Giant Robots & Power Suits

  • Published on Apr 18, 2019
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    Giant Robots, or Mecha, in films and comic books fascinate audiences, but are usually considered impractical even with improved technology in the future. Today we'll look at them and concepts like power armor and exoskeletons and see if such suits might have a practical role in warfare or uses other than combat.
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    Giant Robots & Power Suits
    Episode 182, Season 5 E16
    Written by:
    Isaac Arthur
    Darius Said
    Jerry Guern
    Keith Blockus
    Matthew Campbell
    Phonetic Failure
    Cover Art:
    Jakub Grygier
    Graphics by:
    Jeremy Jozwik
    Mike Munt of Apogii
    Produced & Narrated by
    Isaac Arthur
    Music Manager
    Luca DeRosa -
    Paradox Interactive, "The Titan"
    Marcus Junnikkala, "A Fleet Behind The Moon"
    Sergey Cheremisinov, "New Worlds"
    Stellardrone, "Journey To The Sun"
    Marcus Warner, "Emergency Protocol"
    Paradox Interactive, "The Last Stand"
    Ender Guney, "Big Gun Epic Cinematic"
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  • Isaac Arthur
    Isaac Arthur  Month ago +22

    Here's the interview with SciFi Shenanigans mentioned at the end of the vid:

    • firefox5926
      firefox5926 2 days ago

      17:54 it also brings up another point when you have android bullet proof body's ... you are effective compared to a human ... super man and at that point you don't even need to worry about getting she .. and walking up to people and shooting is is a bit excessive when you would with little extra danger just tackle them and physically restrain them

    • mutehowl
      mutehowl 2 days ago

      Giant robots are always practical. >.> putting big guns on them just makes them cool.

    • SecondSein
      SecondSein 12 days ago

      +Lane Reynolds good question. First, the term 'giant' varies. Titanfall and Code Geass uses mechas of around 5-8m but they are still considered to be 'giant' (even though when compared to the famous standard of Gundam's 20m tall MS, they are tiny) in their universe. And that is actually correct. Their size still make them stand tall and stand out on the battlefield against other military units, especially tanks. The size is also just half of the issue really. Even if you make the mecha 4-8m, people would still argue that it isn't an efficient warmachine due to its complicated mechanics ie using two legs instead of tank treads, seperated weapon systems and much more.
      Second, the smaller size has its advantages and disadvantages. The advantages is as you mentioned, can be used for scouts and better in urban environment. Heck Titanfall and Code Geass, especially the latter are perfect example of giant mechas used for urban Battle. They are also good for limiting collateral damage due to their smaller weapon size limits their firepower.
      The disadvantage is that their small size limits their firepower and it reduces their effectiveness against beefier targets, if there are any. Example, a Titan while effective against most ground targets, would have hard time when pitted against spaceships. Meanwhile the larger sized mecha affords them larger weapons that makes them better at fighting spaceships. The thing is, due to the outmost importance of winning space battles as opposed to planetary battles, it is likely that the 20m mecha will become standard instead of the smaller ones and would even see use on planets.
      Yes, the 20m would be a walking target, yada yada yada, but ultimately it won't matter as long as the giant mecha does its job of winning by doing massive damage. The 20m often carry warship grade weapon that could demolish most ground units and enemy infrastructure easily. As such, once the 20m variant becomes standard, it is hard to justify the use of 4-8m mecha for anything other than scouting and infrastructure security (such as inside large building, space colony and ship complex) in places where the 20m can't come in.
      However, this depends on the setting of the story as the setting sets the size. It all boils down to whether or not they have space warfare whose main engagement would be against spaceships. Most that use 4-8m doesn't engage in space warfare with their mechas. Code Geass doesn't have interplanetary warfare and their mechas are often pitted against each other and not against ships. Titanfall, while they have interstellar warfare, only have the Titans used in planetary battles. If you only have 4-8m mechas, against ships, the solution is other ships. But, if you have larger mechas, then they would be viable against ships.
      As such, it depends. If we are still stuck on earth, the 4-8m mechas are the best choice. However, once we have interplanetary'd want to go BIG.

    • Lane Reynolds
      Lane Reynolds 12 days ago

      So instead of a giant Mecha... Why not smaller Mecha? Not power armor, bigger, probably around five meters, to carry big guns, but not big enough to be a massive target and wouldn't be terribly limited in urban and industrial environs. And can be a forward observer since it's piloted as well.

  • jeova0sanctus0unus
    jeova0sanctus0unus 20 hours ago

    first rule of warfare:
    The indexing system for the rules of warfare is broken and needs debugging.

  • SteveAkaGoatpile
    SteveAkaGoatpile 2 days ago

    to this day I hold the design of the spider tanks and Tachikomas of Ghost in the shell to be the best implementation of Mecha in anything. stable four to six legs, wheels or tracks on the legs to move rapidly on roads, low slung stable platform to mount weapons on.

  • firefox5926
    firefox5926 2 days ago

    5:21 the difference being that one is absorbing that energy over the area of the buttocks and or cheek with it then be dissipated via the entire muscle mass of the body as it works to slow the torso etc and return it to the pre firing position and on the other end .. buy what ever the surface area a 5.56mm diameter circle has

  • firefox5926
    firefox5926 2 days ago

    4:26 an tank .. which are basically a tortoise formation of Armour plates but with better mobility

  • CatholicDragoon
    CatholicDragoon 3 days ago +1

    23:54 Isaac Arthur not only gives you a reason for Gundams to exist in the future, but why kids would be piloting them as well.

  • ℛɛᴛʀᴏ ℛɛᴅ

    Giant robots are too damn giant. They're easy targets.

  • Christian Cuneo
    Christian Cuneo 3 days ago


  • Stevius Maximus
    Stevius Maximus 3 days ago

    I love your videos! Have you read Pierce Brown’s Red Rising series?

  • Kev G
    Kev G 4 days ago

    the limbs are a big disadvantage. One of the best things about a tank, or artillery for that matter, is that it a streamlined weapon. The whole structure is a weapon. The human form has a bunch of "floating parts" that serve no immediate weaponized purpose other than close combat, which can be better applied under a different form (a four legged form, for example, with the " floating parts" extending slightly under the main body is better). the large humanoid mecharmor takes all the weaknesses of the human form and amplifies them, take out one leg and the giant robot has to fly or crash, take out an arm and the damage potential is apparently halved.... it's a poor idea unless it's form fitting to increase body protection...

  • TheMegaOne1000
    TheMegaOne1000 6 days ago

    Arthur talking about 40K brings limitless amounts of joy to my hearth.

  • Night Shade
    Night Shade 6 days ago

    So power armor does make sense if the portable energy problem is solved. I'll take it!

  • Elder Moose
    Elder Moose 6 days ago

    Funny was directed here from Gundam NT, and damn was that one of the best TVclip recommendations ever. Glad i found your channel. Though are you named Issac Arthur as a pseudonym that's similar to Issac Asimov or were you just fortunate enough to have a similar sounding name?

    Edit: you have alot of "first" rules of warfare

    • Patrick Kenyon
      Patrick Kenyon 4 days ago

      I think he chose the name as an homage to Isaac Asimov and Arthur C. Clarke.

  • Donavan Dufault
    Donavan Dufault 7 days ago

    Mister Arthur, I love your videos, but I grew up on Transformers, Macross and Battletech, and will love big bots until the day I die, and I WILL write giant robot fiction! Kudos on mentioning Micheal Stackpole.

  • Sophrosynicle
    Sophrosynicle 7 days ago

    I know Legends of Dune aren't the fan's favorites, but I really enjoyed the Cymeks (brains in big animalistic/insectoid robot bodies).

  • Dale Martin
    Dale Martin 8 days ago

    Exo-skelitons like the ODST armor would be cool.

  • Dale Martin
    Dale Martin 8 days ago

    U.N. Spacy wants you!

  • DavionistVano
    DavionistVano 8 days ago

    Hi from a Battletech fan from Russia. Was nice to hear about a Sci-Fi universe that I like in your video.

  • Chris Hendry
    Chris Hendry 8 days ago

    "Would you like a second life as a giant, weaponized cyborg?"

    *Pulls out the knife*
    "Where's the best place to stab myself?"

  • Yuarian Smith
    Yuarian Smith 9 days ago

    Close quarter combat and missions which require precise attacks will benefit the most from humanoid/quadruped robots, for dealing massive damage we already have a lot of good options.
    Really like the pack of robo hounds idea, would be really effective in an inhabited city.

  • Yuarian Smith
    Yuarian Smith 10 days ago

    Anything with humans inside is gonna be weaker and less nimble than without, since humans tend to become mush at higher accelerations and radiation.

  • CorruptedKing
    CorruptedKing 10 days ago

    You should see Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans. I could see something like the Alaya Vijnana system being a thing.

  • Barris42
    Barris42 10 days ago

    Prepare for titanfall!

  • John Hall
    John Hall 11 days ago

    Did u ever read open space books frum marvel? Or tomorrow knights or fusion ?

  • Adrian
    Adrian 12 days ago

    the zoid is the ultimate combat machine.

  • Clint Brooks
    Clint Brooks 14 days ago

    We need mobile suits

  • Eanna McNamara
    Eanna McNamara 16 days ago

    Just wondering if you made a real hulk buster would that be useful it's only 4 or so meters tall keeping it relatively short. Would that smaller hight make sense?

    SHERMAN YOUNG 19 days ago

    What about the robot yagers from Pacific Rim 🤔

  • Akhier Dragonheart
    Akhier Dragonheart 19 days ago

    A little late to this party but did anyone else just have the Zoids theme playing in their head while watching this?

  • Frank Bowman
    Frank Bowman 21 day ago

    The exo-suit/mecha was introduced in stories by Robert A. Heinlein. Credit where it's due. :)

  • francis chow
    francis chow 21 day ago

    Tanks have to be low to the ground as possible to avoid being a target, so that makes robots a no go from the get go. There are no terminator grade metals to make it possible, legs and arms are too vulnerable to being immobilized by normal rifles, or at worst case an anti material rifle. I guess the oceans are the one place where giant robots would work, its the place where giant ships roam, but they would be more like that, drone ships than humanoid of any kind.

  • bitVictim
    bitVictim 22 days ago

    Personally I would rather work towards building a future without gross terror weapons, it's why I like this channel. It talks about the need for cooperation. If we build robots and mechs to annihilate each other, say goodbye to 99 percent of all the cool ideas this channel talks about. At this rate, all that will be left will be drones wandering around a dead radioactive world (without the "water chip" adventure, and with a lot of more death/cancer).

    • bitVictim
      bitVictim 4 days ago

      +Patrick Kenyon Yeah well, if we were clever we would learn how to get rid of them. That's a lot harder than making more. De-escalation requires complete trust and unity of purpose, two things our species is lacking.

    • Patrick Kenyon
      Patrick Kenyon 4 days ago

      We already have plenty of gross terror weapons.

  • thatguy
    thatguy 23 days ago

    Wouldn't you just pass out when piloting a mech in space?
    I understand tanks a really good at fighting infantry and vice versa, so maybe a mech might be good at ground combat, it could take the punishment of rocket fire while dishing out even more fire power.
    Would have a lot more movement than a tank too.

    • Patrick Kenyon
      Patrick Kenyon 4 days ago +1

      +thatguy Acceleration would have to be slow.
      But I don't think anyone is proposing to travel close to C with these things. They don't seem designed for combat at those speeds and ranges.

    • thatguy
      thatguy 4 days ago

      +Patrick Kenyon g force? You try flying around in a gundom and not passing out.

    • Patrick Kenyon
      Patrick Kenyon 4 days ago

      Why would piloting a vehicle in space be any different than an astronaut going EVA? (Exiting the vehicle)

  • Prot
    Prot 23 days ago +1

    I hereby volunteer for any type of giant robot piloting/powersuit R&D programs at the cost of only/to myself with releasing liability of any other individual, corporation, government or entity outside of my biological being.

    I can has signup now?

  • dlawson688
    dlawson688 24 days ago


  • Brandon Case
    Brandon Case 24 days ago +1

    Have you read the original Starship Troopers? Comparatively ancient, text-only power armor. Very interesting book, especially placed in context

  • horatio
    horatio 25 days ago

    Bio-ships, yay))
    Wraiths like it))

  • Wolf's Den
    Wolf's Den 26 days ago +1

    The most important thing for big humanoid robot, is physical warfare against anyone physically in the field with it. Or worse against civilians if you get a few in a city.

  • ISavic
    ISavic 27 days ago

    Granzort anime series did robot control with movement tracking.

    • RipOffProductionsLLC
      RipOffProductionsLLC 26 days ago

      I'm pretty sure there have been a few Gundams that used motion tracking body suits as well.

  • Reverse Flash
    Reverse Flash 27 days ago

    Autistic enumeration at its finest.

  • Robert Phoenix
    Robert Phoenix 27 days ago

    Good to see that the "First rule of warfare" meme is still alive and kicking! XD

  • Original Sinquirls
    Original Sinquirls 28 days ago

    Accuracy would be a big concern in space combat

  • AlHoresmi
    AlHoresmi 28 days ago

    26:00 consume the biomass

  • Pham Nuwen
    Pham Nuwen 28 days ago

    Great episode as usual. I don't know if you mentioned this, but the primary reason for a big ass robot or tank might be to enable use of a mobile potent power and energy source, i.e. a nuclear reactor, on the battlefield. This because warfare involves delivering lots of energy to the enemy, and fission or fusion is at least six orders of magnitude better than chemical energy.

  • Skeith M.
    Skeith M. 28 days ago

    @22:34 Militaries can go meta and start doing wars in team deathmatch online right now. They should do that already.

  • SpydersByte
    SpydersByte 29 days ago

    14:39 "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL" - Harbinger

  • 8 Bit Hero
    8 Bit Hero Month ago

    One benefit I see is a walker could potentially go where wheels and treads would have trouble. I don't know, I always envisioned them as IFV's or heavy weapons(like an mk 19 or M2)with legs, small and fast enough to keep up with troops, but armored to withstand small arms fire.

  • Baku Haku
    Baku Haku Month ago +1

    I think the 'First rule of warfare' running gag on this channel is my favorite thing on all of youtube.

  • Gregg Weber
    Gregg Weber Month ago

    Some future tank design ideas; Instead of one track on each side either a main track down the center with outriggers at the sides where the tracks now are OR five tracks of equal length for cannibalization with one at the bow for going up things as this is a target for defenders to disable the tank, three on each side in case one is lost so that the tank can still move, & one as a spare at the back.An idea for ships as well as tanks would be multiple concentric shields so that the all can be rotated to one threat or separately moved to protect from multiple threats as needed rather than heavy shielding protecting from the front with less from the sides/rear. Can also go up against attacks from above.There are of course others.

  • Matt A
    Matt A Month ago

    Do a composite video of all the first rules from all your videos.

  • ParallaxNick
    ParallaxNick Month ago

    All this talk about the first rule of warfare reminds me of Sun Tsu's first rule: " To win without fighting is best". I think a video on the future of warfare that examines how technology may eliminate the need for warfare (particularly from the perspective of a former soldier) would be interesting.

  • SusurraSpellshield
    SusurraSpellshield Month ago +1

    Another common issue is that battle operators have a tendency of NOT GETTING IN THE FUCKING ROBOT.

  • ArcherWarhound
    ArcherWarhound Month ago

    Gotta say I'm I'm really looking forward to the Space Whales and Bioships episode. I love the concept of a living ship like the Leviathan from Farscape.

  • TheGreatC81
    TheGreatC81 Month ago

    I need a poster with all of Isaac Arthur's Rules of Warfare. All #1, of course. There's an SFIA merch idea for ya!

  • Lofn
    Lofn Month ago

    Tau battlesuits for the win.

  • Howard Ferguson
    Howard Ferguson Month ago

    Issac have you listened to Nassim Harrimein his theories leave us with the potential of vacum energy and gravity drives.

  • Laurence Harpwood
    Laurence Harpwood Month ago

    You are gay fuck off

  • Azer Draco
    Azer Draco Month ago

    Whereas a giant humanoid robot would be more of a hindrance in warfare (all the points illustrated in the video), they would be completely awesome for use as large "Space suit replacements". Having the ability to shrug off orbital shrapnel that would severely cripple a present-day astronaut is just one of the main benefits.

  • Collin Parker
    Collin Parker Month ago

    The human form isn't mentioned for combat???...r u fucking kidding me???!!!

  • a theory on everything

    Ernest Cline (ready player one) wrote a book called Armada. It's right up the alley of this topic. Manned and unmanned vehicles, game based favorite line Your welcome.

  • EtherasFox
    EtherasFox Month ago +1

    There are other considerations. Extremely broken and uneven terrain, such as a city war zone with collapsed buildings and or with areas flooded and muddy, are difficult for wheeled and even tracked vehicles. In these cases, legs are better - but it seems more likely that a spider-mech would be preferable since they would be more stable.

    The other case that I can think-of is subterranean combat. Foes in caves or even rescue vehicles for caves - legs win hands-down, especially if you could do something like a spider and have some kind of wall-grasping ability.

    One of the big problems with bipedal platforms is a high center of mass. Any big guns would have to be recoilless or it would knock the mech on its butt (leverage is working against you). So once-again the spider-mech seems like the right answer. But unless you put wheels or tracks on its feet, you're always going to lose on even terrain against a regular old tank.

    • SecondSein
      SecondSein 26 days ago

      One major consideration that a lot of discussions on the viability of giant mechas tend to left out is that the enemy themselves uses giant mecha/equivalent that made other platform less effective, thus the only way to counter them is to make giant mecha themselves.
      One of the best example is the Muv-Luv Alternative (weird name I know but that's because it's a Japanese game that is originally...a romance game) in which humanity is assaulted by huge aliens called BETA. The BETA has anti-air lasers, making aircraft worthless, and employ zerg rushes, thus making the ammunition depended tanks worthless in the long run. Their solution was to develop the TSF that once ran out of ammo, can switch to swords to handle the remaining enemy forces.
      Another good example are Macross where their fighter jets can transform into a mecha to counter the giant Zentradi humanoid aliens. The humanoid form prove to be invaluable as it allowed an ace human pilot to fight in an enclosed space against another ace alien and defeat her.
      There are also many other examples I can give but these examples shows that in-universe explanation for these mechas aren't just for cool factor, but necessity.

  • Joe Mclaughlin
    Joe Mclaughlin Month ago

    What ? No robo cop references ?

  • Don't, Jim
    Don't, Jim Month ago

    Wow I'm officially caught up!!! Heck yes!

  • Clowning🤡🌏Around

    I can see a future of human piloted sports mech type combat.
    The only way that i see them being used in actual combat is if we geneticaly enenere our selfs way past the AI level and need the neural link to make competatie timly decisions.

  • Gabe Morehouse
    Gabe Morehouse Month ago

    The first rule of warfare is to have fun

  • RamenCutesune/RandomKitsune

    Did I hear Stellaris music in this one~?

  • TJ Truttmann
    TJ Truttmann Month ago

    I really miss your older formats which focused more on science and physics. This episode, like many recently, is lighter on the physics and more focused on economics and sociological elements. I remember in the early days you'd say "XXX may be true, but I'm a physicist, not a sociologist (or economist or whatever) so I'm going to focus on the physics". I think I've watched every one of your videos and before maybe the last year or so I think the format would have been more like "let's break down the capability of these suits into 5 elements - power, actuators, survivability, materials & combat benefits" - or something like that. Then you would have talked about how possible each element was within the realms of known physics. You would have covered how the square cubed law would make scaling up human form difficult, for example. In this episode you lost me when you said you think something like Tony Stark's suit could be only 10-20 years behind the invention of the power source. You didn't talk about the nanotech or ultrastrong materials needed to make the ultra-thin scales on his armor bullet proof. You didn't talk about the fact that the suit might survive getting slammed into a wall at high speed but, without magical momentum canceling, Tony's brain would be so much mush inside his skull from the G forces of the impact.... I look at your first few years of shows as true Science AND Futurism because you took the time to dive into the science a lot more. I would end one of those videos feeling like I was much more knowledgeable about what is possible (even if highly improbable) with known science...Sorry to post a bad review. I really respect the work you've done in the past, I just feel it's gone too far away from hardcore science. I hope you start to trend back more to hard science.

  • Jose Librado Doria Alvarez

    Halo, star citizen, mass effect, star wars, star trek, call of duty

  • Władca Wymiaru
    Władca Wymiaru Month ago

    We just do not have materials strong enough, can you imagine tank made from wood? That same about "Mobile Suits" - they are NOT robots, robots are working devices, not piloted war engines.
    BTW - look at dinosaurs, especially Sauropodomorphs. Brontosaurus was made from materials STRONGER than Elephants.
    P.S. Point defense? Oh c'mon! Point defense is usefull if HUMAN guide it in VISIBLE range! Believe me radars can be jammed by flood of signals making every computer-drven system USELESS !!! In other hand battle-smoke can obscure even the best eyes...they close range is killing tanks and similar sluggish weapons...

  • Just some guardsman


  • Larry Buzbee
    Larry Buzbee Month ago

    Isaac; as usual I have enjoyed this issue. Given that your subject matter here clearly intersects the general realm of robotics I would like to open a discussion with you regarding how one might, indeed how I feel one WILL build the particular sorts of systems you refer to here. The unanswered questions implicit in the shiny renderings usually far outweigh their actual information content.
    For the sake of (relative) brevity here I include the text of my elevator/email pitch propsing an answer to the 'how to' question underneath the raytracing; how do you actually build and maintain a power suit, giant mecha or anything else of a similar robotic nature? Clearly that remains an unsolved or at best, a very complex and costly proposition. I hope the text below will pique your interest sufficiently that we might carry the discussion on at some greater depth.
    I am seeking an introduction to interested parties. Interested in what? Well how about, for lack of a better moniker, ASAP-GPRA; As Simple as Possible General Purpose Robotics Arhitecture.
    Over many years I have developed a fundamental geometric solution to constructing a self assembling, self reparing biomimetic modular system sufficiently simple to enable rapid modeling and proof of principle prototyping based on a couple pages of entirely verbal description. I apologize for the previous barrage of buzzwords but that is in fact the most accurate and concise description I can come up with.
    Since the solution is geometrical, the realization of this system is relatively scale independent within the limits of current manufacturing techniques. With only four classes of modules and from many iterations of these at various scales it is possible to assemble an arbitrary range of form and function with a very large range of locomotion modes, grading smoothly from millimeter to meter scale without altering the form of the structural units. Such devices could also self assemble/disassemble/repair/reconfigure without external manipulation given some very small minimum number of elements pre-assembled into a functioning mobile unit.
    Depending on scale, differing types of internal components such as 'motors', energy and data manipulations etc. can be implemented according to differing technologies available at various scales but the validity of the solution relies on the physical shapes and means of interlocking and articulating the composite structures, independent of the source of motive force or ancillary devices, so long as those means can be contained within the component forms.
    I would be very grateful if you would forward this note to anyone with sufficient expertise and interest to assess the claims above who might then be willing and able to advise me on how to proceed further toward realization of this system. I come from waaay out in left field, having neither formal training nor credentials in this specific regime so I do not expect to be taken seriously at the outset. However, as I said above, the concept is as simple as is possible such that it can accomplish the functions described here. It is therefore straightforward to describe it to an accomplished 3d modeler quite succinctly for purposes of analysis and proof of principle.
    Any assistance you might be willing and able to provide in this endeavor would be sincerely appreciated. Thank you for taking time to read this.
    Best Regards
    Larry Buzbee

  • itsjustameme
    itsjustameme Month ago

    As computers become smaller, batteries become better, and our capacity for destruction continues to increase to the point where armor will offer little protection, I think we will begin to move away from big bulky war machines and vehicles. If a cheap kamikaze-drone equipped with a bomb can take out a tank (or mecha) or a platoon of enemy soldiers I think we will see war machines getting smaller rather than larger.
    Worldwar 3 might well end up being a bunch of guys sitting in a bunker throwing drones at one another with almost all of the casualties being civillians who got caught in the crossfire.

  • SkidRowTrash
    SkidRowTrash Month ago

    Super interesting stuff as always Isaac, love your channel.

  • Operation Mindfuck
    Operation Mindfuck Month ago

    The relief of taking my Bergan off is almost worth carrying it around.

  • AnalystPrime
    AnalystPrime Month ago

    Every few months I see another person asking somewhere if mechs can be combat vehicles or start a mechs vs tanks debate. The thing that REALLY annoys me about those is how the tank wankers can never get a proper argument together. In short, there are perfectly valid arguments against even trying to make combat mecha, so why are the arguments for tanks so inane? If someone asks a world champion sports team to have a show match against a high school team, and the champion's manager starts making demands that it has to be the worst ranking school and only their worst players are allowed on the team, while his athletes are allowed to dope themselves up to eyeballs and get other advantages, that does not suggest the champions actually deserve their position.
    First, it's not mechs vs tanks, one is a highly mobile light/medium armored IFV armed with antipersonel/antiair MGs, missiles for AA and antitank purposes, and maybe recoilless rifles; other is a heavy vehicle with a big gun meant to oneshot tanks. Mechs won't replace tanks, tanks will be made obsolete by infantry and drones having too effective antitank weapons. That would likely make most mechs obsolete too, but if it doesn't for whatever reason then the mech being able to carry more and bigger antitank missiles than a squad of infantry makes them winners in this scenario.
    "Mechs are big, slow and stomp so loud everyone can hear them" assumes some crappy badly designed by idiots prototype will be fielded as the main combat unit. By same token all tanks in the world will be copies of Leonardo DaVinci's tank made of wood and iron. Nope. A more realistic scenario will be that a mech using tech from year 2020+ will be facing the tanks that are currently in service, many of which are already obsolete and can be destroyed by an infantry shoulder launched missile. I don't know why anyone would waste resources on a mech, but if one does get deployed in a war it will by definition be an effective enough combat unit or it wouldn't exist in the first place.
    "You can't put a tank cannon on a mech" is not a valid argument, there are plenty of other weapons a mech can use that work just fine; better actually, given you have perfectly fine tanks and aircraft that can kill the tanks while mechs do other missions appropriate for them.
    Neither is "you can't armor a mech enough to survive a tank cannon", by that logic no aircraft is a viable combat vehicle either, and neither are many ships! OR tanks, as the whole purpose of a MBT cannon is to penetrate the thickest armor on a MBT. Mechs, like other light vehicles as well as infantry, aircraft, boats etc. rely on not getting hit to survive a fight, this argument relies on the mech pilot co-operating with the tank by sitting motionless while the tank puts it's cannon against it and shoots.
    We are already developing robotics and prosthetics, so the tech the mechs are based on is going to be happen anyway, nobody is wasting research money on something that won't be of any practical use. Tanks and other vehicles already need specialized parts and maintenance, so the common argument that mechs need those things is not a valid reason why mechs should not be used.
    Another common claim is that the artificial muscles(which are supposedly very energy efficient) can simply be used to make an engine for a tank. We already have those, they are called bicycles, and even if you replace the pedals with pistons and cyclists with a bundle of artificial leg muscles, you are not going to get enough power to move a tank. Mechs can sprint because those legs(which are big targets , as tankers keep reminding everyone) are filled with appropriately huge leg muscles, and scaling them down and putting them in a tank does not magically make them stronger.
    Alternatively, if we did have muscles that are strong enough to make a tank engine, well, we wouldn't be using them to make a tank engine but a human size robot, because that android would be Superman strong and make tanks obsolete!
    Either way, ability to use some mech tech in a tank is in no way an argument against developing that tech.
    Just about the only reasons to make combat mechs are heavy infantry support, a very small mech that would have slightly more armor than standard power armors and carry little bigger guns than infantry can easily haul around, and engineering vehicle for the army corps of engineers, which would have to be armored because it is a big target and armed because engineers will still carry guns just like other soldiers. Trying to replace tanks, barring a scenario like BT where mechs are all anyone has, is likely to fail, and giant mecha are just ridiculous. Gladiator combat does not count.
    So, seriously, why are the tank crowd always making so stupid comments?

  • PennyAfNorberg
    PennyAfNorberg Month ago

    How about kugelblitz generators, any fuel, very dense fuel too.

  • Jaytheradical
    Jaytheradical Month ago

    I think giant robots in the humanoid shape are likely to become more common in the future through civilian application. Construction, demolition, mining, and freight management all benefit from increased articulation and stability, and we know that the companies that drive those industries want more, more articulation, more stability, more ease of movement. James Cameron has a story about a screening of Aliens where someone from Caterpillar or John Deere or some such company came up and desperately wanted to know who made the power loader prop and how functional it was.
    And the thing is... while there's not a direct relation, there is some hand-in-hand development between those industries and the military. Look at the killdozer incident, or the degree to which bomb defusing robots reflect factory-made articulated arms. If nothing else, you can bet someone's gonna mount a 50 cal on the arm of their mining mech and go on a rampage someday.

  • Phoenix Flames
    Phoenix Flames Month ago

    -Reactor online
    -Sensors online
    -Weapons online
    -All systems nominal

  • Tigerstripe
    Tigerstripe Month ago

    What do you think of the viability of "think tanks", like those seen in the Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex series, such as the Tachikomas and the larger related vehicles seen in episodes such as Testation (season 1, episode 2)?

  • Happy Farmer
    Happy Farmer Month ago

    Can someone just tell me in plain English if We are gonna havr robots or not.

  • TJ Miller
    TJ Miller Month ago +1

    Point of order:
    One of the earliest fiction books containing "power suits" was the venerable Starship Troopers (Robert Heinlein, 1959)... long before Gundam/Macross/etc. ;)

  • Roxor128
    Roxor128 Month ago

    A good example of giant robots fighting for sport would be the MS-DOS classic One Must Fall 2097.

  • NoNamesLeft0102
    NoNamesLeft0102 Month ago

    That rule of warfare can be ignored if your name is Jack Churchill. Then bring your sword and archery equipment into modern war.

  • NoNamesLeft0102
    NoNamesLeft0102 Month ago

    Panthers? Hounds? I'd want a megatherium.

    KEK VULT Month ago

    Exosuits and giant robots will happen, turning a person into a mobile weapon platform. Better exosuits would be the luxury models to reign over the plebs.

  • Rubastax Akaso
    Rubastax Akaso Month ago

    Possibly fusion generators? The way the technology is headed, fusion generators are predicted to be small enough for domestic use and safe, as a meltdown would only damage the insides of the generator at most.

  • Christopher Donlan
    Christopher Donlan Month ago +1

    Can you do a video on transhumance supersoilders

  • Evan Olivarez
    Evan Olivarez Month ago

    Yes, but nobody is gonna want to do the necessary PCC's AND PCI's for more complicated vehicles and equipment. If my HIMARS can break down randomly, a mech suit is definitely going to break down

  • Dayus
    Dayus Month ago

    when you mentioned the exosuit from aliens, an old anime popped into mind called patlabor. the mechs in that worlds started out as industrial purposes and evolved to counter forces to combat crime from those mechs. with power gen in the carrier trucks came into play as well in that series.

  • John Doe
    John Doe Month ago

    what is this accent ?
    water = watowlle
    power = pawoll
    bridge = bwuedge

  • Paladin Demo
    Paladin Demo Month ago

    Has anybody found first gear in our giant robot car?

  • Alec Allie
    Alec Allie Month ago

    Mobile Suit Gundam comes to mind. I really enjoyed that series a lot.

  • Kyle Mouttet
    Kyle Mouttet Month ago

    Eva unit 01 vs barbatos lupus rex.. who wins? We all do.
    My life for aiur! We return to serve.

  • Benjamin Lee
    Benjamin Lee Month ago

    If you look into the Gundam franchise's rationale of using giant robots, it is because when in space, you want to have a small number of directional thrusters with its thrust axis passing the CoM of the unit, while still be able to thrust in most directions to save propellant. Similar argument for the weapons. The Mobile Suits can turn without using propellant and thus can operate longer then traditional space fighters that rely heavily on vernier thrusters to turn. The shape can also move the CoM outside of your unit, so that the enemy's computer has a harder time to predict the velocity and the acceleration pattern to calculate the lead for shooting it. The system is called AMBAC in-universe.
    You can use CMG/momentum wheels to do pretty much the turn without thrusters, but these are harder to design with actual useful mass because they have to keep spinning at high speeds.
    Granted, you can do it with a snake/fish design with only one turret and one thruster, a scorpion/lobster design with two turrets and one thruster, a reverse Y of one turret and two thrusters, or the humanoid/X shape with two turrets and two thrusters.
    The three limbed versions has limited ability of moving the CoM out of its body in all 3 dimensions, while the four limbed version can do so with less restrictions. More limbs usually makes the system much more complicated and each limb being too weak to do much, but weaker assist limbs may still be good ideas.
    The limbs are also a good idea for them to operate inside space habitats, since you don't want to ship tanks inside each colony to fight while they have virtually no combat value outside in space. Jet fighters don't have much room to fly around in space colonies within the hundred km range.
    Of course the trade off is a smaller volume vs surface area ratio, which means you have less internal space for generators to armour thickness per unit area. However, it is still a good trade off if you factor the cooling of the unit, because you need more surface area to cool down with radiation cooling in space.

  • Sordahon
    Sordahon Month ago

    Isn't it always the case of mobility? Like how Knightmares in Code Geass just were too evasive and with enough firepower to stomp tanks.

  • Luigi R. Bedin
    Luigi R. Bedin Month ago

    Love u guys ❤

  • Nowhere Man
    Nowhere Man Month ago

    Alright, so what if, just hear me out, what if we cloned God, alright, then we put a kids mom's soul in the robot clone, ok, then we have this mentally troubled 14 year old pilot this robot and fight giant aliens?

  • lolmao500
    lolmao500 Month ago


  • Iceman 123
    Iceman 123 Month ago

    Barry Kripke is that you?

  • Sanguinarius9999
    Sanguinarius9999 Month ago +1

    And this is how we all become slaves to the robotics and corporations ruled by elmer fudd.