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2:29 the ironey there is in the 50s the censors would have been fine with a the girl being rapped (if it was off camera) but appauld if she enjoyed it.
So, you think this movie was so realistic as compared to the Greatest Showman. lol...I liked it, but found it completely forgettable .
I laughed so hard I had to leave the theater a couple of times so as to not disturb others. It was beautiful to look at , wonderfully lighting, set design, costumes and the like. But as a fan of Sci Fi and magic realism this story was farcically bad. I mean farce!! To add to the absolute hilarity of the plot and flabby writing (the ending was evident about 23 seconds into the film), the stereotypes were so 2017 Hollywood that people will be able to look back in 30 years and learn of the obscene over the top sense of importance HollyWorld types have. A wonderful snapshot of how the movie industry stereotyped in the mid teens of 21st century. The idiocy being that they were trying to break existing stereotypes and in doing so reinforced stereotypes their own sorry business has been trying to impose on our culture for some time now. Hypocrisy, stupidity, predictability you name it all washes up on the banks of a dirty swamp here.Two curiosities that were left unanswered. How does a lowly cleaning lady get absolutely any, never mind completely unabated , access to the greatest military secret of the cold war whenever she so desires? Couldn't these guys in 2017 come up with a costume for our waterlogged reptilian chess master that didn't look as if it was stolen from the 1950's set of The Creature from the Black Lagoon?You'll laugh til you cry.
I really enjoyed it, it's no Pan's Labyrinth but i liked it
I read somewhere that falling in love with the fish man would have been a lot like falling in love with koko the gorilla.
Johnlindsey289 i do, because all the characters in the game have human level intelligence.Fish man was smart, but still seemed like a wild animal throughout the film.
And do you think Mass Effect handles human X xeno romance better?
Del Toro is awful at character, story, theme, and basically anything that isn't visual design and cinematography. Every supporting character in this has their arc dropped completely by the halfway mark, and every theme of racism/sexism/religious intolerance, etc. is dropped almost the instant it's introduced. The movie tries to sell the creature as a sensitive being but then has it bite the head off a pet and excuses it as a "wild animal." Can't have that both ways, folks. And while Sally Hawkins' scene where she explains why she wants to save the creature is a great one, none of the scenes with her and the fishman show any of that or sell the relationship beyond the physical. Like so many of Del Toro's films, the intention is good and the premise is compelling, but the execution is emotionally hollow. Left me cold on everything but the performances, which Del Toro isn't able to piece together into anything that works narratively.
What about Pan's Labyrinth, Devil's Backbone, Hellboy 1 & 2 and Cronos?
Sold by the first sentence.
It finally came out where i live and i finally got to see it and ooooh man i loved everything. Also fishguy is hot don't @ me!!
That is perhaps the single most disturbing tagline I've ever heard given to a movie! Good job!
You do not want to see my DVD collection!
they'll would let del toro do anything.
I have to say, MovieBob, I am really loving your stuff!!
Would it get the same reaction though if it was a man crushing on a fishwoman?
I think it was called Little Mermaid.
BOB: Are you going to review Three Billboards? You gotta take this one in!
While well filmed and well acted, I found the whole thing to be an exercise in poor pacing and frustrating characterization. The movie jumps right into the main plot without doing anything to set up even the most basic plot elements, the most glaring being the romance which comes out of absolutely nowhere and, because the fish man never signs anything more complex than "egg" and "music", it feels actually really rapey when it finally becomes a romance. As far as I could tell there wasn't a single shot or scene that establishes to the audience that this thing is any more intelligent or able-to-give-consent than a chimpanzee. It had no character, it had no apparent goals or thoughts of its own, it just ate some eggs and listened to some music, didn't like being tortured, and went along with whatever Elisa wanted, whether it be rescuing him, setting him free when she decided he should be free, or fucking in the bathroom. All-in-all an excellently made and fairly entertaining mess.
+Shadowmask8So you believe he's less Abe Sapien and more of a sea monkey?
Moviebob, can you make a review about the Infinity Wars trailer?? It would be cool to know where things may go considering in Thor Ragnarok, Thor loses an eye in a fight with Hela and, eventually, Ragnarok ensues destroying Asgard, making the Asgardians nomads from there on out. Also, Odin dies, Thor fights Hulk and unlocks full Thunder powers. Post credit scene reveals Thanos arriving to Earth.How do you think Thor and the other Avengers will care will fare against Thanos based on the trailer?
Also, can I just say that my headcanon is that this is Abe Sapien's origin story?
"...Yeah, I'm gonna f*ck the fish guy."You silver tongued romantic, you.
A like just for the opening statement.
I thought the trailer was a trailer for the new hellboy movie and I'm sure I wasn't the only one since Doug Jones is basically playing Abe again.
I guess that makes her pescosexual...
Water? never touched the stuff. Fish f*ck in it.
If this movie was made in Japan the monster would have been an octopus.
AND I CAN'T SMIIIIILLE WITHOUT YOU!
"Best movie about fish-fucking of the year". So... it's better that "Bait" then.
Oh man, are we bleeping out words again? It's so annoying, I was really glad that he stopped doing it after moving to TVclip. I guess Geek.com doesn't like F-Bombs.
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So what if Abe and Nuala actually did it? Got ya
hentai is pretty neat
These are the kinds of movies I wait all my life to see.
I want to see this film so much!
You SHOULD see my DVD collection Bob! 'Humanoids from the Deep' is THE best fish-fucking movie of all time.
You're really hung up on the whole fish fucking part of this film, aren't you?
It's only weird if you've never played Darkstalkers. Fuckable fishmen are totally normal.
i can not wait to see this
man, now i am hyped for that!
I can’t believe I live in a nation that has to wait another MONTH just to see this
Perfect intro.Wait... Doug Jones? Is this a prequel to Hellboy?!?!
Bob you got this one so wrong... This movie was terrible...
Okay, so basically the fish sticks his fish dick into her fishy schlick, and then they watch some movies and fight the system. Cool beans.
I never appreciated Del Toro until Crimson Peak last year, but DAMN the man is a visionary.
I feel like Guillermo del Toro's level of weird awesomeness is basically what m knight was trying to achieve with signs and lady in the water.
*"Hell of a movie this is, go see it should you, young Skywalker."*
There's never a movie I look forward to more than Del Toro's next masterpiece.
"Yeah I think I'm gonna f--k the fish guy" okay that one cracked me up. Also do you have a Venom t-shirt because that would look really good with a black sports coat.
1:00 - unintentionally funny - "The shape of water is cut more it less from the same cloth"
That woman really is into fucking fish. I must see this? Yes, I must. Del Tora is a true master. Or seductress? Both?
Cast:_Unnamed Manphibian_ ... Doug Jones_Protofeminist Mute Fishfucker_ ... Sally Hawkins
between this, The Disaster Artist, and Star Wars, December's gonna be a helluva month for movies.
"Fish, (bleep) in it."
It's hard to believe, with the fall of the Dark Universe, that never didn't ocurred to Universal to call Del Toro to make the shape of its Cinematic Universe a la Kevin Feige. This could be a great version of The creature of the Black Lagoon.
They did, they were playing footsie with the idea, but universal ultimately said no; dumbasses
Careful with the auteur statements. Just remember Tim Burton used to occupy a niche all of his own at one point too.
You..... have a point......
So, from the description I'm not just seeing Creature from the Black Lagoon influences but also influences from H. C. Andersen's "The Little Mermaid".
Huh... I think I read this fanfic already....
3:15 Is that The Story of Ruth they're watching? Now that's a rare Biblical epic. Appropriate too, since it involves a heroine falling in love with an rebellious outsider to her society, and her lover getting persecuted by the oppressive religious order she serves.
Del Toro taking the "To obey, just like that...only people like you captain can do that." Philosophy to storytelling.
Okay, Bob...you have my attention.
Oh wow, that joke at the start was pitch perfect. Now to watch the review :D
My sibling told me this was Abe Sapien origin
I want to see Del Toro make a movie out of the Transmetropolitan comics.
Fish fucking is going mainstream!
0:05 What's wrong with The Little Mermaid? :(
She sure loves them fish sticks
With tartar sauce? LOL
Alright, we’re all thinking it.Abe Sapien origin story!
My GF is super excited for this movie. Puts no effort into hiding the fact that she too wants to fuck the fish man.
Very similar to this short released in 2015... tvclip.biz/video/k9eph-uumze/video.htmlEven down to the woman mopping the lab where the creature lives. Although, and I do love Del Toros' work, I'd rather see a feature length version of the short
Neonomicon done right, huh?
What the deuce? I couldn't see anything! Just one big, black space where the video should have been.But for me, the old "the real monster is man" twist is so overused, it's normal. I think a bigger twist to these movies would be "PSYCHE! The REAL monster is the least human-looking thing in the room! You big, dumb idiot!"
You may have to close your browser and reopen it again. It happened to me a few times, and I suspect it has something to do with TVclip ads and AdBlock not playing nice with one another for some reason.
Is it shot on film or digital?
I'm really annoyed that this movie isn't getting wide release for a few more weeks. Why only show it in NYC for one fucking day?
I don't think I have a better fish f%$@ing movie in my collection (since i haven't seen "shape of water") *BUT* I _do_ have a pretty good fish f@#$ing movie called "Dagon" based on Lovecraft's "Shadow over Innsmouth". you should review it in "schlocktober" ^_^
A woman fucking a fish sounds more Cronenberg body horror than romantic.
"Shadow over Innsmouth"
finally the cronenberg rom com we've all been waiting for
I just came up with a new act of time travel fuckery. Go to Lovecraft and tell him all the things that happened that would confirm his worst fears. Then after he's done his initial freak out, explain how that thing that he reviles with the core of his being really isn't that bad.
Gorinich Serpant Yes. Dagon. It was truly heartwarming.
Wasn't "women have consensual sex with fish people" part of the horror premise in that one Lovecraft short story?
4:16 "Even though 'The Shape of Water' feels like it POURS more to the middle of his overall output..." I see what you did there Bob!
Doubt you will read this but will you be reviewing punisher
I've always thought that about Sally Hawkins. Every movie she is in it's like 'oh she was amazing' and then a second later 'yeah of course she was, it's Sally Hawkins.
Seriously Bob?! What does it take to get 4 stars?! I didn't hear you say one negative comment on the movie. But still it doesn't quite make it. Is this a meme of yours? Are you trying to tell us that no movie is deserving? I guess this doesn't really matter, but still...
It's probably the predictability of the film.
This is the problem with star ratings, people are reluctant to use the highest rating even when they really like something.
Stoked to see this. Doug Jones is the best.
Kinda curious if del toro would consider doing the Japanese seinen 'wolf guy' now.
Looks like Abe Sapien finally gets a girlfriend.
Jeremy Leyland I get it!
Day one, baby. Let's see some goddamn FISH DICK.
Manphibian is my new word today.
Obviously EOD propaganda. (Ia! Ia!)
3 months until it comes to theaters in Germany. how do they expect me to not buy or pirate the bluray release that will be out long before that? fucking Germany, man.
Between the opening and the comments I can't stop laughing. 😂
when are you going to review the Christmas prince. I want someone to articulate how bad it is.
how come this video was censored? every fbomb was bleeped. I was enjoying the uncut reviews.
moviebob, oh good. I was afraid that history was repeating itself like what happened with the last sight you did film reviews for. Also it does work out comedically given the topic, in retrospect the bleeps hammer the shocking nature of the film more, I guess shocking. thanks for the clarification, also big fan of yours since your first few GO videos. keep up the great work.
My own decision, strictly for comedic effect
0:00 - 0:07 Oh, Bob... You haven't seen the fandom floating around Breath of the Wild's Prince Sidon, have you?
Or how about... furries...?
Oh, we’re counting video games?In that case, ahem..._Cuphead_
im disappointed yet also exited to know that they don't explain why they where torturing the fish man, disaponted because they smacks of lazy writing but exited cause then there my be theories to be had
I am very confused... yet intrigued...I feel like Del Toro is just messing around with us now in the 'how awkward can you make a film summary?'
So...is it Abe?
His similarity to Abe pretty much ends at "is a fish man."
maybe a distant relative of Abe.
Abe wasn't worshiped as an Amazonian river god.
TheTygre I don't know if that's canon, but I would totally read that story.
Nah. Abe's wife is a New England ghost who still haunts their seaside manor because he never came back from being an ocean Freemason possessed by an angel/Cthulhu jellyfish.... I don't get to talk about how great BPRD is a lot.
I want to hear what have to say about Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri. It seems like something moviebob would love.
Adam Sherman of course. I'm just dreading this upcoming Oscar season. If it's anything like last year, it'll be nonstop culture war bullshit.
Art can be problematic and still be good.Look at both _Blade Runner_ movies.
sonicpsycho13 I think I already know. He shared that Godawful thinkpiece from Alison Willmore, so yeah. He's of the opinion that 3 Billboards is "problematic." What a shock.
sonicpsycho13 I think he did a review for this already.
I saw it. It was fucking amazing.
i seriously thought this was a stand-alone film about abe sapien.
Also the eggs. I guess Abe preferred them rotten.
doug jones, yeah i know. one of the reasons why i assumed it was abe.
Same actor in the suit. Headcannon for me.
i wish omg, maybe next year
1. Get del Toro to make a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie. Seriously, it's long past due.2. Let Guillermo make his "At the Mountains of Madness" movie.3. Profit.
And bring ron goldman to play...something.
I fucking need Mountains of Madness NOW!
Yeah, a Del Toro _Ghost Rider_ film would be amazing.
Del Toro is perfect for Ghost Rider
SuicidalPooh Del Toro making a Swamp Thing movie would be so incredibly awesome.
Guillermo del Toro is a goddamn scalie.
Nothing wrong with that! i mean hey see Skyrim where an elf or human male can marry a female Argonian
My favourite film of the year.If Pan’s Labyrinth was the best live action fantasy film of the last decade. The Shape of Water is the best live action fantasy film of this decade.
Nyk Carnsew Ok
The Cinematic Mind usually when people say "the last decade" they're referring to the last ten years before now, I've never seen that phrase used to refer to the previous decade.
Nyk Carnsew You do know I wrote “If Pan’s Labyrinth was the best live action fantasy film of the *last decade*You seen to completely missed that didn’t you.
The Cinematic Mind Pan's Labyrinth came out more than a decade ago.
I am so happy to hear you say you liked it.
Zaat pt.2 or The frothy waters of Dr. Z.