backroom12 2 months ago +4

    This movie will kill the franchise . Feminator will flop . Trailer looked absolutely terrible .

    • Windso
      Windso 2 months ago

      Really? So all the male movies that flop because they're malelinators?

  • wayne goodger
    wayne goodger 2 months ago

    Skynet lost. New enemies emerge. Can't wait for this new twist.

  • Mike Jackson
    Mike Jackson 2 months ago +1

    Seriously? Nah, it's not. And the female lead angle and getting rid of john connor is obvious af. All the dudes are bad guys again awesom. come up with new material Hollywood. Stop making fan favorite franchises woke because you're too shallow enough to create a solid movie with depth.