Batman's Village of Fools: Gotham, England

  • Published on Dec 4, 2017
  • There's a link from a 13th century legend, to a 16th century insult book, to a 19th century writer, to a 20th century comic book hero. And it starts in a small village near Nottingham, in the time of Robin Hood. Here's why Batman comes from Gotham City.
    (I am reliably assured that the modern-people of Gotham are not, in fact, fools.)
    Many versions of the Merry Tales were printed: the earliest reference I can find a reference to is 1540 here: www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_legends/england/nottingham/article_1.shtml
    Furnivall (1870), "The fyrst boke of the introduction of knowledge made by Andrew Borde, of physycke doctor. A compendyous regyment; or, A dyetary of helth made in Mountpyllier", is available here: archive.org/details/fyrstbokeofintro00boorrich
    The Bill Finger phone-book story is found in multiple places, but I'm quoting Steranko's "History of Comics" p44 (admittedly as referenced in Wikipedia, I didn't have time to track down the original).
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Comments • 697

  • Tom Scott
    Tom Scott  2 months ago +1357

    This might be the least flattering angle I've been filmed from in a long time, and there's no-one to blame but myself. Feels right to be out doing solo videos again, though.

    • gorillaau
      gorillaau Month ago

      Tom Scott That is awesome. I wondered where the same name from. Origin of Gotham is better than Batman's. Thanks for the video.

    • RadioShackRobot
      RadioShackRobot 2 months ago +1

      Tom Scott, shoosh. You're always flattering.

    • Joseph Ralston
      Joseph Ralston 2 months ago +2

      It didn't bother me in the least. I honestly didn't notice until I read your comment. Great video.

    • pixel girl
      pixel girl 2 months ago +1

      Holy harsh lighting, Batman!

    • OblivionFall
      OblivionFall 2 months ago +2

      You look great, dude! I don't see a problem at all :P

  • I'm Recording That
    I'm Recording That 9 days ago

    Live just up the road from there. As I think you said you're from the same town as me? Mansfield

  • J Lee
    J Lee 17 days ago

    Dude, you're going bald.

  • Luke BS
    Luke BS 19 days ago

    current fav youtuber

  • Mirza Ahmed
    Mirza Ahmed Month ago

    So these people were the original NIMBYs?

  • Jack Kraken
    Jack Kraken Month ago

    Oh so that might explain why that guy who is in power now acts like a ....... he is trolling us all!

  • Danny Morgan
    Danny Morgan Month ago +1

    This is basically the story of Brexit, with the villagers being the UK and the King being the EU "hierarchy" - think about it (whether you agree or not)

  • Breandan Downey
    Breandan Downey Month ago

    Really, because I thought that Gotham was the name of another comic book city that Bill Finger decided to use, because back then, plagiarism was not considered a crime.

  • Chicken Face
    Chicken Face Month ago

    Wouldn't that encourage the king to purge them?

  • Peacedust inc.
    Peacedust inc. Month ago

    The king might catch the sillies!!

  • Jacob Griffin
    Jacob Griffin Month ago

    There's a link from a 12th century church, to a 17th century water conduit, to a 20th century used car company.

  • Faster Hacker
    Faster Hacker Month ago

    There is a province in turkey called Batman. Don't ask why.

  • Carl Witt
    Carl Witt Month ago

    Have we found the source of all polak jokes??

  • Derek West
    Derek West Month ago

    what a brilliant little story

  • Michelle M
    Michelle M Month ago

    The Butterfly effect ?
    Also TOM, you’re gorgeous!

  • Jack Christmas
    Jack Christmas 2 months ago

    I really like these kinds of stories. Be it Harold Bluetooth, the secret post-nuclear strike order on British submarines, Operation Mincemeat, unexploded bombs off the British coast or the illegal burning of that Christmas goat in Sweden (I think this year it is still in one piece :) to just name a few of my favorites. Thanks for all of these and many more interesting videos.

  • Alevamltd
    Alevamltd 2 months ago

    Heres another fun fact: Arkham Asylum is named after the the rural town of Arkham from H.P. Lovecraft's "The Colour out of Space"

  • Daniel Leonard
    Daniel Leonard 2 months ago

    The story with the Cuckoo was originally about a villiage called Wing in rutland. The locals saw the Cuckoo left at the end of summer and winter came. So by building a fence around the Cuckoo they could keep summer all year round.

  • Sumnusson
    Sumnusson 2 months ago

    Tom always has such amazing content

  • Tayler Dust
    Tayler Dust 2 months ago

    In Denmark we have the same with Aarhus, and we have jokes like "Whats written on the bottom of Aarhusianeres bottles?" "Open on the other side" (Aarhusianer is the name of the people living in Aarhus)

  • Eric Minecire
    Eric Minecire 2 months ago

    we flew a kite in a public place

  • Martin Langstrumpf
    Martin Langstrumpf 2 months ago

    would you please make a video about Zalgo texts. why they exist and how they manage to go over multiple lines? what was the original purpose of it?

  • kairon156
    kairon156 2 months ago

    That's just crazy. Batman without Gotham City.

  • Jamie Spong
    Jamie Spong 2 months ago

    Now do a video on Batman Close in London.

  • Jay Custodio
    Jay Custodio 2 months ago

    I love your videos because we both like studying and plus that story is very nice send more videos I am a fan

  • Sergal Hixantapo
    Sergal Hixantapo 2 months ago

    that was deep...feels all warm and fuzzy~

  • macronencer
    macronencer 2 months ago

    Another wonderfully engaging story, Tom. Thank you!

  • Revi M Fadli
    Revi M Fadli 2 months ago

    Maybe Flashpoint was caused by Flash's shockwaves hitting that phonebook

  • ScytheNoire
    ScytheNoire 2 months ago

    Props for stating Batman's proper creative mind, Bill Finger.

  • MrBgklug
    MrBgklug 2 months ago

    This assumes the shop in the phone book used the name Gotham because of the writer?

  • capitanosmaw
    capitanosmaw 2 months ago

    Doctor Who needs a 13th century Gotham episode.

  • Fleurs de Lilas
    Fleurs de Lilas 2 months ago

    where deos he come up with those things? I'm amazed!

  • Julian Danzer
    Julian Danzer 2 months ago

    fools? you mean..
    jokers
    yeah I know it was bad, but someone hadto do it :P

  • the.abhiram.r
    the.abhiram.r 2 months ago

    I'm disappointed in your Thomas, only #105 on trending it should be #1 like your other videos



    Sorry if im off I haven't seen youtube in like 7 days

  • LukeOfTroy
    LukeOfTroy 2 months ago

    God home?

  • rxbs163
    rxbs163 2 months ago

    So good. Tom!

  • Warboss Grimdakka
    Warboss Grimdakka 2 months ago

    Hold on. Is this near Nottingham? If so I've definetely seen the sign for the place and remember laughing about it as a kid. I never raised hoe close I was

  • ViridianIsland
    ViridianIsland 2 months ago

    After finishing this video read this. Tom is right, the chain of events leading up to the conception of Gotham City is remarkable. But the truth is, this happens all the time. The "Butterfly Effect" is always active; small changes in the past make big changes in the present. This is also true now, small decisions you make day-to-day can and will effect you in massively in the future. Always think, be decisive, and live every day as best you can.

  • Alice Gray
    Alice Gray 2 months ago

    I just love you(r videos) so much!

  • Henriette Flensborg
    Henriette Flensborg 2 months ago

    That really was a thing I did not know! The tales (like trying to kill an eel by drowning it) sounds a lot like the stories we have in Denmark, called “Molbo” stories. I wonder if every country has their own Molbo/Gotham stories.

    • Henriette Flensborg
      Henriette Flensborg 2 months ago

      I just googled it and they do mention Molbo stories as being like the Gotham stories, ha! That’s awesome.

  • Sam Tait
    Sam Tait 2 months ago

    I live not far from here and never heard of these tales, I’ve no idea if they are wise or mad these days should I avoid the village?

  • auntieslapscake
    auntieslapscake 2 months ago

    I love your solo videos.... good job...

  • Uli Uchu
    Uli Uchu 2 months ago

    In germany there is Schilda with pretty similar storys about its "Schildbürger"

  • klutterkicker
    klutterkicker 2 months ago

    I aslways assumed it was a play on the word "Gothic."

  • oo0Spyder0oo
    oo0Spyder0oo 2 months ago

    How ironic, they won't say herb with a H but add do when it's a silent one in Gotham.

  • Random Experiments Int. - Experiments and syntheses

    What an interesting story! Nice video! :)

  • Michael King
    Michael King 2 months ago

    This sounds like the Yiddish folklore town of Chelm

  • NoriMori
    NoriMori 2 months ago

    "In Victorian England, a commoner was not allowed to look directly at the queen, due to a belief at the time that the poor had the ability to steal thoughts. Science now believes that less than 4% of poor people are able to do this."

  • Cholloway01
    Cholloway01 2 months ago

    Pewdiepie plugged you....

  • silhouette
    silhouette 2 months ago

    I think this is my fave video you've ever done! Awesome :D

  • griff7533
    griff7533 2 months ago

    That’s a great story! Nice video!

  • April Pickens
    April Pickens 2 months ago

    Where do you find a guy as intelligent and informative as Tom. 🤔

  • Elan Cook
    Elan Cook 2 months ago

    The opening joke made both of my coworkers laugh

  • JaCee Music
    JaCee Music 2 months ago

    Kool! Thanks, Tom!

  • Jim Lehmann
    Jim Lehmann 2 months ago

    James Burke did a series about these kinds of connections. It was called "Connections".
    There's probably a way I could have said that without repeating the same word twice.

  • kuraz
    kuraz 2 months ago

    got ham?

  • Christian Ferrius Tvilling

    We have the exact same type of stories, about a certain town in Denmark and the people who live there. "Molbo".
    Seems to be a universal thing, to ridicule a town, city, or area of your country ^^ @enyay

  • Josh Hyland
    Josh Hyland 2 months ago

    Hello Tom, do you consider the concept of the carbon footprint to have any merit? If so, how do you offset your air travel?

  • Sg Kingly
    Sg Kingly 2 months ago

    That was interesting and I certainly did not know that.

  • nfayers1986
    nfayers1986 2 months ago

    ...and this is also why Gotham is constantly having to replace its town sign due to thieves. possibly drunken thieves. probably student thieves.

  • Elmo
    Elmo 2 months ago

    "Batman would live somewhere", eh more than likely but not necessarily so

  • therese294776
    therese294776 2 months ago

    Seriously? They chose the name 'Gotham' at random?! Here I was, thinking that the choice of name was some sort of deep and insightful statement about the people of the city and their relationship with/attitude towards Batman, a commentary on the wider phenomenon of superheroes and the people who need them (or think that they do) thus allowing them to go on existing and functioning as such, an open-ended question about whether the people of Gotham are wise or foolish to treat Batman the way that they do, inviting the audience to reflect on the ways in which similar dynamics might exist and play out in the real world... but no. DISAPPOINTMENT.

  • JamieJamez
    JamieJamez 2 months ago

    Tom turned into James Burke so gradually I didn't even notice.

  • Pogla The Grate
    Pogla The Grate 2 months ago

    There's a federal electorate in a called Batman (pronounced Bate men or Bat m'n) named after the original purchaser of Port Phillip.
    The seat was held by the Shadow Minister for Justice

  • FrozenLavaDragonProd
    FrozenLavaDragonProd 2 months ago

    Funny thing is, Gotham is in New Jersey in some of the comics.

  • DR S
    DR S 2 months ago

    I suppose this is what you call a "Butterfly Effect" :P

  • Andy Lundell
    Andy Lundell 2 months ago

    Is this video using a different stabilization algorithm then in the olden days of Scott's handheld videos? The way the buildings in the background are ... sort of sloshing around, was really distracting to me. Am I the only one?

  • MrHEC381991
    MrHEC381991 2 months ago

    Things that make you go hmmm.

  • Falcarious
    Falcarious 2 months ago

    Does the fact that the Joker is called such have anything to do with the history of Gotham? The Joker is a madman who may seem daft in some instances, but is really quite smart, just as the "madmen" of Gotham were seen as fools, but in fact outsmarted the king.

  • David Vermillion
    David Vermillion 2 months ago

    what about Batman, turkey

  • Eamonn
    Eamonn 2 months ago +1

    Brilliant!

  • xzonia1
    xzonia1 2 months ago

  • MrValdez
    MrValdez 2 months ago

    2:23. It's Adam West Batman. Gotham have good taste

  • sion8
    sion8 2 months ago

    Quick stop any foolish time travels from renaming…

  • [sic]
    [sic] 2 months ago

    Intriguing that insanity features heavily in both Gothams.

  • Evan Davis
    Evan Davis 2 months ago

    This would explain why Batman's city is full of raving lunatics.

  • Anthony Houghton
    Anthony Houghton 2 months ago

    Reminds me of the stories the people of Devizes in Wiltshire, used to tell about the inhabitants of the nearby village of Bishops Cannings.
    Most famously, of course, the tale of the Moonrakers, who were caught by the revenue men trying to rake some barrels of contraband brandy out of the local pond, the Crammer. When asked what they were doing they pointed to the reflection of the full moon, and told the customs men that they were trying to rake a big old cheese out of the pond.
    Probably apocryphal, but one that is definitely true is the tale of the Bishop Cannings marching band base drum. The drummer decided to build a new drum in his front bedroom, but then found that is was too big for him to get it out of the house. The band were thus reduced to marching up and down the street outside his house as he stood at the window beating out time. The drum still exists, and was in Devizes Museum last time I went there.
    Less likely to be true is the tale of the church spires. Bishops Cannings Church has a mighty fine spire and a tiny one in the corner next to it housing the circular staircase. The story goes that one of the churchwardens wanted to grow the little spire to be as big as the main one, so he hauled a young calf up to the top of the tower in the hope that its manure would cause the little spire to grow. Every day he would take hay up to the top of the tower, and spread the manure round the base of the small spire. Of course it didn't grow, but the cow did, and soon there was no way to get it back down. The cow apparently lived out the rest of its life up there, and grass started growing all round the base of the spire.

  • Larry O'Bama
    Larry O'Bama 2 months ago

    A guy wearing a mask and cape who spent his life imitating bats would have fit right in.

  • Doktor McNasty
    Doktor McNasty 2 months ago

    Hah!

  • Johann Sebastian Bach
    Johann Sebastian Bach 2 months ago

    Ah yes!

  • Jason Judge
    Jason Judge 2 months ago

    You'll be putting James Burke out of a job with connections like this. Love it.

  • Stray03
    Stray03 2 months ago

    You would like the series "connections" and connections 3.

  • Joeink100
    Joeink100 2 months ago

    I live near there

  • nitehawk86
    nitehawk86 2 months ago

    I bet Tom was a fan of James Burke's Connections. Loved seeing that show and its successors on PBS as a kid. This video reminds me of the show.

  • UltraPrimal
    UltraPrimal 2 months ago

    2:30 He'd live in Canada. No, wait. That's Superman I'm thinking of.

  • AdamN
    AdamN 2 months ago

    having driven past the signs for Gotham many times, I had often wondered if there was any connection to Batman or not, but couldn't have imagined it went so far back!

  • Foultone84
    Foultone84 2 months ago

    Very interesting. Thank you
    Love from Sweden

  • TheBushdoctor68
    TheBushdoctor68 2 months ago

    Nice. :)
    There's also a city called Batman btw. In Turkey I think..

  • country farmer
    country farmer 2 months ago

    so /this is where batman came from.

  • preachffxi
    preachffxi 2 months ago

    It's because of penguins that decided to not go instinct just before the movie came out. The Penguin wouldn't have existed would've had been regular name like Charles etc... Thanks penguins !!!

  • Nicu Irimia
    Nicu Irimia 2 months ago

    story sells

  • Nimmo1492
    Nimmo1492 2 months ago

    Finally a place I know! I went to school in Gotham.

  • dirm12
    dirm12 2 months ago

    Interesting history but I find your conclusion... underwhelming :P

  • Sari Al Shammari
    Sari Al Shammari 2 months ago

    That's neat

  • stephenrgow
    stephenrgow 2 months ago

    "We're gonna build a hunting lodge, it will be a great hunting lodge, and we will make Gotham pay for it!"

  • Jinzo Okami
    Jinzo Okami 2 months ago

    from thrown shade in the 16th century, to providing shade for the batman in 20th.
    life's weird, eh?

  • boiled frog
    boiled frog 2 months ago

    england is my city

  • Hiramas
    Hiramas 2 months ago

    We have similar stories in Germany, they are called the Schildbürger, Citizens of the fictitious town of Schilda. When the price for salt got too high for them, they salted the earth around their town so they could harvest whatever plant the salt grew from. And there are many other stories.

  • Victor Rosario
    Victor Rosario 2 months ago

    This reminds me of Connections by James Burke.

  • Titans JoJo
    Titans JoJo 2 months ago +1

    OG Trolls