Podcast #129 - PewDiePie, YouTube & The WSJ

  • Published on Feb 19, 2017
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  • Finya Fuxfell
    Finya Fuxfell 7 days ago

    Late to the party but I wanted to share my 2 cents. To be honest, allthough they made a ridiculous situation out of it, I am still angry that Felix even tried to get this message out. Now (I only found this podcast recently) more than ever.
    My family experienced the second world war. Some of them were brave enough to risk their life and hide jews, some have served in the war, some have been in the bunker, praying to survive another attack. One of grandfathers was never able work though it, so he talked about it whenever he could with any person that was here. Some of the people I know refuse to talk about it, even today. There is so much more I could write about the pain that the holocaust left my family with (/the whole world) but I try to make it as short as possible.
    Right now, I am in a country with a lot of ex-servants and it is heartbreaking, to see the pain they are going through.
    I know that Felix was extremely shocked, when he saw that his requests have worked. But it is easy to say afterwards, that it was meant as an experiment/joke. Because that action still hurts, and it makes me angry, that some people won't think things through to see what this could mean to him, his subscribers or anyone else, who has a closer relationship to that topic.

  • Kate Vaughn
    Kate Vaughn 22 days ago

    This is the best 2 hours on TVclip. God damn I love you J & J & PewDiePie ♥️♥️♥️

  • Layla Mae
    Layla Mae 25 days ago

    Why am I watching this in 2019??!

  • TheRussianChild
    TheRussianChild 28 days ago

    That person who wrote that article from buzzfeed bashing Felix sounds like an easily offended feminist who is jealous of Felix’s success.

  • Susanne Glasl
    Susanne Glasl Month ago

    okay its been a long time and you probably won't read this but I would love to hear your 2019 opinion on the matter of PewDiePie with everything that happened since then. have you're opinions changed at all? if so, how and why?
    Id also like to point out that I don't think its a accurate description of the situation to say its "all these giant media outlets against one person" when Felix is so unbelievably ridiculously influential just based on him being the literal biggest TVclip in the world. he has millions and millions of people hanging on his every word with no real accountability. the world has never really seen anything quite like this before so it should be treated according to the magnitude and gravity of what were dealing with here. its not just one random guy on youtube, its PewDiePie the brand, the empire. And as we've seen in Christchurch, his stuff really gets around.
    Love and respect the shit out of you guys always!

  • Somewhtsane
    Somewhtsane Month ago

    I know I'm very late to the conversation here, currently rewatching old JandJ pods, but I find its kind of funny how the point of pewdiepies video was to see how people will do anything for money and then the WSJ and the other media sources took this story and turned it into something massive for profit. Jenna and Julien are right when they said they got the job done and made all their money with clicks by using pewdiepies name. Its kind of just proving his point, people will go to great lengths and will literally try to tear someone down for their own gain.

  • glencarlo_
    glencarlo_ Month ago

    With articles such as this, it's not surprising to see the left get more and more hate. There are always people who veer too much to the right or to the left or any other fuckin direction that people seem to gravitate. Two party systems like in the US proves how it affects not only political systems but also individual ideologies.

  • James McManus
    James McManus Month ago +1

    16:12 boys and men???? That’s fucking sexist! It’s not only “boys and men” that are capable of hate! I hate this reverse sexism thing that keeps going on in today’s society, where people think they’re taking the moral high ground by trying to defend women while bashing men. That is not fighting for equality. Feminism is defined as believing that women should have equal rights to everyone else. This article literally is painting males of all being full of hate.
    Also sorry for the paragraph that no one read I’m just mad 😆

    • James McManus
      James McManus Month ago

      And then saying all men don’t care about rape. Fucking ridiculous.

  • James McManus
    James McManus Month ago +1

    Omg when Jenna gets mad she gets that accent from her old videos. Y’all know what I’m talking is not about?

  • jamless toast
    jamless toast Month ago

    I'm literally at brown liberal LGBT female who loves pewdiepie. I don't think he did anything wrong. Wtf.

  • aangel plushies
    aangel plushies Month ago

    I know it's been a long time since this whole situation hamppened, but I honestly didn't have a grasp on the whole situation until just now watching this podcast. And I totally agree with you guys that the whole situation is fucked, but I'm not at all supprised to see TVclip not stand up for it's creators because it seems so cold and robotic to me, they just follow their rules like running a code and they have no warpth of human compassion behind their actions. Even with their biggest creator they don't seem to even see the situation as a patron but rather viewing Felix as a product.

  • kavya nair
    kavya nair 2 months ago

    i don’t know if it’s weird but i sleep to podcasts that jenna julien rant in

  • JAy Dub
    JAy Dub 2 months ago

    I love you guys. I would like to see an updated video about the live stream and pew using the N word. More than once. Some say slip of the tongue. I call bullshit on this. I am a white woman married to a black man. I don’t care who you are. If you call it a slip of the tongue it’s a word that you use. Period end of story. I don’t care where you grew up and whom ever was using it around you. It’s wrong and it really pissed me off because he is such a huge influencer. It certainly didn’t help him look like he isn’t racist. So yes. It does make it look like he is normalizing hate speech. Whether he is or not. I don’t think it was part an organized way to be a supporter of those hate groups. Yes he said it was inappropriate to say it. Still it’s not ok. Also he could have used millions of different things to get his point across in that joke without using the all Jews must die. Very poor taste. I didn’t find it funny. I am glad that you addressed all of the stuff going on with the wall street journal and everything you covered in this podcast. The N word happened later. Still an updated video would be great.

  • Jimin's pinky
    Jimin's pinky 2 months ago

    57:30 explains why pewds has no legs

  • Uppaw
    Uppaw 3 months ago +5

    The background is Sweden lol

  • Adeline D
    Adeline D 3 months ago

    idk how to feel about this. the joke (imo) was kinda dumb and i don't fuck with nazi jokes, but clearly it was a joke and was taken out of context. i don't love his stuff, but i think the media took it too far. he's not a LITERAL nazi, just a guy who made some dumb jokes.

  • Ace Morow
    Ace Morow 3 months ago +2

    so disappointed that my favorite youtubers support someone who has repeatedly made anti-semitic jokes and then "apologized" for them. apologizing for being discriminatory and then continuing to behave like that.... it truly throws the validity and sincerity of the apology out the window. deeply hurt that the people i trusted most on this platform support somebody like him

    • Casey Alexander
      Casey Alexander 3 months ago +3

      I'm concerned that you didn't hear a single word she said.
      your opinion is valid and so is her's

  • theredsasosin
    theredsasosin 3 months ago

    I have and always will stand with you guys, Felix, Phil and anyone who wants to share their opinions and their voice. It is a fundamental American right and the fact that corporate America is trying to silence that is terrifying.
    Love you guys and am proud to be part of the Dink Fam! 💜

  • martojacinto
    martojacinto 4 months ago +1

    53 million lol

  • Jade Retro
    Jade Retro 4 months ago +1

    You guys rock and I'm glad you tell it like it is

  • Pagten EIE
    Pagten EIE 4 months ago

    I just watched a reupload of the video and then a video by pewdiepie reading articles and talking about it. I understand it was made as a joke and that halfhearted people working for WSJ doing just this kind of shit, is not just mindblowing in my opinion, but I also don't understand. Another thing I don't understand, is that fiverr wasn't touched at all (I haven't read all the articles, though). The sellers on the website should have known that the request by Felix might have been considered a violation of the terms of service. Felix did not deserve this kind of treatment and the sellers should not have been let go without any consequences

    • martojacinto
      martojacinto 4 months ago

      Pagten EIE That’s because like Jenna said it wasn’t about the joke or the fiverr thing they wanted to hurt the platform and creators.

  • Sofia Salazar
    Sofia Salazar 4 months ago

    I appreciate how you guys always make sure whatever you say is well thought out. Thank you for being the backbone of TVclip🖤🖤

  • Klára
    Klára 4 months ago +1

    Catching up on older podcasts. I have so much respect for you guys.

  • Hope Mackenzie Frey
    Hope Mackenzie Frey 5 months ago

    What a great decision I’ve made to watch this video at 2am when I have to get up at 6am and also have an anxiety disorder and an obsessive personality disorder. All nighter, anyone?

  • Jayde Hall
    Jayde Hall 5 months ago

    One thing that shows how much the BuzzFeed people do not know about PewDiePie is that he isn't even American. I don't follow him and I know he is Swedish and doesn't even live in the US! All those older generation people that idolize people like Elvis who was a drug using wife abuser, don't realize how big Generation Z is. As soon as we are old enough to vote and work watch out Silent Generation, Baby Boomers, Lost Generation, and Millennials, Gen Z is already known for actually fixing problems instead of whining about them. We have fricken college students building affordable electric cars that they refuse to sell to car companies, because we know that car companies have a rediculous monopoly supported by the government over the auto market. Middle schoolers inventing safe classroom solutions for not only school shootings but natural disasters. Many educators who have written books about this generation coming up is that, they won't stand for the way things are and will refuse ignore issues that others generations have. They will be change agents supported by themselves and fellow Gen Z's. We have less sex under age, do less drugs, less drinking under age, and participate in less crime. They are just afraid.

  • caitolent
    caitolent 5 months ago

    Never seen Jenna so mad. I'm glad she and Julien chose this cause to champion. Good for both of you.

  • Cameron Andrews
    Cameron Andrews 5 months ago +4

    I don’t think we should be selectively outraged about situations. We want to be on the side of the creator in this situation, but when it comes to Logan Pauls situation, the blame is placed on him. No, I’m not defending Logan, I’m glad he faced criticism. But why isn’t it okay for PDP to face criticism? The news coverage is so bad/wrong with PDP but the news coverage for Logan is okay. I don’t get it, sorry.

  • just a cup of tea
    just a cup of tea 5 months ago

    rita skeeter has entered the chat

  • Thurzatuhl
    Thurzatuhl 5 months ago +1

    Maybe y'all should take this down now

    • Thurzatuhl
      Thurzatuhl 3 months ago

      @Kennedy Smith Worse. His channel served as the focal point of white nationalists who supported the shooter. The shooter's last words were "subscribe to pewdiepie."

    • Kennedy Smith
      Kennedy Smith 3 months ago

      Thurzatuhl did he make a joke about it

    • Thurzatuhl
      Thurzatuhl 3 months ago

      @Kennedy Smith The Christchurch Massacre

    • Kennedy Smith
      Kennedy Smith 3 months ago

      Thurzatuhl why

  • lala3s3
    lala3s3 6 months ago +3

    Rewatching this video and hearing julien say pewdiepie has 53million subcribers is everything 🤣😂 given that he's at 90 million subscribers lol 🤣😂 clearly he has stayed more relevant than the media!

  • Abigail Nagy
    Abigail Nagy 6 months ago

    I agree. The media attacking and coming out like this was absolutely ridiculous and out of line. No understanding of the internet culture clearly did them dirty. On the other hand, in hindsight, I'm not inclined to believe it truly was a joke, considering what has followed since. Racial slurs during livestreams, incredibly insensitive tweets about a woman suffering from drug addiction, and called another woman a crybaby for talking about the subscriber gap from male TVcliprs to female TVcliprs, because he misunderstood what she was trying to say. All of this weakens his apology then and makes it seem less sincere

  • A Wal
    A Wal 6 months ago

    Ok so this is old BUT this was the worst thing the traditional media could do for their brand. I believe in freedom of the press but this was blatant lies. This is why people like trump can discredit the media because the media took felix’ video completely out of context. It makes me angry because there are journalists who are doing real good work and the wsj just fucks it up big time. You want more people like trump? You got it.

  • Cammy Ivy
    Cammy Ivy 6 months ago +3

    Now that the shooting in New Zealand just happened, just waiting for you guys to have a view on it

  • Angel He
    Angel He 6 months ago +2

    I know I’m watching this late, but the fact that all this even happened and that even a few years later that neither Disney or TVclip put down their pride to apologize to PewDiePie is ridiculous. He’s been through so much and worked so hard to get where he is right now. His influence on the TVclip platform is incredible and I really hope he holds his place as most subscribed because he really deserves it.

  • Mia Fine
    Mia Fine 6 months ago +3

    I hear you, really do. But I can’t ever be ok with what Felix did. The holocaust and anti-semitism isn’t a joke, nor should it ever be. We lost family to the Nazis, my Grandmother lost some of her siblings, and family. Her husband lost all 10 toes hiding in the snow from the Nazis. She was separated from her sister. Her mother lost children, they were murdered. My grandmother survived 2 concentration camps and a death march. Billions of people didn’t.

  • Sarah . Just Sarah
    Sarah . Just Sarah 7 months ago +2

    Jenna is so protective of my integrity as a viewer. She has reached mom level over millions of people. I trust her, even though I've never met her. How many other people can you say that about?

  • Mary McCartney
    Mary McCartney 7 months ago

    I love how throughout this podcast you just watch pewdiepie's subscriber count go up.

  • Blake Ritchie
    Blake Ritchie 7 months ago

    I really wanna see a video where you both react to your first video! I can't find Jenna's first, and I love watching people react to their old stuff 😂

  • Mariposa Allebasi
    Mariposa Allebasi 8 months ago

    This is almost two years old, but I'm so glad I've got to hear such an intelligent stance on this situation. Absolutely thankful for Felix, and Jenna! Same with Julien.

  • pooj
    pooj 8 months ago

    I hereby dub Jenna and Julien as part of the 9 yo army 😎😎👊👊

  • Royalti
    Royalti 8 months ago

    It was a risky and wrong joke but I still love him 🤦🏽‍♀️ I know I’m late

  • ZapZee
    ZapZee 8 months ago

    i just love jenna and julien!!! i think its great that the youtube queen adresse these matters. you guys have no obligation to do so, but you do. even though you dont associate (from what i know of) with felix really, but you stand up for him. so thank you jenna and julien. you guys are the best

  • KayLee Blazka
    KayLee Blazka 8 months ago

    Julien-Nature box probly better than any snack that you are eating right now
    Me-Shoves spoon full of ice cream into my mouth
    Also me-Ur probly right lol

  • Natalie Gavin
    Natalie Gavin 8 months ago

    felix didn’t actually tell the fake jesus to say that

  • Kathy Tran
    Kathy Tran 8 months ago

    I know this is a year late but I started binge-watching from the pilot episode lol. Anyways, wow. Back when Felix had 53 mil, now we’re at 78 mil. And I lost it when Julien pulled up his socialblade subscriber count

  • Rachel
    Rachel 8 months ago +1

    Did everyone defending PewdiePie defend Roseanne the same way? Just curious.

  • lannadelarosa
    lannadelarosa 8 months ago +1

    Oh man. Look into who Sargon of Akkad before name dropping his podcast. He’s a blatant Nazi sympathizer, so of course he is defending any anti-semitism that he sees, including Pewdiepie. That dude laughed at Heather Hayers death and spread many lies directly provided to him from the Neo-Nazis that rallied in Charlottesville. He does shit like that all the time. Don’t listen to that dude, let alone use him as a source. Gross.

  • busridetohell
    busridetohell 9 months ago

    A year later, and I still love this break-down so much! What an awesome and smart person Jenna is. :)

  • Your friendly Cynic
    Your friendly Cynic 9 months ago

    “knock knock-“
    “oh you degenerate! i don’t even have a door at home, how dare you mock poverty? there are millions of kids who don’t have doors!”

  • Your friendly Cynic
    Your friendly Cynic 9 months ago

    everyone who likes felix is a white middle class or above straight males.
    i wish.

  • Restless Melody
    Restless Melody 9 months ago

    after hearing Felix being attacked once again by the media at the end of 2018 I had to go back and watch this amazing podcast from early 2017. I feel so bad that he has had to deal with all this bullshit the last 2 years when he does not deserve this sort of backlash whatsoever. Felix is so smart, genuine, hardworking, and a kind hearted person. Anyone who watches a few of his videos can see this, you don’t have to be someone whose watched him since 2012 like i have to understand this. I am not a Pewdiepie fan girl but I appreciate his hard work and humorous content. The media tries to destroy his career and livelihood after not even being clever enough to understand a simple joke they took completely out of context and changed what the joke was really about. Their headlines are ridiculous, their “research” proves they have no idea what they’re talking about and have never watched an actual video of Felix’s, and that they are completely fine with not posting logic, truth, and factual evidence which they are supposed to stand for with being news outlets. This just proves they aren’t doing their jobs, they aren’t being ethical, and not acting as journalists should, it’s disgusting. Felix does not deserve hate for literally doing nothing but making a joke that complete morons can’t understand the meaning behind because they are so closed minded and only listen to hot topic words without paying attention to context at all. Going back to this incident with Fivver, the point behind the video was that Felix knew the Jew jokes were wrong, he knew that those statements were wrong, that’s why he did the experiment, to see will people be okay with putting up this kind of speech just to make a quick $5 and they did. Felix could have picked any kind of hate speech for this joke it doesn’t reflect his views at all, the point was to see what are people ok with saying/putting out to the world if it means they get money for it, that was the joke. You can’t be offended by Felix for that because he’s not agreeing to the statements he sent to Fivver, he agrees they’re wrong and that’s why he chose those statements to see if those on Fivver would take the money or not agree to to the job. The fact that the media attacks Felix’s integrity constantly and over exaggerates everything he does that is controversial and blows it out of proportion and refuses to actually do their job as journalists and wrongfully try and destroy a man’s livelihood is incredibly frustrating. Not to mention the same day he had a fundraiser to raise money for kids while he was growing in subscribers (he’s donated to charity and held fundraisers in the past as well), the media ignored this good hearted and good willed gesture to continue to slander him even more. It’s disgusting, and I am disappointed that he is getting to this day ridiculous and uncalled for punishment for nothing especially when comparing to someone like Logan Paul who posted the worst video that’s ever been uploaded by a TVclipr who to be fair got destroyed by the media which he actually deserved, but only had to deal with punishment with TVclip for months before getting monetized and his TVclip Red show back, which Felix still hasn’t gotten. It’s fucking ridiculous. I doubt anyone will read this after this video has been out for almost 2 years and I wrote so much, but I just wish more people would do the right thing and stand up for Felix and not be afraid to speak for what’s right for fear of wrongful media backlash. I’d also like to hear Jenna&Julien to talk more about him as this continues to go on, he needs more creators to be by his side and show they support him.

  • Meghan Delaune
    Meghan Delaune 9 months ago +1

    I’ll bet you guys were called racist, homophobic members of the alt-right. I’d bet money you were called bullshit just because you believe in free speech and don’t support some liberal literature. Fucking sad if you have.

    • Miles Evangelista
      Miles Evangelista 9 months ago

      @Meghan Delaune my point was that they don't say racist or hateful things just because they technically can, they never had backlashes because they are mature people.

    • Meghan Delaune
      Meghan Delaune 9 months ago

      Miles Evangelista you can’t use free speech as a “shield” 💀 free speech is literally just that. all speech is protected unless it incites violence, and being hateful or offensive doesn’t incite violence. free speech is not a shield it’s a basic human right that you won’t be able to take away just because it may hurt your feelings at times.

    • Miles Evangelista
      Miles Evangelista 9 months ago +2

      that never happened, sustaining free speech and using it as a shield to say racists and homophobic stuff, they are two different things.

  • Hannah
    Hannah 10 months ago +5

    I think the only thing that really bothers me about this discussion is the thing about free speech. Freedom of speech, in the US, only means you cant face legal repercussions for what you say. TVclip is a business, and they can do whatever they want with the accounts of the people who choose to use their platform. Getting your channel deleted or demonitized isn't an infringement of your rights. In a lot of states you can be fired from your regular job for sharing your views online. If you do/say something youtube doesn't agree with, they can get rid of you. If you dont like that, you'll have to use a different platform. I dont necessarily disagree with that, but I'm glad they havent gone the route of deleting anyone who offends the public. I think it's in youtube's best interest to not censor people's opinions. BUT it's a youtuber's choice to use TVclip, so if you don't like what they're doing you can do your thing on another website. I dont think theres anything morally wrong with a website/business moderating their content to upkeep a certain image even if I dont agree with that image.

  • Jessica Darling
    Jessica Darling 10 months ago

    The “nazis downfall” is now at 70M. Love that. I literally feel Jenna in this video even a year later.

  • TheRussianChild
    TheRussianChild 10 months ago +1

    A. Did Felix think about or know the backlash he was going to get?
    B. Did he think about his actions and their consequences?
    C. His joke is you can do whatever you want on the app.
    D. He is the most subscribed to youtuber on TVclip. My thought is did he realize what he was doing was offensive? Even if it was a joke, people are always going to get offended, BUT joking about Hitler and what he had done to Europe and Jews is absolutely not okay in my book. I don't think he made the right choice on doing that. COME FOR ME BITCHES! I WANNA HEAR YOUR HATE ON ME!

    • Jazzy422
      Jazzy422 6 months ago

      So many people joked and still joke about Hitler now, he was basically a meme. Its something real people joke about. Real people are "offensive "

  • Emma B
    Emma B 10 months ago

    Okay i have a lot of opinions on this but im not even going to write them down because it would take a month because i am SO MAD
    (Not at Felix just to clarify)

  • Lexi MacNeil
    Lexi MacNeil 10 months ago +1

    Peep the green screen woman in the lower right hand corner

  • Rahell Hamarash
    Rahell Hamarash 10 months ago +2

    Anyone 2089

  • Cydea
    Cydea 10 months ago

    this is one of your best podcast/videos. thank you.

  • Chelle Shocked
    Chelle Shocked 10 months ago

    This whole video is amazing. Well done you guys. I have such an amazing amount of respect for you both.