Film Theory: Is Suicide Squad's Joker ACTUALLY Batman's Boy Wonder?

  • Published on Jun 1, 2017
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    With Wonder Woman coming out in theaters this week, I felt it was time to take a look back at some of DC's other movies from the past few years. Specifically, Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad. Back before Suicide Squad and Batman v. Superman hit theaters, there was a theory kicking around that Jared Leto's Joker was secretly Batman's sidekick, Robin. But the Director of Suicide Squad, David Ayer, seemed to dismiss this saying that Jason Todd, former Robin #2 was NOT the Joker. However, the proof we cover today shows that Suicide Squad's Joker can still be Robin...just not the Robin that everyone thought.
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    reece paul Day ago

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    Claude Jones Day ago

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  • Raygan Hagee
    Raygan Hagee 2 days ago


  • nitroglitch45
    nitroglitch45 2 days ago

    Lol, the only flaw in this theory is that the people in charge of DC movies would never be able to imagine something this cool.

  • Zombie Rob
    Zombie Rob 2 days ago

    10:12 F*** you ruined batman for me for ever.

  • Alphus Pathrose
    Alphus Pathrose 2 days ago

    Hey Harley came before Tim, right and why would Harley be in love with Tim because he is not the original joker.

  • Creeper Explodesion
    Creeper Explodesion 3 days ago

    the third Robin aka joker made harley. kill Richard Grayson

  • kirby superstar
    kirby superstar 3 days ago

    11:29 I feel like the best image to express the outrage of fans at that line is the meme of the skeleton throwing his hands up

  • Aaron Tabaog
    Aaron Tabaog 3 days ago

    Robin is born in a circus

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  • spiralniral
    spiralniral 3 days ago

    Robin dick grayson? or Robin Jason? Just found out nvm

  • Cengiz Wayan Kan
    Cengiz Wayan Kan 4 days ago +2

    I have a theory: Batman is actually Peter Parker

    • Winter Schnee
      Winter Schnee 3 days ago +1

      I need pictures.

      Pictures of SPIDE...ahem...BATMAN!

    • G&N
      G&N 4 days ago +1

      Pretty solid theory if I do say so myself

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    Completely forgot about Jimmy Olsen

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  • Kiitsune
    Kiitsune 5 days ago

    The reason why Robin makes up all those catchphrases is because he doesn’t want to say “Holy shit Batman” or “Holy crap”!

  • Grenison DT
    Grenison DT 5 days ago

    Now i feel bad for the robins, incliding the one that was reprogrammed.

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    KawaiiceCreamPlayz 5 days ago

    ladie's and gentlemen,we got'em.

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    go pro 6 days ago

    Dick is't dead because off titans

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    Gracee Freeman 7 days ago

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  • Spiritcat208
    Spiritcat208 7 days ago

    At the end:
    *F R E E that spells FREE*

  • Spiritcat208
    Spiritcat208 7 days ago +2

    I feel so bad for Robin now...
    *And my brain hurts.*

  • Joseph Cirrincone
    Joseph Cirrincone 7 days ago

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  • MicroRosh
    MicroRosh 7 days ago

    jason todd is red hood

  • Jermaih Nealy
    Jermaih Nealy 8 days ago

    On the bomb collar

  • Jermaih Nealy
    Jermaih Nealy 8 days ago

    The animated suicide sqaud. Movie had much more of a gory affect where there was more blood shed

  • Oh Yeah Yeah
    Oh Yeah Yeah 8 days ago

    Man I live in New York City don’t b yeah talking it

  • Taliyah The queen
    Taliyah The queen 9 days ago

    You fucking !try hard

  • alicia carter
    alicia carter 9 days ago

    26? Theory: Will Be there a DC v. Marvel studios and anyway he older than marvel studios

  • Kylie Rose
    Kylie Rose 9 days ago

    As a super fan... I wanted to clear up some things.
    1) Jason Todd and The Joker hace matching J’s because of how The Joker murdered him.
    2) There are 5 Robins. Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, and Damian Wayne. If you want to get picky, there are 6 if you count Carrie Kelley, but she’s not cannon.
    3) Yes, Tim Drake was brain washed and turned into a literal clone of the Joker known as Joker Junior. BUT, Tim Drake was brought back into the Bat Family way before Suicide Squad came out and became the hero known as Red Robin when Stephanie Brown, the 4th Robin, took his place.

  • moody ali
    moody ali 9 days ago

    How can he remember she wiped his memory

  • BetterThanChocolat1
    BetterThanChocolat1 10 days ago +1

    At 5:06 is a joker family

  • Natalie Godinez
    Natalie Godinez 10 days ago +2

    Is it weird how my school is doing a original play and Robin (I'm playing as him) tries to join the Legion of Doom. 😂😂😂 I really find that weird XD

  • Jack penguin-EnoshimaTM

    wait!When Robin got beat he had bare feet don't ask how ik I just pay attention to everything and also in the suicide squad poster joker has bare feet coincidence!!!

  • Randy Begay
    Randy Begay 10 days ago


  • Evrythang U Want
    Evrythang U Want 10 days ago

    Suicide Squad is my fav movie, but I watched it AFTER they deleted my fav scene and the backstory of. Joker scene... URGGGG

  • Kawaii Dog 46
    Kawaii Dog 46 10 days ago +1

    Kill me now!!!!

  • slogoclaus G
    slogoclaus G 11 days ago

    In sucide squad it says in harley orgins the death of robin joker cant be tim drake jason has to die first

  • My Name
    My Name 11 days ago

    Am i the only when i saw Robin beaten up got Jason Todd vibes

  • The Moist But Droopy Long Crotch

    That director ruined dc

  • YoungAymanYt
    YoungAymanYt 11 days ago

    what about Damian Wayne

  • Noah Talbot
    Noah Talbot 11 days ago +2

    at least joker was in more of the movie then slipknot

  • random YouTuber
    random YouTuber 11 days ago

    Batman is under arrest for robin abuse

  • zachifdu 07
    zachifdu 07 12 days ago

    Who's watching this in 2019


  • Ragtimegal 4 now
    Ragtimegal 4 now 12 days ago

    Same intro for over a year, awesome

  • Darth Samurai
    Darth Samurai 12 days ago

    Do a theory on the tv show Gotham

  • Thor Odinson
    Thor Odinson 12 days ago


  • LeAnn Kennett
    LeAnn Kennett 12 days ago

    The tombstone for Dick Greyson could have been one of those symbolic deals (it’s very common when someone dies and they don’t have a body or at least not enough of one for a burial)
    This fits in with the possibility that Dick was in an explosion or something like that, and the joker died and a devastated Harley Quinn kidnapped an unconscious mid to late teen Dick Greyson. Bruce mistakenly assumes the dead body of the joker is Dick and Joker got away
    Harley then used electric shock therapy to wipe his mind and create the events pictured in Suicide squad! (In one of the animated films that picture an older Dick Greyson as night-wing he does sleep with Harley when she was on the outs with her puddin) it’s not that big of a stretch that she would morph her previous paramour into her deceased lover. (It’s the best of both worlds right?) By the time Bruce discovers what happened it’s too late and the damage was done.

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    Funtime Fredbear 12 days ago

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    Master Puppet 12 days ago

    Who is watchingn in 2019

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    deadpool man81 13 days ago

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  • joshua anderson
    joshua anderson 13 days ago

    There are 4 robins

  • Emery Amon
    Emery Amon 15 days ago

    The Project Cadmus symbol looks like spider mans face

  • Austin Directo
    Austin Directo 16 days ago

    Matches up with the new Joker movie in 2019.

  • Hannah is a human
    Hannah is a human 16 days ago +5

    This might also explain why Harley doesn’t get abused in the suicide squad movie
    The new generation of joker was brainwashed but he didn’t have as hard as a hatred for her like the first generation
    So this could explain more since their relationship isn’t as toxic as the original Joker

    I have no idea if any of this makes any sense

  • L.Sneed
    L.Sneed 16 days ago

    This has got to be the most retard driven channel on youtube. And what's with people pretending to be big jimmy olsen fanatics?

  • Lisa Williams
    Lisa Williams 16 days ago

    I guess jason rode the smiler

  • Edscratch23469
    Edscratch23469 16 days ago +1

    Could Joaquin Phoenix's Joker be the original Joker before Robin? maybe his movie will Explain what happened to the original Joker and how Robin became the new one?

    • Edscratch23469
      Edscratch23469 16 days ago +1

      that"s my theory anyways...probably wrong...

  • pickle jar
    pickle jar 17 days ago

    What happens to terry whites robin and also 2:05 it’s just something they did for fun dc did as a little joke and they even announced it in 2019 but ....... oh wait you didn’t live in 2019 at this time

  • Mister J
    Mister J 17 days ago

    Hmmmm, I have no memory of it, but it's obviously a joke, right. I mean ME, The Clown Prince of Crime, working with The Bat, even thinking about it puts a frown on my face.

  • spacelord Baez
    spacelord Baez 17 days ago

    Your theory got destroyed:your using comics to make your theory and the problem is joker age didnt change meaning that the joker gas from his death can turn someone els into the joker this information comes from the batman how laughs

  • Gabe Olson
    Gabe Olson 17 days ago

    Im not jimmy olsen good

  • Long Trinh
    Long Trinh 17 days ago

    i knew there was smthing odd about that joker brainwashing scene

  • Deathadder 6800
    Deathadder 6800 17 days ago

    Joker is imortal, joker is an idea that lives hidden within everyone

  • Yash Playz Offical
    Yash Playz Offical 17 days ago

    This theory might be debunked again because of flash point

  • Sour Icky Tv
    Sour Icky Tv 17 days ago make my head hurt

  • Willow Pehringer
    Willow Pehringer 18 days ago

    How dare you I love Suicide Squad! I don't agree with you personally when you say make Suicide Squad better to watch. I hated Batman vs Superman tho, so I get that.

  • S.sharpedo and A.metagross

    10:55 I thought it was Harvey dent

  • Jc anims
    Jc anims 18 days ago

    This theroy happened but it was different robin turned to toby

  • Trevin Wiest
    Trevin Wiest 19 days ago

    Nananananananana BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy amazing theme song Batman. Did I do it? SIGHHHHH one day.😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • TurboWarrior
    TurboWarrior 19 days ago

    There are four robins. There’s another one

  • Dumb Comix
    Dumb Comix 19 days ago

    Whose watching in 2019?

  • Shadow
    Shadow 19 days ago


  • Screen changer
    Screen changer 20 days ago

    Who's else is watching in 999999999999999999999999976

  • Khaled Omar
    Khaled Omar 20 days ago

    Batman is evel

  • beba micou
    beba micou 20 days ago

    This would be the only theory that would save suicide squad for me...I hated it for so many reasons and lack of joker was one of them.. also dont like baffleck...

  • Tamales Chidos
    Tamales Chidos 20 days ago


  • B Garcia
    B Garcia 21 day ago

    Red hood is not a villain

  • Aquamarine Alibi
    Aquamarine Alibi 21 day ago

    Teen Titans icon :(

  • TheDemonic Spawn
    TheDemonic Spawn 21 day ago


  • TheDemonic Spawn
    TheDemonic Spawn 21 day ago

    LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE! I MAY BE CRAZY BUT IM RIGHT! WHY SO SERIOUS?! WHY SO SERIOUS!? U WANNA KNOW HOW I GOT THESE SCARS?! DO YA?! My dad's a drunk and so one night he comes home drunker than ever and grabs my mom by the head, with a knife and goes to stick it in her mouth, I scream being a kid, and he then turns to me, Y SO SERIOUS? Oh don't cry I'm not gonna hurt her, LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE! He then puts the knife against my mouth Y SO SERIOUS!? And SLASH, I TOLD U IM ALWAYS RIGHT!! NEVER BE SERIOUS! EVEN IN THE DARKEST CORNERS I WILL FIND U. EVERYDAY MY DEMANDS ARENT MET ANOTHER PERSON WILL DIE. I LOVE THESE GAMES SO WHEE BY ALL MEANS HAHAHA LETS KEEP GOING HAHAHA!

  • TheDemonic Spawn
    TheDemonic Spawn 21 day ago

    The og joker was a big mafia boss that Bateman kicked into a pit of dangerous chemicals during a fight which turned the joker crazy via brain damage and anger and revengefulness.

  • Smil λ
    Smil λ 21 day ago

    There's a theory... you can see the joke in the background, beating up someone with what seems to be the a crowbar in the scene where harley is being electrocuted by him. Who got beat up by the joker with a crowbar? Jason fuckin Todd. Just a little thing i wanted to leave here.

  • Kyvon Simpson
    Kyvon Simpson 21 day ago

    Here is a question that only true batman fans should know since we on the robin topic how many Robins did Batman truly have and how many of them truly turned evil

  • Wulf Ryan Septim
    Wulf Ryan Septim 22 days ago

    Dick Greyson also used a staff, at least in Teen Titans (cartoon series) however he was supposed to have traits from all the Robin's I think so that could be why

  • Wulf Ryan Septim
    Wulf Ryan Septim 22 days ago

    I'm only halfway through the video but got really excited at the Juggalo reference, Joker is greatly recognized by juggalos (obviously hes well known by all and is a psychotic clown) so it was cool hearing that reference
    That being said although I enjoyed this joker and just thought of it as DC focusing on the psychotic aspect of his character he is the most edge lord of the jokers I can't deny hes probably one of the worst jokers but that doesnt mean he isn't good just not as good (and again a bit over dramatic)

  • Always Panda
    Always Panda 22 days ago +3

    You know, that's a pretty cool theory. I never really thought he could be Joker, much less that Joker from Sucide Squad would be
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  • S Graviet
    S Graviet 23 days ago

    Mehhhhhh I’m battman

  • •LPS Sugar Diamond•

    Harley didn’t intend to erase memory’s of being robin. Keep in mind she was still dr. Harleen Quinly at that time, she was not yet his partner in crime. Therefore she was doing her job as a doctor.

  • the cool shoeshine
    the cool shoeshine 23 days ago +2

    Marvel: we've got this multiverse were there are different varieties of the same superhero.

  • christie Ludlow
    christie Ludlow 23 days ago

    Do a theory on Jumanji

  • Nina Khrapunova
    Nina Khrapunova 24 days ago

    Does anyone here actually like Suicide Squad? No? Just me? Ok.

  • Ryuu Ronin
    Ryuu Ronin 24 days ago

    Am I the only one concerned that the Theorist-Mobile is a painted van?

  • Toby Taylor
    Toby Taylor 24 days ago

    Since when is soon and enhance real?

  • Lollipop Lollipop
    Lollipop Lollipop 24 days ago

    What about us girls

  • Manuel Alejandro Ordonez

    What the shi

  • Gabi Fernandes
    Gabi Fernandes 24 days ago

    What about Damien