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a fascinating design for sure, but this functions more like a proof of concept or first prototype than a lock
you could also look at someones key, see their combination and put your own key to that combination
Some cats were like "we'll revolutionize the lock world," 20 seconds later, after the LPL has picked it, is like "needs improvement. that is all I have cor you today..."
Your video title have a tendency to sound like porn video titles
Seems effective in security through obscurity. If single pin picking is the only way in, I'd say it's safe enough for the vast majority of attacks.
1300 still isn't great. although, to be fair, I don't know what the normal keyspace is for an average home lock.when I was a kid, my grandmother said that when her house key was the old-fashioned kind (maybe a lever tumbler lock?) she randomly discovered that it worked in the lock of a private restroom in an office building near where she worked. I'm guessing the keyspace wasn't great for those, either.
At 1:41 you show a good look into the cylinder and you mentioned anyone with one of these keys could brute force it in 81 trys but would you not be able to just visualy adjust your key to match the positions that you see the pins in?
does taking these locks apart permanently ruin them?
Not at all. They are meant to be disassembled and put back together very easily and it is something you have to do in order to change the combination.
i imagine those lockpick minigames playing on his head, then he has to hit the button at the right time
Me ten minutes ago: 800k subs lol wtf youtubeMe now: oh this I can get behind
"In any case..." I see what you did there, lawyer man.
I’m getting dentist vibes
Not to mention the shackle thickness and material
You should add the lock type of every lock in the title, this so that when people buy lock they simply search for the lock type in TVclip watch your video and get better idea of how good the lock is there are buying
Why is this so good tho
I'm not 100% sure I understand the relationship between the nub and the key but if looking at the first rotor helps narrow the possibiltys way down what about looking inside with a scope I'm wondering if u could just set the key right in a few trys
Axially arranged ? Radially surely :-)
Seemed like a decent lock until LPL got his hands on it.
With some improvements, that could be an interesting lock idea.
way over complicated for such a weak lock..
Your voice is so soothing, feels like therapy.
That's a wild mechanism.
So this lock seems to be easier to pick than normal locks, IF you understand how the lock works, and make a special tension tool to pick it.To me that says any skilled picker can pick it, but unskilled pickers can't. So not very different from normal locks, really.The advantage of this lock, is that you can buy many of them, and key them to be identical, and rekey them when and if you want to. And that makes it a very interesting lock to have. In fact, I'd like to buy 10 of them right now, if they're not too expensive.
This exactly. I purchased two of them just after their Kickstarter campaign ended so I could have the same key open the front and the back door and be able to change the combination whenever I see fit. I hide a key set to the wrong combination outside in case I lose my key or I want to let a friend in when I'm not there yet. It's very useful.Being a little bit of a lock picking geek, the locks are nice to play around with and it's a very cool key to have. I love it. Of course, it was better until LPL showed how easy they can be picked but like you said, it might be easy once you take time to analyze and understand how it works and have the custom tools. An unprepared picker with standard tools will have a hard time opening it. He'd be better off getting my hidden dummy key and try the 81 possible combinations once he figured them out, but setting a combination on the key takes at least 15 to 30 seconds with practice, which means an average of at least 15 minutes in frond of the door fiddling around with the key until he gets the good one. That's way more time than needed for the old lady living below to get out with her broomstick to scare the guy off.So yes, the concept could be improved, it's definitely not unpickable, but it's still a way better lock than the typical Kwikset everybody have, with the added advantage of being able to set and change the combination yourself. A great product in my opinion. I'm glad I could get the locks while they were available.
The wide keyway may bring down the possible variations, but only if you have a key. And these locks are not common enough for the common thief.This doesn't change the situation, but realistically speaking it's very unlikely that it will matter.The pick resistance does matter though and this doesn't seem to be very high if you can tension it.Also it doesn't look very beefy, so an destructive attack would be probably the most common way for getting around this lock.
Can someone explain the math for the 1300 -> 81 reduction?
I'm guessing that it comes from decoding whether the slice is pinned to an odd or even angle; if unknown. there are six possibilities per slice, so four slices gives 6**4 = 6*6*6*6 = 1296 possible keys. However, per LPL, inspection ("pin at 12 o'clock position" => even, else odd) can reduce this to only three possibilities per slice, hence 3**4 = 81 total combinations.
I'd never use a lock like this on anything.Never mind what it's locking, I'd be afraid someone would steal the lock!
This seems like a design with plenty of potential. It seems like adding a few more rotors and pins per rotor and some way to shield the keyway that this would be a usefull lock.
so all I have to do is design a lock with a centrifugal spring that binds the case if you dont depress all 4 at the same time?after all you only got 2 hands :-)
I’m wondering. Could you invent a lock that is like this by a combination locker style lock, where the key rotated a certain number of times until each pin is locked into a position? Each segment of the key would rotate freely and must be inserted and rotated like a combination lock. So not only would you have to have it in the correct position you would have to pick the pins. Make it so the pins won’t engage unless they are in the correct position.
I’d love to see him reassemble a lock he takes apart, including the pins, springs etc. I think it’d be neat to watch
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How hard would it be if the tension point was all the way in the back?
As a thought, could this have been made more challenging by moving the tensioning from a notch at the front, to an off-center pin or slot at the very back of the lock? I've never seen that done that I can remember, which suggests that there's a basic problem with it, but I can't put a finger on what it'd be.
Seems like a better idea would have been to have the actual depths of the 6 potions be unique per lock/key, so that it’s truly two factor security - you’d have to have both the key and the combo. That, and much better pick resistance.
Today LPL picks the codex and uncovers the holy grail.
Clever internals, however I can't help but think how vulnerable and exposed that long piece of steel would be to a decent hacksaw. Even if it were locked on something, it still seems like a decent cro-bar / pry-bar could get enough leverage to open it. Quality video,Best Regards
A lock with electric going through it would be good as most tention tools are just metal but the key could be insulated
Drake loves this lock. When you open it, it's got that OvO sound
Interesting looking lock... LPL breaks it in 30 secs... I was like okey not good enough....
69% of the terms used in lock picking are double entendre.
Anyone else get excited when he whipped out that thick 50 thousandths pick?
Oh snap I have one of these and forgot about it. I gotta try this.
Fascinating concept lock.
You mean we as in you got it open
You must love getting locked out of the house
You should travel around the World an pick the Locks from Subscribers that have lost their keys from Locks you never seen before and in real life conditions. 👍
This man is just a God at lock picking
So it is like a combination lock that uses a key.
LPL: need some improvementsLock manufacturer: oh, sh&t, thats a millions of spending
Still available www.ovio.com.tw/pairlock
I’d love to have a short synopsis of how to improve the lock. Maybe not in great detail but just a way to make it harder. An example for this one would be have a guard that blocks view of the pins or something. This may be easier said than done but it could be interesting to see how to improve good locks into great locks
gvid nation Could we afford the consulting fee?
I did a quick search, because you said they may not be sold anymore, and found their website is up and running. $120 for that padlock. Appears to be a Taiwan company. www.ovio.com.tw/ They also have a deadbolt, door handle lock and just the cylinder with a key available. I wonder if any improvements have been made since the model you have came out?
Anyone else want him to crack safes next?
Would you be able to pick the lock on an armored money-transport vehicle? Just curious. You'd have to convince one of those companies to let you try first though, I suppose, and they might not be so keen on the idea.
It’s a very cool idea, you could change the key after locking it so that even if someone stole the key they couldn’t get in. Just a pity that the lock is about as secure as prison cell made of spaghetti.
Sees a time stamp, almost 4min. Must be an ok lock... oh.
Mans house must be impossible to rob