What did they do to Volibear? || Silence for the Damned lore analysis

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    Sooooo... Volibear showed up in a short story recently. At least I think it's Volibear. I'm reasonably sure. Did, uh... did Volibear always have twelve eyes and mind control powers? Cause he's got them now. It might be more than twelve eyes.
    Oh and also Udyr is Sejuani's dad, so THAT's a thing. Let's discuss!
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Comments • 117

  • Dr Boom
    Dr Boom Month ago

    I'm so glad Volibear won the rework vote, along side Fiddlesticks.

  • Zero
    Zero 2 months ago

    I think this is linked with the history of ornn.Could be in that moment Ornn was so pissed that he riped volibear apart and forced him to seek strenght again for some kind of ancient magic or the void.Or the real form of the demi gods of runeterra is abstract and they choose a form to speak with humans and when they are riped apart they turn back to what they were in the beggining.Or the history of ornns is just a legend but the batlle is real and the old volibear was ripped apart and volibear became more insane and tries to consume to be whole again.

  • Guy With Knife
    Guy With Knife 2 months ago +1

    I like cannibalism and bears I'm on board

  • •Andy •
    •Andy • 2 months ago

    So Volibear is a wendigo now??
    Also definitely recommend reading 'The Wendigo' by Algernon Blackwood

  • Conor D
    Conor D 2 months ago

    I'm like 99% sure that Udyr is not Sejuani's father. He is/was the shaman of her tribe and has been her mentor for a long time. He feels fatherly responsibility for her and swore to protect her, but I don't think that the is her actual father.

  • Sergio Ortiz
    Sergio Ortiz 3 months ago

    Duuuude this sounds AWESOME!!!

  • Jeffrey
    Jeffrey 3 months ago

    I would literally throw volibear into the garbage if that story ends up being canon. It's literally just an eldritch monster. He sounds more like a void monster trying to wear flesh which would be cool, but not at all for volibear. Volibear honestly should just get Aatrox's old character in that he's a war god who charges into battles he has no part in because he lives for it and people praise him hoping he'll come to their battle on their side.

  • Andras Petersen
    Andras Petersen 3 months ago +1

    It doesnt say the thing is volibear, it calls it the avatar, it says in the story it is the avatar of volibear, you even read it aloud.

    • José Ramiro Aguirre Lizárraga
      José Ramiro Aguirre Lizárraga 3 months ago

      Andras Petersen The Avatar of the Bear is the Captive Hunter, the one called Najak, the guy that is T-posing in the picture.

  • Derrad
    Derrad 3 months ago

    New legendery skins?

  • zebnemma
    zebnemma 3 months ago +5

    I don't nececearly see this version of Voli as a completely diff character. I see this version of voli as the dark side that is rarely seen. So I don't want a reworked voli that is just a zombie-bear or whatever, but it wuld be interesting to keep that as an element. Like when Voli os low on health his passive triggers and he gains his hp back rapidly. I'd imagine that his visuals culd change when he's low on health, that he looks torn and nasty and his "mortality is shown". And when the passive hits he goes back to his fresh state "the god can't die". Just a thought but who knows what Riot has in mind. I still love Voli perfectly the way he is even if he's just a "boring" thunder-bear demigod. But yeah still an interesting take that gave me some interesting visuals and inspiration.

  • Terwin94
    Terwin94 3 months ago

    Honestly I don't think this Volibear works all that well with his elemental demigod siblings. Though for all we know this could be Volibear WAY down the line.

  • Isaac Guan
    Isaac Guan 3 months ago

    Maybe this isnt voli bear or it is another volibear hopefully

  • Kenneth Blake III
    Kenneth Blake III 3 months ago

    I am not a fan of this Volibear lore. As a Volibear main (yes those players exist) I don't want my armored bear turning into an eldritch horror.

  • Julio arboleda saa
    Julio arboleda saa 3 months ago

    3:20 the celestials (soraka) are closer

  • SaltyNaCl
    SaltyNaCl 3 months ago

    I kinda thought that the demigod volibear is like the one we have now, but he was somehow corrupted by the void when the watchers were trying to come through the howling abyss. Could explain why he's so gross lookin. Though this whole "bear spirit" thing doesn't really fit anywhere in this theory, so maybe not.

  • Shawn He
    Shawn He 3 months ago

    I couldn't tell if it was a story about the Freljord or an episode of American Horror Story.

  • Johannes Eriksson
    Johannes Eriksson 3 months ago

    I wasn't 100% onboard with the whole "Udyr being Sejuani's actual, literal father"-theory first, but come to think of it: Didn't Sejuani's mother leave the Winter's Claw to look for "her first love" or something along those lines? Couple that with the bit about Udyr having an "encounter" with an iceborn from the Winter's Claw and you may actually have yourself the makings of a pretty substantial theory! Papa bear ftw!

  • cZair Kolmoslink
    cZair Kolmoslink 3 months ago

    I been waiting for this video so much thank you!
    Also volibear went to war, if he went to war with the void then he probably got messed up by it

  • Jesper Rönnqvist
    Jesper Rönnqvist 3 months ago

    You know, I'd never think Volibear is scary. Now I do. Good job with the video! ^^

  • just the Law
    just the Law 3 months ago

    After reading the story in Spanish it is much clearer that udyr is not the father of sejuani, but that he is a father figure that will protect heras if he were her father

  • Jorge Casero
    Jorge Casero 3 months ago

    Well, Volibear being some kind of lovecraftian terror while being a demigod can be possible. I feel like a demigod like Ornn could turn into a twisted, unnatural eldritch horror if something terrible happens to them. And there is something that could do that, the other eldritch terror in The Freljord, The Watchers. I think that Volibear, ages before Lissandra, could confronted The Watcher, and that confrontation could've plant a seed on corruption on his mind. A corruption so powerful that not only made him fight his brother, but also twist his mind, his power and his very nature. Similar to what happened to Renekton, but in a more unnatural way, of course.

    • Diego Sáez
      Diego Sáez 3 months ago

      Little problem with that: Chronologically, the Watcher's first contact as per their retcon last year was with the Three Sisters, and physically manifested for the first time in the Howling Abyss to halt the Insurrection of the Three Sisters after the three wanted independence from the Watchers.

      In your defense though, that same retcon also made the Great Void War (Mt. Targon & Valoran vs. The Void) the biggest plot hole in the lore now, so take with a pinch of salt.

  • Lion 95
    Lion 95 3 months ago

    Gotta catch me hat GoT hypetrain

  • herntex
    herntex 3 months ago

    During the video I tried to press like button like four times, not because it didn't work, but because the video is so good with that ending and all

  • Arrownymouse
    Arrownymouse 3 months ago +2

    I think udyr isnt her dad but a oathsworn, they protect the warmother and their children as we see in Ashe: Warmother

  • Grizzlykin Skynounours
    Grizzlykin Skynounours 3 months ago

    Great video I love where they are taking the game and you are showing it from a great side.

  • Taylor Mackey
    Taylor Mackey 3 months ago +1

    Loved the video! Also, glad to be able to restore my prior Patreon status. But I must say, I'm a little disappointed you only glossed over how absolutely badass lore Udyr is now. I got freaking chills reading about him giving the Volibear the biggest middle finger by changing into the form of the Great Ram. Still, awesome stuff. Keep it up!

  • Luc .K
    Luc .K 3 months ago +1

    In Necrit's video, he theorized that The Volibear is actually a void corrupted Volibear much like the corrupted darkin who was corrupted after Lissandra opened a portal to the void which soon was frozen. The defeaning silence that The Volibear could create was very similar to how the void want a nothingness .

  • Krauser Cruz
    Krauser Cruz 3 months ago +17

    Hold up, you are telling me, there is a parent of a champion in League of Legends who not only its alive but an active part of the story and its not a comeplete misery guts.

    Where were these people when they were writting about Kaisa for *The Volibear* sake. was her lore written by the C team or somehting.

    • Diego Sáez
      Diego Sáez 3 months ago +4

      Her lore was written in a used and dubiously moist blanket in a bathroom after a hangover from a guy way obssesed with Terminator that thirsted too hard for a girl that rejected him so idealized her to kingdom come so that he could feel a controlled notion of mutual affection that has escaped him for years but is oblivious that its happening because lacks the social skills to even maintain proper visual contact with a women so conforms to his fantasized and sexuallized idealization... also aliens, because aliens justify sexuallization, just because.

  • Neo the Loof
    Neo the Loof 3 months ago

    Zilean has an ingame interaction with volibear. I wonder how this could affect their dynamic

    • Eitan Ezra
      Eitan Ezra 3 months ago

      Neo the Loof it probably won’t. It will either be removed or considered not cannon

  • Louish Nadeau
    Louish Nadeau 3 months ago

    I'm pretty sure volibear is now corrupted with the void. Silencing people's minds and killing things to regenerate himself? Thats void sounding to me

  • Ster Scott
    Ster Scott 3 months ago +1

    I do not think that Voli isnt being changed in contrast. I think that it is more of an evolution. What corrupts in Leagues universe? The Void. My theory is that Voli is effectively a fallen Demigod. What Anivia or Ornn could be if they gazed into the eyes of the Void, and were taken in by it.

  • squirrelbuddi
    squirrelbuddi 3 months ago

    I feel like " The Volibear" is a title rather than a name. Any person, entity, or creature can put the mantle of "The Volibear" upon them and take on that role for better or worse depending on the vessel that chooses to take that on. Volibear, the champion, is a being that did that for his reasons and the creature in the story did it for their own reasons. Just because they refer to it as "The Volibear" rather than just Volibear as the name of someone. Imo.

  • Carlos Sánchez
    Carlos Sánchez 3 months ago

    any theories of what happened at 26:15? T B 2.0 ok?

  • DC Ung
    DC Ung 3 months ago

    Woah glad ritos doing some eldritch shit

  • mike wallace
    mike wallace 3 months ago +1

    do you like necrits theory that the volibear is volibear is corrupted by the void

  • Victor Braz
    Victor Braz 3 months ago

    So, for anyone who plays magic, I feel like Udyr would be gruul/green aligned, Ashe would be Selesnya aligned, Sejuani would probably also be gruul, but I can also see her as Naya, Volibear would be Rakdos, but Anivia and Ornn are 2 that I am having a hard time placing. Ornn, even if he has a lot of fire based powers because of his forge, I believe he would be more mono-white aligned than anything, and if you want to put him in a red-alignment I don't think he would be boros, and would most likely be jeskai to subdue any red impulsivity. Anivia I kinda see her as blue because of the whole frost thing, but she is kinda green or white given how she is portrayed in Nunu's lore, but I can't quite place her.

  • Bourahn Dee
    Bourahn Dee 3 months ago +5

    I need this Volibear. It is way more interesting and just straight up cooler than a "thunder polar bear" that he is now.

  • Shmeon _
    Shmeon _ 3 months ago

    So, Skyen. Ive noticed that there is a lack of an Aurelion sol what the deal, now I’m not demanding but my one trick deserves justice and especially yours.(If I’m wrong feel free to tel me I’m an idiot).

  • Raphaël Hemery
    Raphaël Hemery 3 months ago

    I love it every time you talk about that reality bending, cursed and untouchable dislike button

  • lagartoloco94
    lagartoloco94 3 months ago +2

    When I read this I got so excited for whatever they have planned for Volibear. Makes you wonder if Anivia will evolve in any way? 🤔 Not to mention possible changes for Udyr in the future.

    • ArtumTsumia
      ArtumTsumia 3 months ago

      Udyr is one of the few remaining 'Yorick' characters that Riot has just kind of been ignoring (Mordekaiser might be the only other). It's been really _strange_ too because they even made *Spirit Guard Udyr* which felt like they were attempting a rework internally, couldn't settle on things, scrapped the changes and sold it to players as a skin.

      These resent stories have me mildly hopeful that we'll be seeing some changes for these characters. Volibear isn't one that would have jumped to the front of my mind, but he too is from when _League_ was quite a bit more incoherent. Such changes to the likes of Volibear might even bring in a place to try and make characters like Fiddlesticks or Nocturne fit better.

  • TheBmann10
    TheBmann10 3 months ago +18

    A few things:
    First off I think the reason volibear is so attractive to shamans in particular is because he silences all the other animals. Imagine hearing all these voices and this dude walks up who can just make them go away in a snap as long as you devote yourself to him. You may be tempted to take that easy way out of your problem.
    Second I’m worried they will tie volibear to the void. I really hope they don’t as the void is too often used as is imo, but that’s just my opinion.
    Finally I hope one day we get some kind of story with ivern and udyr, since they now have such similar yet different experiences. Just something I think would be neat.

    • Diego Sáez
      Diego Sáez 3 months ago +3

      I believe there's a simple solution, similar to how Akali's VGU was managed: The current Volibear is his historic and heroic representation, while the Volibear that's portrayed in this story is the actual character.

      As to how to explain his visual design without shoehorning the Void -which personally is the least explored faction and yet the most exploited to the point of being used more as a plot device than an actual faction- is that he's nature's undiluted violence. He's a Freljordian demigod that aligned with the primal Bear spirit, mangling into such a volatile mixture that causes everything else to simply bow and give themselves to him.

      He ain't related to the Void as much as possibly being/becoming the planet's response to it with their own eldritch but self-controlled horror. An unyielding, war-forged, tempered warrior that's such a natural threat that eveything else has to stop and surrender to him (which does sound like a good counter-measure against the Void) other than his followers. A warrior with the simple power to spiritually demoralize his foes and both withstand and regenerate his wounds sounds like the perfect warrior.

      And personally, considering his brothers are a rune-ridden sedentary blacksmith walrus that secretes lava and belches fire, a giand inmortal bird made of ice that keeps an entire region covered in eternal winter, and a seal that can manipulate the ocean's currents and everything beneath, I'd say an armored, self-regenerating and multi-eyed horned bear that belches thunder, transforms people into man-bears, and spiritually demoralizes people around him doesn't sound as different, just more graphic.

  • Koatei Harven
    Koatei Harven 3 months ago +3

    I really hope they let go 100% of the old volibear design. I mean, it's just the bear from the Golden Compass lol.

  • Soul of Artorias
    Soul of Artorias 3 months ago +47

    Ornn : God of Earth , Forge and Fire
    Anivia: Goddess of Wind , Ice and Travel
    Seal sister : Goddess of Water , Sea and Voyages
    Volibear : God of Storm , War and Rivers( he drank too much , peed and made first river )

  • llllSNEAKllll
    llllSNEAKllll 3 months ago +28

    I enjoy the complicated feelings that the individual characters have in the new League of Legends lore; this new Udyr story really makes me appreciate the character more. If only his in-game character model and voice lines reflected that complicated characterization in the lore

  • Xinsilv
    Xinsilv 3 months ago

    I love these videos but honestly the only thing that has me coming back every time is hearing what happens to those poor souls that press the dislike button.

  • Tony the Wolf
    Tony the Wolf 3 months ago +1

    6:17 "BEAR"-ly, you say?😃

  • The Paper Knight
    The Paper Knight 3 months ago +3

    I think I like Eldritch Volibear!

  • Mato Be
    Mato Be 3 months ago

    No more silence for the damned lore analyses, they're back!

  • Captain Goat
    Captain Goat 3 months ago +26

    Regarding Udyr being Sejuani's father, we were told that warmothers in the freljord take multiple husbands and when they have children all of them act as dads even though nobody knows who the biological father of every child is, so Udyr seems to be the former partner of Sejuani's mother but who knows if he actually is the biological dad.

  • CompanionPrism
    CompanionPrism 3 months ago

    Yay! Thanks for getting to this one!

  • Euclidean Vision
    Euclidean Vision 3 months ago +1

    I haven't played League in years, but I super appreciate your analyses of these short stories!
    I've often read those you've praised & I therefore really enjoyed Silence for the Damned; so I just wanted to say thanks :)

  • Nelson R
    Nelson R 3 months ago +2

    This is some crazy development for the Frejord lore. I agree that this kind of change for Volibear would be very welcome but how does it translate to the game? Would he change at all? Visual/VO update?

  • The Cosmic Cringycat
    The Cosmic Cringycat 3 months ago +2

    Skye can you talk about the female design drama happening in mortal Kombat fandom

  • Adras Adraki
    Adras Adraki 3 months ago

    League and darkest dungeon 2 have a colab Poggers.

  • NovaGN
    NovaGN 3 months ago

    We need more Ornn

  • Strahinja Spasić
    Strahinja Spasić 3 months ago +15

    Here is my prediction for his new title "Volibear the spirit of Chernobyl"

  • CoffeeCaveman
    CoffeeCaveman 3 months ago

    "I'm gonna do as bare-" BEAR BONES SUMMARY???

  • Vlad Dascaliuc
    Vlad Dascaliuc 3 months ago +73

    I'd totally dig the change into that 12eyed lovecraftian horror of a bear, actually.

  • Tramper TheGreat
    Tramper TheGreat 3 months ago

    Also, why are your endings the best?

  • Felix Rivera
    Felix Rivera 3 months ago +108

    It feels like, at a glance, that they were looking at Volibear and felt he was some weird fusion of Polar Bears and Thor. It just didn't make sense. So for inspiration the writers either looked directly at Native American mythos or read Pet Cemetary. Volibear really feels, at a glance, like it takes strong thematic notes from the Wendigo. The Wendigo is a spirit of death, undeath, and cannibalism, and this new Volibear touches on that realm really nicely in a way that doesn't feel out of place with a more spiritual and naturalistic Freljord.

    • Lucky Red Seven
      Lucky Red Seven 3 months ago

      This feels much more Lovecraftian more than anything else

    • Velari
      Velari 3 months ago +1

      Actually I'd say this is based on Bear Worship/Cult tradition that the ancient (Uralic) Finns, Sami, (Asian) Ainu, some of the Korean and also Slavic cultures worship. Partially ancient americans do worship animals, including the bear, but it's not specifically bear. Still, most of those are cultures that rarely get attention as well.

    • Velari
      Velari 3 months ago +1

      There's also Finnish mythology, with our holiest of animals being a bear and also having shamanistic beliefs, well before the Swedes crusaded us with Christianity, even still, by sheer word of mouth, those beliefs, spells and traditions passed onto this day, similar to some of the Ancient American mythos, which is why some of the Finnish who migrated into America, lived with the 'indians'. Ya can see it with wooden bear statues as decoration or protection in-front of people's houses or the alternative names given to them, not to spell out their actual name. Hunting them and making a feast afterwards to pass the spirit was important as well. There's also the god of harvest and lightning, Ukko, who was also beliefed to be a thunderbird before. So I'd say more so Finnish, but it also could be native American beliefs, or a mix.
      Actually listening to this more, the blood, the chanting, which is common you can see in ancient Finnish spells, sort of a poem that refers to some sort of origin.

    • Louis Aguila
      Louis Aguila 3 months ago +4

      "Where savage nature overtakes a human being and turns them into a monster" 13:05 - 13:10 This specific line reminds me of that survival horror game called Until Dawn. Where the wendigo spirit (the main antagonist) possesses the person, if that said person succumbs them self into cannibalism. Then tranforming the victim into a cannibalistic monster who hunts solely for human flesh. Ironic enough is that this mythical creature is usually mentioned in cold climate and northern regions, an icy place just like the freljord.

    • Lablass-2882
      Lablass-2882 3 months ago +5

      I remember when my grandparents first told me about the Wendigo. It was a hand-me-down story that my great grandfather first herd from a Native American farmer who didn't live to far from us. When I did my first read through for the story, my mind insistently drift to the story of the Wendigo. I wonder what else they have in store for the Freljord.

  • Just Neutraling
    Just Neutraling 3 months ago +12

    Well i have a theory that they gonna change that the old volibear is what he used to be in the past where he battle the void or something then got corrupted and turn into this horrible abomination we got now. It make sense that a demigod led a tribe of warmonger to fight against the void then got corrupted in turn. It would be the most direct and easiest way to have both version of volibear make sense.

    • Just Neutraling
      Just Neutraling 3 months ago

      @Gustavo Hürlimann Yeah an seeing how the Darkin just had a big lore update as well as hint about big update for all the Void champ i expect some big war event happen soon. I remember that Noxus vs Ionia was an event determined by the player through a bunch of tournament. Hopefully they gonna do the same with Void vs everyone else.

    • Gustavo Hürlimann
      Gustavo Hürlimann 3 months ago

      Would also fall in line with the other demigods, Ascended of Shurima, turning into the Darkin because of battling the void

  • David Cruz
    David Cruz 3 months ago

    I love that futurama reference

  • Silvanys
    Silvanys 3 months ago +1

    That clickbait tho

    • Abdullah Elnaas
      Abdullah Elnaas 3 months ago +1

      That comment bait tho.

    • Silvanys
      Silvanys 3 months ago

      T B Skyen usually you have a title thats just plain and like “whats the deal with” so on so forth, but you got really excited about this one, it made me click immediately. It was like “FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT” which is not what you usually do 🤔. Just the first thing that came to mind...no hate ✌🏻been watching for a real long time

    • T B Skyen
      T B Skyen  3 months ago +3


  • Suikey Shirasu
    Suikey Shirasu 3 months ago +2

    I was thinking that The Volibear is the radical, outgoing Ursine went overboard while the real Volibear resides in the utterly xenophobic, purist Ursine that most of the Freljord doesn't know.
    But who knows? The Civil War "Ursine" seems quite possible if Riot seems to want save the old Volibear along with The Volibear. Making Volibear a demigod with a duality, the Volibear who made the rivers and the seas, the Eye of the Storm and The Volibear, the eldritch horror, The Thousand-Pierced Bear.

  • lucketmi1
    lucketmi1 3 months ago +7

    What about Volibear being the brother of Ornn? Isnt Ornn a demi god from a time before man? How can they be brothers then?

    • Timothy McLean
      Timothy McLean 3 months ago +6

      If Riot is going for an authentic mythology feel, that sort of contradiction would work. But both are supposed to be concrete characters in a world which "feels" like post-Tolkien fantasy, where its people are well-defined and internally-consistent (or as close as the author can manage), so yeah, that's weird.

  • Tramper TheGreat
    Tramper TheGreat 3 months ago +3

    I mean, they hinted at this with the Ornn story, because that story was pure Volibear hype, too.

  • Timothy McLean
    Timothy McLean 3 months ago

    3:50: So, are the Ursine Volibear's mortal congregation or his choir of angels? (Demons?)
    6:40: Volibear gives off an aura of overwhelming, obscured, unearthly power, cloaked in natural motifs, like if a Lovecraftian horror decided to dress up for Earth Day...
    8:30: ...but this Volibear obviously isn't. It reminds me of how mythological characters get reinterpreted over the generations as new worldviews and spiritual paradigms roll in that old gods and heroes need to adapt to even though they don't quite fit...except that it's all taking place within a few years.
    15:20: I might be missing some context (I don't usually look into LoL lore beyond Skyen's videos), but I'm gathering a firm "paternal figure" vibe without getting any specific "bio-dad" vibes. No "not bio-dad" vibes, either, which is part of why I'm saying "I might be missing context".

    • datz fatz
      datz fatz 3 months ago

      well, it could be interpreted either that udyr will be LIKE a father for her or he actually is her dad, i dunno^^

    • Konrad Owczarek
      Konrad Owczarek 3 months ago

      one word: rework

  • Angela Sou
    Angela Sou 3 months ago

    Maybe volibear just controls the disgusting thing in the story, volibear itself does not look like that.

  • Pepper Winifred Haak
    Pepper Winifred Haak 3 months ago +19

    I am really upset that youtube never notifies me on time about the vid. I am really waiting for videos all the time to ask stuff, but T B Skyen will never read this... :(

  • Dominic
    Dominic 3 months ago

    I reacted the same (title) when I read this story for the 1st time... Strange design to be honest

  • Orophlacious
    Orophlacious 3 months ago +39

    Volibear sounds like a creepypasta monster. Having him and Orn side by side is going to make for an interesting comparison

  • Matt Sonneillon
    Matt Sonneillon 3 months ago


  • Banzai Bot
    Banzai Bot 3 months ago

    I know there's a video happening after the song, but holy crap is that Magic the Gathering in the background?

    • T B Skyen
      T B Skyen  3 months ago

      Not quite, no, it's all League of Legends music :)

  • Bartosz Kostecki
    Bartosz Kostecki 3 months ago +1

    Nothing, they did nothing and they're not gonna do anything for the next year :/

  • Galiö
    Galiö 3 months ago +4

    I prefer to call it Eldtrich Horror rather than lovecraftian. Guy was horrible and I'd rather he be forgotten altogether.

    • Galiö
      Galiö 3 months ago +1

      @Adras Adraki technically yes, but you can disassociate him.

    • Adras Adraki
      Adras Adraki 3 months ago

      Isnt "eldritch horror" inspired by Lovecraft's work?

    • Felix Rivera
      Felix Rivera 3 months ago +1

      Lovecraft was afraid of math, black people, fish, and air conditioning. He is far from the expert on fear.
      Eldritch Horror is a better way to put it