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  • Published on Apr 11, 2018
  • What's a computer? With that simple line in a commercial, Apple infuriated everybody. In the premiere episode of Processor, Dieter Bohn asks why it sparked so many feelings. And also tries to answer the question. Subscribe: goo.gl/G5RXGs
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  • The Verge
    The Verge  5 months ago +237

    Surface Pro vs iPad Pro vs MacBook Pro vs Pixelbook: which computer would you choose to be your only computer for the next couple of years? - Dieter

    • Alex McCaffrey
      Alex McCaffrey 27 days ago

      Surface Pro because it's the only one I can run Desktop software when I need to but also some tablet apps too for when I want to relax. Even if battery life isn't what it should be and Tablet Mode is terrible, oddly using the Surface Pro in Desktop mode works much better, if it looks a little odd. Both the MacBook and iPad are too restrictive. ChromeOS is too limited for me.

    • Alfie Mulcahy
      Alfie Mulcahy Month ago

      Pixel book. Definitely not the Mac or the iPad. I wouldnt mind the surface though.

    • Clicks36
      Clicks36 Month ago

      surface pro but it's ads are horrible

    • Sagars51
      Sagars51 2 months ago

      Aaron Domanais a device that does work to save time

    • Sagars51
      Sagars51 2 months ago

      Aarib Anwar wow what a shame

  • Nadeem Rawashdeh
    Nadeem Rawashdeh 22 hours ago

    MacBook and i think i would miss out on the touch screen

  • Jack Walton
    Jack Walton 9 days ago

    iPad Pro because I have one hahaha 😁😁😁💩

  • TheRageQuittingGuy
    TheRageQuittingGuy 10 days ago

    Surface

  • TheCrazyhumans
    TheCrazyhumans 13 days ago

    As an engineering student I prefer a windows laptop or pc as it supports the software I use. For phones samsung and for tablets it's the ipad.

  • Promethean Ice
    Promethean Ice 16 days ago

    That was such a perfectly planned and executed video.

  • Khushaal Choithramani
    Khushaal Choithramani 18 days ago

    Definitely iPad

  • Максим Цыба

    Chromebook looks like a perfect deal. What's wrong with him, that makes it not a perfect device for everyday use?

  • Samuel Fisher
    Samuel Fisher 23 days ago

    Anything that can compute is a computer. Thus meaningI am, the iPad Pro is, and the 35 year old calculator on your grandma’s desk are all computers. Fight me!

  • PTA
    PTA 23 days ago

    PRO

  • arrozmaluco
    arrozmaluco 23 days ago

    1:00 giant feet Dieter

  • isoul3
    isoul3 24 days ago

    Macbook Pro. Just because I can be more productive with it. I can code with it!😁 But I will definitely miss out gaming (mobile) that only iPad Pro can provide.

  • TheAndy 06
    TheAndy 06 24 days ago

    Technically, the ipad does have 3 app support.

  • Nodar Tchumbadze
    Nodar Tchumbadze 26 days ago

    google pixelbook

  • Rafael Martinez
    Rafael Martinez 28 days ago

    I got the pixelbook and I got it because I am in the Google ecosystem and grew up with chromebooks. I have a Pixel phone, a TV with Chromecast built in and Google assistant support, an wear os watch, andvbeen using Google apps for years. I am in college and the thing that suck with the pixelbook is that it is difficult to connect a printer wired and that's it.

  • Daniel Evans
    Daniel Evans 29 days ago

    SAME I LOVE INDIVIDUAL WINDOWS TO MOVE AROUND

  • Chanon Pongpanich
    Chanon Pongpanich Month ago

    Love this kind of philosophical approach to technology. Keep up the good work, Dieter.

  • PLANET G
    PLANET G Month ago

    the surface pro

  • PLANET G
    PLANET G Month ago

    it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. and you just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro.

  • PLANET G
    PLANET G Month ago

    it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. and you just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro.
    So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • PLANET G
    PLANET G Month ago

    it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. well for chrome book you can just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro.
    So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • PLANET G
    PLANET G Month ago

    it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. well for chrome book you can just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro.
    So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • Brandon Hysell
    Brandon Hysell Month ago

    Laptop computer

  • Maverick Hunter K
    Maverick Hunter K Month ago

    For me, the only downside of am iPad is that you can't format it and stuff like that. I get that it tries to be easy and friendly, but we should have the chance to choose. Plus, sometimes you NEED iTunes to restore and stuff.
    Other than that, the iOS interface is enough for most types of work.

  • Buzz Bee
    Buzz Bee Month ago

    Surface Pro - it’s versatile and works as a tablet, everything I need to do I can do on Windows (work apps such as Microsoft Office, social media browsing or watching The Verge on TVclip, and maybe even a little bit of light gaming), I can use the Surface Pen for annotating diagrams or presentations ...
    Though sometimes I do prefer navigating around Mac OS, but overall I can always rely on Windows and the Surface for anything I need, and whatever the situation.

  • Cameron Taylor
    Cameron Taylor Month ago

    I gave up my MacBook Pro for my iPad a year ago and I code, edit vid, and play mmo’s all day. Computers to my friend and I are old and unnecessary but I’m only 22 so maybe it’s just my age group that thinks that’s way.

  • Graysid
    Graysid Month ago

    what i wonder is if any of those computers can run good computer programs like ark survival...

  • paige santos
    paige santos Month ago

    Ipad pro because it is protable and i can use word on the ipad and if i do not have internet i can still work on internet bass stuff because i have a data ipad. The only thing i might miss with using a regular laptop is if i needed to use adobe photoshop or in design

  • Farmer Jim
    Farmer Jim Month ago

    iPad pro body and surface touch cover running windows 10.

  • チュimoc
    チュimoc Month ago

    The only one for next few years? Of course surface 😅

  • Rui Fernandes
    Rui Fernandes Month ago

    So Pro 😂 0:30

  • BloodRider 14
    BloodRider 14 Month ago +1

    Obviously the Surface. I just need Windows. I guess the Mac could work, but nothing else

  • SilverHelmet
    SilverHelmet Month ago

    *_computer_*

  • Mozzman
    Mozzman Month ago

    Whats an iDumb?

  • jeremaih syandira
    jeremaih syandira Month ago +1

    I would pick the macbook pro

  • Alex Overton
    Alex Overton Month ago

    I'd definitely pick the Macbook Pro. Yes, I'd be missing out on Tablet features, but I really don't have a need for them. I love how my Mac works already.

  • silentkool21
    silentkool21 2 months ago

    Samsung Galaxy notebook 9 pro

  • Vladimir Lenin
    Vladimir Lenin 2 months ago

    why not just make a ios/android/windows mode all in one ipad?

  • Sarang Borude
    Sarang Borude 2 months ago

    What are your thought on things like Samsung DeX? Take your phone with you, hook it up to a display and you have a window based Desktop that run off of your phone, It is still not there yet, but is it fly or die? Think of carrying your phone with you, then insert is into a laptop like formfactor and it is a laptop. Now connect it to your desktop work station and you have a desktop. I was curious to see what your thoughts are about that giving the processors in the phones keep getting powerful every year.

  • Reese Kury
    Reese Kury 2 months ago

    iPad pro

  • Theo
    Theo 2 months ago

    I would pick the surface although I would miss the IOS apps of the iPad.

  • ᛏᚺᛟᚱ
    ᛏᚺᛟᚱ 2 months ago

    I think Dieter loves windows because he's a Mac user. I'm a Windows user, and whenever I get overlapping windows, I immediately snap them side-by-side. That's also a Mac feature, but more importantly it's an iPad feature. While more functionality isn't a bad thing, I think having overlapping windows is overrated. It's nice for drag-and-drop, but that could be implemented (and is for legacy apps on Windows) between snapped side-by-side windows/applications.

  • Shinzo's Sins
    Shinzo's Sins 2 months ago

    The only one I wouldn't pick as my computer for sure is iPad. Not because of commercial. I herad of it for the very first time. But because I don't need overly expensive tablet. I need computer that gives me all the options. Not just only ones that are avalible on their sotre.

  • Theo
    Theo 2 months ago

    What’s a TVclip video?

  • A. B. Shadow
    A. B. Shadow 2 months ago +3

    I need a The Verge coffee mug and sticker.

  • Sagars51
    Sagars51 2 months ago

    I would say all of them would do good in the future just see

  • Muhammad Habib Khan
    Muhammad Habib Khan 2 months ago

    Although Windows store lacks the vast variety of apps and games like on the App store and Play store, but I will still definitely go for Surface pro because in my personal opinion, Windows is the best for work and it's store is also getting better over time. So yeah Surface pro all the way!

  • Alvin Yang
    Alvin Yang 2 months ago

    iPad Pro is innovative and futuristic

  • Shubham Tripathi
    Shubham Tripathi 2 months ago

    Wow, this was just a bunch of generic observations thrown together. What about your own take on where computers are going & what their future is actually likely to be?
    IMO, every person needs 2 computers- one for portable, convenient, quick tasks & functions. And the other for hard core, high intensity computing or processing purposes. Most ppl thus use a full fledged laptop as well as a smartphone. Nobody needs, wants or cares for a tablet because it doesn't do anything extra tha both the above category of devices can't do.

  • I.P Mahendra
    I.P Mahendra 2 months ago

    I am a apple fan but I recommend surface pro

  • BP__
    BP__ 2 months ago

    Get a Windows laptop and get BlueStacks boom problem solved

  • Alex Hayman
    Alex Hayman 2 months ago

    I wouldn’t like my MacBook with a touchscreen, it’s just not meant to be

  • Gabriel Eick
    Gabriel Eick 2 months ago

    i think the suface pro running manjaro kde.
    cons of macines
    -pixelbook terible repairbility
    -iPad pro can't officaly turn of secure boot
    -pixelbook unstandard keyboard
    -macbook pro unstandard keyboard no touchscreen

  • Alexander Radchenko
    Alexander Radchenko 2 months ago

    What about the surface book?

  • Nels Lindahl
    Nels Lindahl 2 months ago +1

    This was a seriously enjoyable video to watch. Thank you for putting this series together.

  • Zyzzus Christ
    Zyzzus Christ 3 months ago +4

    surface book best of all worlds

  • Ricky Brunet
    Ricky Brunet 3 months ago

    I have them all except the MacBook Pro, so I don’t have to pick 😂😂😂😂

  • Sheh RAK
    Sheh RAK 3 months ago

    VISION: quantum computing gonna make these gadgets in your table especially "what's a computer? IPad" ; look like (Nokia 9910) in 2018.
    Seriously, Apple and all market companies knows that they're not ready to move us to the next generation of computing.

  • Matthew Betts
    Matthew Betts 3 months ago

    3:34 Put the Mac aside...
    4:25 MacBook Pro has pride of place in front of Dieter.
    That didn't last long...

  • Zacharie Chiron
    Zacharie Chiron 3 months ago

    I think iPad Pro actually! I've been growing in an iPad Mini and I can do mostly anything there... almost.
    As long as I can use my family's 10 year old Mac occasionally to compenste the lacks of the iPads, I'm fine: USB key support, printing without airprint, and especially: being able to have two windows of the same app! That's necessary for me to translate my novel and work on it from multiple angles.
    So why an iPad Pro? Well, I'm going into college and I want to go paperless and yes, the iPad Pro does this the best... by far.

  • A2 aria ezzatpour
    A2 aria ezzatpour 3 months ago

    Surface pro

  • FN 11
    FN 11 3 months ago

    As an illustrator, I would go for the Surface Pro. I can run full Windows apps without having to get out a drawing tablet.

    Btw no one can argue that the iPad Pro is a computer.

  • interrobangings
    interrobangings 3 months ago

    also "it has great apps!" is kind of disingenuous when 99% of apps are websites we could be opening in any browser ever, games which are arguably worse than PC or console counterparts, or cut-down versions of full-size desktop programs

  • interrobangings
    interrobangings 3 months ago

    the problem is that with the way it comes across, it's not philosophically asking "what /is/ a computer?" but rather it's quite literally asking "what's a /computer?/" as in "i've never heard of this before"
    they could've tweaked the line itself or asked her to deliver it differently to make it come across in another way, but as it stands? she just seems like some teen being mystified by the first time she ever saw a floppy disk in 2018. it just makes her look like an idiot

  • Gregory Stewart
    Gregory Stewart 3 months ago

    iPad Pro and Surface Pro (or OEM's) will dominate.

  • John
    John 3 months ago +1

    MacBook Pro

  • Sukalpa Kundu
    Sukalpa Kundu 3 months ago +3

    I wish Mr. Steve Jobs was alive.

  • Sai Jayanth
    Sai Jayanth 3 months ago

    Pixel is soon building it's own ecosystem like mac, i feel.

  • Nivethan LJ
    Nivethan LJ 3 months ago

    macbook or surface book, definitely not ipad pro or chromebook

  • pv4. happy
    pv4. happy 3 months ago

    Definitely the pixel book mmmf

  • John Febb Vidal
    John Febb Vidal 3 months ago

    Can I connect my sirface pro to a monitor using the surface dock and use it as a desktop without turning on the surface pro itself? Like in macbooks?

  • Abdurrahman Baragbah
    Abdurrahman Baragbah 3 months ago

    Macbook redesign with detachable screen (like surface book) with new macOS that can run iOS app kinda cool...

  • Christine Roy
    Christine Roy 3 months ago

    I am kinda old school in that my work can only be done at the location I work at and I have PC(s) for all my work tasks (I do product testing). So "my computer" is just for me outside of work. I could do what I most enjoy listen to my music library, manage my day, consume content and social media with either a chrome device or the iPad. My iTunes library is the easiest to maintain so the iPad pro would be my choice, but I would miss the customization of a PC or Android devices.

  • yac man
    yac man 3 months ago

    i run my small business on a chromebook ( asus c302 ) , and a new ( to me ) lg v20 phone. all of your options are simply to expensive for my needs. i expect to use the chromebook till google won't update it anymore, and the v20 till i can't buy replacment batteries for it.
    if money was no object, i would hire someone else to use whatever they wanted to get the job done.

  • Abhinav Palacharla
    Abhinav Palacharla 3 months ago

    Mac

  • HASAN AK
    HASAN AK 3 months ago +2

    The PixelBook is awesome so awesome you couldn't even say anything bad about it I would say PixelBook

  • Silvio Britto
    Silvio Britto 3 months ago

    Who would say, to me Star Trek's Communicator get it right decades ago... It's smartphones (eventually this name will simply change).
    We all carry computers on our pockets already.
    The rest will be connectable screens.

  • Blobfish 101
    Blobfish 101 3 months ago

    Being able to run full desktop apps allows far more flexibility in programming and makes it easier to make more varied and groundbreaking programs. You don't end up locked into a particular set of programming languages and a set structure of how to make your program and you have a much larger set of coding libraries that you can use to develop your programs with.

  • Hanif Muhammad
    Hanif Muhammad 3 months ago

    Boy! That last line was deep

  • Mubarak Dawoud
    Mubarak Dawoud 3 months ago

    I’d pick the Mac book Pro .. and I kinda wished that Apple would do a MACOSX version on iPad Pro .. I’d call my first born Tim if they ever did that 😂

  • Likhan Ghosh
    Likhan Ghosh 3 months ago

    Why is this demonitized?

  • Xavi168
    Xavi168 3 months ago

    This video is available all the time for public viewing because its loaded somewhere on some computer, no? :) Apple underestimate the power of the good old laptop.

  • Matt Michel
    Matt Michel 3 months ago

    everything been computers for years

  • Matthew Coles
    Matthew Coles 3 months ago

    My computer was built in 2016 XEON processor the guys who built it had already said we'd been talking about this while surface was still in beta mode ...........what happens after windows 10 they knew microsoft had no anticipation of building another os ???

  • Matthew Coles
    Matthew Coles 3 months ago

    I think it's funny how people seem to take a statement out of context or you could say that not everyone see's or hears things the same and should'nt PERCEPTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bryan Chu
    Bryan Chu 3 months ago

    She isn't saying "What's a computer" as in "What is the definition of a computer". She is supposed to genuinely not know what a computer is, which is why it is so stupid.

  • Arun Vishnu M.E
    Arun Vishnu M.E 4 months ago

    Computer is a electronic machine that works very fast, if new or without virus...
    Thanks to my 1st standard book for the answer

  • Shankar S
    Shankar S 4 months ago

    You said it wrong again. It's Pixel Chromebook.

  • RyanWake bradtelle
    RyanWake bradtelle 4 months ago

    Chrome books need to have any arm processor and an Intel processor and make them to laptops or a tablet and a laptop then you can have absolutely anything and everything.

  • Zayd Ghazzawi
    Zayd Ghazzawi 4 months ago

    The reason why I’m mad about that Apple iPad commercial isn’t because of what’s being said in the nuances of computing. It’s because she knows good and damn well what a computer is and that feels condescending and uppity.

  • ECHLN
    ECHLN 4 months ago

    The Surface Pro is the future of the computer. It is literally perfect.

  • ad78
    ad78 4 months ago

    Got my 2017 Macbook 12” brand new for $899 @BB. Dont tell me about single USB C because i dont care. Now i installed windows pro as well via bootcamp. I think im really happy with it.

  • 40Tman
    40Tman 4 months ago

    when apple is gonna make a car... they will make a ad with somebody saying... whats a car

  • Phil H
    Phil H 4 months ago

    "I use the surface and I think it's apps suck" hahaha oh boy. This video was probably made with that sucky app Adobe Premiere and After Effects. I'm sure the iPad Pro and Pixelbook have much better versions! ....right? I just browsed through the top apps in iTunes, the vast majority of them are on Windows already. Really not sure what killer apps are on these mobile platforms that makes windows "suck". Any serious power user still needs Windows/OSX specifically because they have the best applications.

  • divyanshu
    divyanshu 4 months ago

    Apple = overrated LOL

  • Max Gisborne
    Max Gisborne 4 months ago

    give me a 90's ThinkPad with Arch and i3

  • Leo Sanchez
    Leo Sanchez 4 months ago

    Watch apple kill off all their laptops and force everyone to use and iPad pro 😂😂

  • AJ
    AJ 4 months ago

    Surface, handsdown

  • kercmerk
    kercmerk 4 months ago

    Your videos are always fantastic.Excellent production quality.

  • Jackson Murray
    Jackson Murray 4 months ago

    WhAt'S a CoMpUtEr???