I think Paul George has a torn labrum - Tracy McGrady | B.S. or Real Talk | The Jump

  • Published on Apr 16, 2019
  • Rachel Nichols, Brian Windhorst, Kendrick Perkins and Tracy McGrady of The Jump play "B.S. or Real Talk," debating (0:04) Orlando Magic head coach Steve Clifford's comments on Toronto Raptors guard Kyle Lowry and Game 1 of their first-round 2019 NBA playoffs series; (1:12) Paul George's comments on his shoulder injury during the Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Portland Trail Blazers (T-Mac says he thinks PG13 has a torn labrum); (2:14) Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic saying he doesn't care about the 2019 NBA Rookie of the Year, with Atlanta Hawks guard Trae Young also a contender; and (3:39) former Boston Celtics coach Doc Rivers saying he thinks about his team's Game 7 loss vs. the Los Angeles Lakers in the 2010 NBA Finals more than the team's 2008 title win.
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Comments • 470

  • blueace2343
    blueace2343 9 days ago

    T-Mac was right about that torn labrum

  • trevone murry
    trevone murry Month ago

    Crazy melo played with a torn labrum through the playoffs against pg13 back when he was on the pacers I think it was a torn labrum 🤔

  • Sideline Stories Entertainment

    Lowry has got to show up.

  • Robin Hood Inn Sweet Roses

    Kendrick is shit

  • Luis Figueroa
    Luis Figueroa Month ago

    Big 3 lmao you dropped a series to the magic lol.

  • Luka Muren
    Luka Muren Month ago

    Another proof Black People are RACIST all the fucking time...

  • Fabricio Piotto
    Fabricio Piotto Month ago

    some people worried about a white european dude beign the next superstar, right kendrick?

  • Jorge Gonzalez
    Jorge Gonzalez Month ago

    Someone fire this bitch

  • Boogga Boo
    Boogga Boo Month ago

    Well since Lucka say he don't care give it to Trae, why not.

  • Jonathan Jackson
    Jonathan Jackson Month ago +2

    Rachel Nichols is cute but she be capping sometimes. You don't have to play nice since Perk is on the set. If Perk would've played they still would've lost. Rasheed Wallace was lights out in that Game 7 and that still wasn't enough for the Celtics.

  • saz19s8
    saz19s8 Month ago

    I thought the title said: “a torn lebron” 😂😂😂

  • Evolution_Algorithm

    It’s hard for Rachel to say anything real about basketball

  • zeal
    zeal Month ago

    this is the worst sports show on television.

  • Cali Connex
    Cali Connex Month ago

    Can’t wait til this LUKA BS is over and all his weak ass fans get humbled . Where is Jermey LIN NOW

  • Monsterr713
    Monsterr713 Month ago

    Rachel i fucking retarded

  • Anthony Reyes
    Anthony Reyes Month ago

    por in 6

  • Dee Gravelrama
    Dee Gravelrama Month ago

    For real? You think they would have beaten Kobe & the Lakers if Lil' kendrick had played? HAHAHA Omg Rachel you lost your damn mind.

    • SanAntoBalla
      SanAntoBalla Month ago

      Kobe ain't getting 15 rebounds with Perkins in the game...
      And like she said they were up double digits in the 4th.

  • Steve Mark Gan
    Steve Mark Gan Month ago +1

    I see a trend at 2:30

  • ANNA Bhai
    ANNA Bhai Month ago

    That's BS they both are not rookie of the Year but Clippers Guard GILGEOUS Alexander should be cause he took his team to play off and is the best point guard of 2018 class...

  • The8thHokage x
    The8thHokage x Month ago +1

    Getting tired of these players saying Trae Young is ROTY because he played better the second half and Luka fell off. Show me where Luka fell off the second half

    • iOniiX
      iOniiX Month ago

      Exactly man.

  • Chris Robinson
    Chris Robinson Month ago

    If if's was a fifth. My Lakers won

  • German Basketball Prospects

    How is there debate about ROY? It does not make sense, unless you’re overrating the value of an (NBA) assist. Trae averaged about 2 assists more than Luka. Luka scored more, rebounded more, had more steals, had more blocks, and won more. Honestly, he was even more fun to watch. They shot almost identically from the field, while Trae was more accurate from the free throw line. No Co-ROY. LUKA definitely is the ROY. And don’t forget, Luka is doing all this while even being younger than Trae. It might hurt the American pride but Luka is the ROY and will likely end up an all time great.

  • Lupe Mendoza
    Lupe Mendoza Month ago +8

    Trae balls after 2/3 of the season when he knows he ain’t making no damm playoffs . Luka balls literally all year long , and yes some minor injuries cost him some games but he started head on knowing what he wanted to do , he didn’t make the playoffs but he is the real ROTY. Plus he was considered an Allstar.

  • hudson mackay
    hudson mackay Month ago

    It's spelled lebum

  • Tayshawn Holland
    Tayshawn Holland Month ago

    Luka rookie of the year. Why the fuck is this even a debate.

  • Ron
    Ron Month ago

    That’s why you don’t have a ring Tracy. Cmon man.

  • McLoving425
    McLoving425 Month ago +3

    I tore my labrum at 18 and i continued to play baseball with it. I know paul could possibly be playing with it. I know the feeling man i hope not tho

  • Joseph Munoz
    Joseph Munoz Month ago

    Okc getting swept

  • Midnight Ninja
    Midnight Ninja Month ago

    Mark my words, expect the Thunder to hard foul and borderline dirty plays if they are losing game 3. They've been doing this every year since KD left and he's headlined but Russ. They get angry when they are going to get eliminated and it starts to not be basketball plays anymore.

  • jiggatasticly
    jiggatasticly Month ago +1

    Perk, fix your finger man... 4:00 mark

  • Marcus Amante
    Marcus Amante Month ago +15

    Bynum and Ariza miss the first championship and we wanna talk about Perkins for 1 game lol 😂 just cuz he’s on the set and looks scary 🤣

  • AnimeRoyal25
    AnimeRoyal25 Month ago +5

    2nd half of the year my ass, it was like 25-30 (If I am wrong, correct me) and luka played most of the 82 games great. They just bring trae up, because it was never close.

    • pg 13
      pg 13 Month ago

      It is dummy

  • jay ganza
    jay ganza Month ago

    Pg saying no excuses, but tryin 2 play everything out to make u see it as an exuse, wtva, Aint Nothing wrong with him, they just Losing

  • Junior Guantes
    Junior Guantes Month ago +14

    Lmao Rachel will you back me if Bynum played in 08 finals would Lakers have won? Lol

  • Junior Guantes
    Junior Guantes Month ago

    Paul George is trash I'm glad he didnt come to the Lakers

    • Junior Guantes
      Junior Guantes Month ago

      +Chinese J.R. on a stacked team bro cant get out the first round. You mean the Lakers who had lebron solo and no other star? Plus injuries that I cant even count. Have that same energy come next season. George Paul and westbrick not winning shitt in okc atleast my Lakers have rings. George and westbrick gonna end they careers with 0 yea I'm that petty

    • Chinese J.R.
      Chinese J.R. Month ago

      +Junior Guantes and the Lakers aren't?

    • Junior Guantes
      Junior Guantes Month ago

      +Chinese J.R. yup Paul George taking Ls

    • Chinese J.R.
      Chinese J.R. Month ago


  • Here Here
    Here Here Month ago +7

    Thunder need 2 fire Billy no adjustments Donavon … He has several young athletic and long rookies on the bench and he puts in fukn Felton on Lillard 2 get exposed ffs

    • Monie Edwards
      Monie Edwards Month ago

      Correct. He need to go back to coaching college

  • MrTdollarsign
    MrTdollarsign Month ago

    Paul George always seems to shrink come playoff time, so yea lets use the shoulder excuse

    • Deon Nelson
      Deon Nelson Month ago

      He actually plays better in the Playoffs if you look at the numbers especially when he was on the Pacers

  • THE VLOG Casa
    THE VLOG Casa Month ago

    tracy and PG look a like

  • THE VLOG Casa
    THE VLOG Casa Month ago

    paul george and westbrook revenge in game3

  • Юлиан Георгиев

    Wow a lot a hate towards Luka from some players.

  • Sports Sidelined
    Sports Sidelined Month ago +3

    If Kyle didn’t didn’t go 0/7, 0/6 from three and didn’t even have double digits in anything else

    BABLU AJAY Month ago

    If he was terrific.I do that every single game. I'm terrific every single game. Please Sign me TORONTO. I'm Waiting

  • thomas brown
    thomas brown Month ago +5

    how tf ya'll gonna tell this man that he cares about roty when he just said he dosent

  • Orange
    Orange Month ago

    you really think Luka cares about an award thats basically the NBAs kids trophy?

    • Orange
      Orange Month ago

      +Putty Wang lol somebody is a little salty

    • Putty Wang
      Putty Wang Month ago

      Yea cuz other than this one he has no chance to win any type of trophy

  • Legoat James
    Legoat James Month ago +1

    I think pg is just 🗑

  • Joel Bates
    Joel Bates Month ago

    I hate westbrook

  • JonWan
    JonWan Month ago +1

    and the same goes for Lebron cause if Andrew Bogut doesn't get hurt and Draymond doesn't get suspended Lebron doesn't have a game 7 nor a 3rd ring Rachel. So why even bother engaging in What if Scenarios... Just Go Home Rachel theres no need for the Kobe hate

    • Paul George
      Paul George Month ago

      JonWan you just said “if”. Fucking hypocrite

  • Lu Aquino
    Lu Aquino Month ago

    Lol love perk but these guys hatinf on luka

  • Dimitri
    Dimitri Month ago +45

    Should've called it Cap or No Cap

  • Lo
    Lo Month ago +7

    I'm going with Luka

    • pg 13
      pg 13 Month ago

      +iOniiX Ben Simmons did

    • iOniiX
      iOniiX Month ago +1

      +Gseric47 consistently is everything my dude.you cant compare full season with 3 hot weeks of Trae.

    • Gseric47
      Gseric47 Month ago +3

      I've been supporting and rooting for Trae since before he got into the league, but if you think Trae deserves ROTY over Luka, you definitely don't watch enough basketball. Luka's been looking like a seasoned player since the start of the season. It took Trae more time to get the momentum rolling, but he's finished off the season on high note.

  • Jose VazQueZ
    Jose VazQueZ Month ago

    Kobe couldn't score in that game 7.Particularily in the final quarter. Ron Artest played like a champion. Kobe did grab a ton of rebounds. Celtics should have won that game. Lakers won through sheer will.

    • JonWan
      JonWan Month ago +1

      Lakers should have won in 08 if Bynum doesn't get injured for the entire series so Kobe would have still beat the Celtics regardless of the Scenario

  • veazy v
    veazy v Month ago

    luka isn’t a “rookie”. simmons wsn’t a “rookie”.
    This fat white man and rachel really vote for these awards?!

    SNAKE Month ago +31

    “Luka had a good first half” no Tracy stop being racist,he’s been balling from day one

    • SNAKE
      SNAKE Month ago

      The Kid that’s not point,Tracy knows everything you just stated,he dosnt believe for 2 seconds trae young should be ROTY,hating luka because a European is making American rookies look like bitches

    • SNAKE
      SNAKE Month ago

      jim jones how is anybody playing a race card?im calling out Tracy for something I’m clearly right about,white people play the race card?you can’t wait ten mins in line without thinking the world has it out for you😂

    • SNAKE
      SNAKE Month ago

      Veoronica Statham gods not real,get over it,acting like you’re smart on TVclip but believe in a made up story about a”god” who sees all hears all, pathetic.

    • Veoronica Statham
      Veoronica Statham Month ago

      +Orange why you think you know what every black person thinks ? Who knew God was a internet troll

    • Cristo Davis
      Cristo Davis Month ago

      +Orange hey purple emoji person stop @ me I addressed your racial comments n moved on to the real subject at hand....picking the "white guy" bc ima realist n facts are facts....as far as your sad pathetic n uneducated comments once again about race, you CLEARLY dont get it bc once again YOU ARE NOT BLACK....so I kindly ask again stop @ me.....Luka should win the ROTY, case closed ✌🏾

  • JoeWaves •
    JoeWaves • Month ago

    Soo bias towards Trae young

  • AJ
    AJ Month ago

    Rachel doesn't know wtf she's talking about. She's a clown. Typical analyst, clueless about everything.

  • Phillip Jennings
    Phillip Jennings Month ago

    OKC about to get swept sorry to say.

  • newcomer des jahres 2001

    kobe won a ring with a broken finger..on his damn shooting hand

  • Lorenzo Bontorin
    Lorenzo Bontorin Month ago +5

    Kobe played with injured hand. That doesn't count i suppose

  • JensenAmory
    JensenAmory Month ago +1

    Luka is Roy stop being biased

  • Sasa Z
    Sasa Z Month ago

    Wow...Tracy McGrady, really? You are comparing winning ROY before Euroleague title with the MVP award? Really? Just wow....first of you have no idea how hard it is to win anything not to mention Euroleague which is the second best basketball competition in the world, secondly...I'm not really surprised by your assessment...after all, you never made it out of the first round of the playoffs, how the hell would you know how it feels to win anything? And it goes to show how ridiculous Hall of Fame has become, you without winning a thing in his life got a place there...Luka already deserves it more then you did with the Euroleague and Eurobasket titles and he is only 20 years old.

    • Mr. Splash Man
      Mr. Splash Man Month ago

      Buddy have you even made the rec league playoffs and averaged 30 or more

  • Kingsley Jackson
    Kingsley Jackson Month ago

    Kobe was 6-24

  • Freddie Laparan
    Freddie Laparan Month ago +71

    thanks rachel for clearing that up, trae balled 1/3 of the season..luka roty

    • Bobby Lee
      Bobby Lee Month ago

      Rachel needs to have a threeway with me and my transgender girlfriend.

    • Butt Man
      Butt Man Month ago +3

      +Jalen You probably blind? or only watching trae's highlights ass

    • Jalen
      Jalen Month ago

      trae is better, luka is ass, dk why everyone keeps hyping him.

    • Freddie Laparan
      Freddie Laparan Month ago +10

      +veazy v funny how everyone was saying "euro league doesnt mean anything, nba is a different league" now yall crying he aint a rookie? heh..its his 1st year in the nba still = rookie.also he's only 20 not his fault his good enough for the euros in his teens

    • veazy v
      veazy v Month ago +1

      Freddie Laparan luka isn’t a “rookie”. Ben simmons wsn’t a “rookie”.

  • Kingsley Jackson
    Kingsley Jackson Month ago

    They was blaming melo

  • Cyril G
    Cyril G Month ago

    Players getting injured once playoffs start. Wtf

    • Vin_
      Vin_ Month ago

      The season is too long.

  • Søren Rasmussen
    Søren Rasmussen Month ago

    kendrick and mac your ignorant fools

  • MrQuibbles
    MrQuibbles Month ago +28

    I'm tired of hearing "Luka was good first half, Trae was good second half so Trae could win". Luka was great first AND second half. Trae might have played better in the second half but he was GARBAGE to start. Kendrick and his career 5 PPG need to get outta here with that xenophobia

    • kevi86
      kevi86 Month ago

      +veazy v really????

    • kevi86
      kevi86 Month ago +3

      +Jason you do realize that more is worse right?

    • MrQuibbles
      MrQuibbles Month ago +3

      +Jason you do know that a higher defensive rating is worse, right? The number is the points per 100 possessions that opponents score while the player is on the floor. So the other teams score 113 points per 100 possessions while Trae is playing. Trae is literally the worst defensive player in the league. 514th out of 514 eligible players in terms of defensive real +/-

    • Jason
      Jason Month ago

      +kevi86 You do realize Luka is the worse defender out of the 2 right ? Trae's defensive rating is 113.6 , Luka's is 109.8 , Luka has had a horrible month this year, Trae has had a horrible month this year , Luka played phenomenal the first half while trae played average, Trae's played phenomenal the second half while luka's played average, like I said the award should be split.

    • kevi86
      kevi86 Month ago +1

      +Jason take out march/april and Luka is shooting 44% 36% 75%... Its rookie of the year award and Luka was better overall this season. Not to meantion Trae is one of the worst defenders in the league.

  • Nickronic Televised

    Just let WestBrick take them to the Finals.

  • Haweya Abdullahi Adan
    Haweya Abdullahi Adan Month ago +1

    Americans are poor in their analysis why not get professionals to do this job

    • Amari
      Amari Month ago

      Haweya Abdullahi Adan they played in the nba...............

  • Alex Stefanis
    Alex Stefanis Month ago +1

    Euroleaugue Final Four MVP>ROY in NBA. Definetely. He won a championship for gods sake. Not just an award.Get your grip man

    • Alex Stefanis
      Alex Stefanis Month ago

      +Matt Co I'm not gonna disagree on that. My comment refers to how easy tmac erases a euroleaugue title as if it is something easy.

    • Matt Co
      Matt Co Month ago

      Alex Stefanis the hell are you talking, euroleague doesn’t even compare to NBA, he cares about ROY just pretends and wants to look like a class act.

  • Raptors 2017 Champs
    Raptors 2017 Champs Month ago +1

    Tmac has no business talking about other player's shortcomings in the playoffs. Guy was a known fraud come playoff time.

    • D
      D Month ago

      What makes him a fraud in playoff besides not getting out the first round?

  • You You
    You You Month ago +1

    Tmac got that will smith voice

  • Cm Punk
    Cm Punk Month ago

    I can smell a Sweep RIPOKC

  • Terankar
    Terankar Month ago +7

    They burned down Notre Dame and Paul George is now a hunchback? No coincidence!

  • John Taylor
    John Taylor Month ago

    this is the nba

  • Alex D
    Alex D Month ago

    Rachel nichols doesn’t know shit dumb red head

  • Chino Avila
    Chino Avila Month ago

    LMAOOOOOO what is wrong with Perkins finger

  • jemarcus reid
    jemarcus reid Month ago +1

    Why mfs always gotta take away from kobe😂😂

    • JonWan
      JonWan Month ago

      its Always Rachel Poopooing on Kobe smh that bitch need to go shes a LeAnalyst

  • Franco Romero
    Franco Romero Month ago

    The disrespect towards the EuroLeague tho

    • INTOtheVOID11
      INTOtheVOID11 Month ago

      +Bishop Shakur LMFAO

    • Bishop Shakur
      Bishop Shakur Month ago

      Right and almost every player in that league play better than a regular nba player.

  • Esketit Esketit
    Esketit Esketit Month ago

    Trae Young was dropping 30 and 10 left and right bruh WHILE playing defense.

    • Esketit Esketit
      Esketit Esketit Month ago

      Harambe must don’t watch a fucking game.

    • Harambe
      Harambe Month ago

      +Esketit Esketit bruh... bruhhh hahha you tripping. must be a hawks fan.

    • Esketit Esketit
      Esketit Esketit Month ago

      Harambe watch a game. He can’t guard perimeter for shit. But, he has hands. Luka is basically harden on defense.

    • Harambe
      Harambe Month ago

      defense...... bruh

  • Flaming Chimp
    Flaming Chimp Month ago

    Trae young is garbage.

  • Thuan Duong
    Thuan Duong Month ago +4

    Poor T-mac...Never got out of the first round

  • TheNamesDitto
    TheNamesDitto Month ago +4

    Euro League MVP and Euro League Chip > NBA ROTY.

  • Zachery Henry
    Zachery Henry Month ago +1

    I remember Anthony Davis scoring 0 points in his national championship game but it was still considered a great game.

    • Derek Andrew
      Derek Andrew Month ago +1

      Davis isn't a guard though. Guards have the ball more than bigs.

  • mm mm
    mm mm Month ago

    Luka wants finals mvp

  • Calvin Wong
    Calvin Wong Month ago

    Perkins laugh lmao

  • Max Kellerman
    Max Kellerman Month ago

    West brick or west shit

  • Franc Mittelo
    Franc Mittelo Month ago +1

    Luka Doncic isn't a rookie. The guy was a professional player in the European League. I guess Zlatan Ibramhimovic was a rookie when he came to the MLS. LOL

    • Angel Cruz
      Angel Cruz Month ago +1

      David Stephens he said it as a joke cause he’s really nice you dumbasss

    • David Stephens
      David Stephens Month ago

      Franc Mittelo he’s a rookie in the NBA stupid

  • Yun Gluv
    Yun Gluv Month ago


  • Moe K
    Moe K Month ago +172

    They better stop with that trae young is rookie of the year BS

    • Zetsword
      Zetsword Month ago

      +Lukas Eh, it's comparable, Trae is a better long range shooter (though 3PT wise they are practically identical this season), FT shooter, better ball handler and assister, more durable and better at getting by his man. Luka has the advantage in the remaining areas (rebounding, midrange shooting, defense, overall scoring)

    • Lukas
      Lukas Month ago +2

      21/8/6 vs 19/4/8 and Luka shot the ball better, how can you argue for Trae

    • Chinese J.R.
      Chinese J.R. Month ago

      +Deon Nelson ignorant

    • Cookies And Tacos
      Cookies And Tacos Month ago

      Moe K yes he is

    • Deon Nelson
      Deon Nelson Month ago +1

      +The Big Bronkowski nah I'm good

  • Jamais
    Jamais Month ago

    Damn that man was playing like an MVP too what a shame.

  • Progressive news
    Progressive news Month ago +2

    4:08 the lady on the show loses all my respect I can tell she. Really doesn’t know the game we love

    • Red Demon
      Red Demon Month ago

      Rachel knows her shit,u tweaking

  • Simao Lagoa
    Simao Lagoa Month ago

    The incredible pedigree of American arrogance still ranking 1st. Incredibly myopic observations by these 2 great players, they lost a an opportunity to not sound like ignorant athletes. One never played outside his own backyard and it shows. The other, despite playing in World Champs seems to forget the obvious fact that BBall outside the US is just about toe to toe and Luka actually has achieved recognition as a fantastic young player in his own right. NBA has long expanded its borders but the individuals mentalities are still catching up.

    • Simao Lagoa
      Simao Lagoa Month ago

      +p W Do expand…I have zero idea what you mean, or why you even speak. What´s your point?

    • p W
      p W Month ago

      take it easy on that adderalls

  • Book of shadows contributor Brian

    the jump sexy host

  • The Ladies Man
    The Ladies Man Month ago

    Torn Labrum!!! No doubt... OKC not telling the truth

  • Alessio D'Angelo
    Alessio D'Angelo Month ago

    No respect for Doncic at all. Trae Young had a great second part of the season that is a fact, Luka was not only consistent during the whole year, he was better than Trae even during the second part. They just don't wanna accept it

  • Luis Garcia
    Luis Garcia Month ago +1

    Lowry is trash 🗑 he couldn't make it in the trash can either haha

  • Alexia Is On Fire
    Alexia Is On Fire Month ago

    This fucking idiot actually said Trae deserves ROTY 😂 that shit is just straight up racism and jealousy

  • Madi Fletch
    Madi Fletch Month ago

    My dad broke his shoulder and ended up getting surgery and had to stop playing basketball now he is a basketball coach.

  • Djbro2true1000keepitsotrue Jones

    OKC allways had bad lucky i like westbook but he play sloppy he been shooting bricks when was the last time okc went too the 3rd round when kd was on the thunder

    • Chandler Morillo
      Chandler Morillo Month ago

      Djbro2true1000keepitsotrue Jones that’s true............but a bunch of stuff has changed since 2016.

  • Nosy Rosie
    Nosy Rosie Month ago

    He probably needs to stretch more. Lol.