Starting a franchise around LeBron or KD would be ridiculous - Max Kellerman | First Take

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  • Published on Aug 30, 2019
  • Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman debate where LeBron James and Kevin Durant should rank on a list of the best players to build an NBA franchise around.
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  • NeoMicy
    NeoMicy 2 days ago

    Lebron always leave burned earth and KD is very bitchy. I wouldnt take either of them to start my team also the age.

  • Syne Onez
    Syne Onez 2 days ago

    Luka shouldn't be number 2 but I would say top 5. SAS straight disrespectful 😂

  • Lil Chromosome
    Lil Chromosome 5 days ago

    MOLLY SHUT UP

  • Mike Uzumaki
    Mike Uzumaki 6 days ago

    Max is right on this...age should be part of it....sorry SAS

  • Higher Levels
    Higher Levels 9 days ago

    shut up Molly

  • Kent Ruaya
    Kent Ruaya 13 days ago

    Such an ageist 😂

  • Fishbowl
    Fishbowl 13 days ago

    You think their opinions are for sale? Just saying...

  • Jm Doronila
    Jm Doronila 18 days ago

    If you want to start a franchise pick a superstar who's not afraid to get things done as well as a superstar who's unselfish
    Attitude is one of the most important things when you're a leader of a team

  • Robert Rucker
    Robert Rucker 21 day ago

    Stephen A's " For crying out loud comments" are epic.

  • Francesco Chierchia
    Francesco Chierchia 22 days ago

    I pick kawhi above all everyday...

  • Cedric Page
    Cedric Page 22 days ago

    harden shouldn't be on the list but he gets to Houston and hasn't missed the playoffs yet but AD belongs on the list, a guy who has been to the playoffs what 2 times I think

  • Pewdiepie 1
    Pewdiepie 1 23 days ago

    It’s kinda sad how lebron s career is almost over

  • Jaden Vergara
    Jaden Vergara 23 days ago

    Start a franchise with Russ 🤣

  • Dootha Browne
    Dootha Browne 24 days ago

    Who do U Build A franchise with Now Stephen A? U have to take age into account

  • W Oo K
    W Oo K 24 days ago +1

    Luka Doncic???? I hate the hype this kid has he has individual skill but couldn’t even take his team to the playoffs💀

  • justasportsfan 101
    justasportsfan 101 28 days ago

    Lebron James is a joke.

  • His Majesty
    His Majesty 28 days ago

    Kyrie ain't make the list lol

  • Hiyajo Maho
    Hiyajo Maho Month ago

    1. Kawhi - last season proved that he's #1. He was slapped on that Toronto team as a 1-year rental and instantly turned them into champions. No further explanation needed.

    2. Curry - GSW build a dynasty around this man for crying out loud. A superstar with zero ego and plays on or off the ball at an elite level, making him a great fit for any team and any system.

    3. Giannis - already an MVP and he hasn't even hit his prime yet.

    4. Jokic - most people would laugh at this but this guy turned Denver a serious contender without another all-star player on his team. Imagine the possibilities if the management gave him at least one all-star teammate.

    5. Harden - I don't like his playing style tbh but you can't argue with the numbers. He can singlehandedly keep a mediocre team afloat with his individual talent alone. He would've won at least one championship already if the Warriors didn't exist.

  • TOF
    TOF Month ago

    Why is zion on this list already?

  • travis collins
    travis collins Month ago

    Jokic top 5

  • Chris Vince
    Chris Vince Month ago +1

    I dont think Stephan A understood the concept here...

  • Franklin Evans
    Franklin Evans Month ago

    How old people call someone the same age as them old men

  • Jags904
    Jags904 Month ago +1

    Ppl sayin KD not gone be KD whn he come back dont know KD game

  • Kevin Masters
    Kevin Masters Month ago +1

    This is stupid, LeBron is 35 old as fark has 2-3 years left before he's gone. KD is 31 so again getting too old to start a franchise.

  • Sime Petrusevski
    Sime Petrusevski Month ago

    Kinda agree with him. KD atm has an achilles injury that doesn't guarantee he will come back the same guy he was. And LeBron is 34 he has 2-3 good seasons left.

  • nabil chowdhury
    nabil chowdhury Month ago +1

    Giannis was neutralized but averaged 23-15-6 on 47%fg

  • Anthony Beidelman
    Anthony Beidelman Month ago

    Tom Brady just won back to back super bowls? No, they haven't since 2004-2005

  • BlasterGamore
    BlasterGamore Month ago

    Age is one of the most important things to choose a starting franchise player

  • tracy williams
    tracy williams Month ago

    Fouled for passing gas 🤣🤣🤣

  • nella teea
    nella teea Month ago

    this show need more women :)

  • Link Chan
    Link Chan Month ago

    Zion freaking Williamson is on this list with all the great allstars players? Come on......... Windhorst come on bruh........

  • Michel
    Michel Month ago

    Max is packed!

  • Celab Williams
    Celab Williams Month ago

    Lebron is a generational talent that’s it. His finals record speaks for itself. Yes rings yes the best I’ve ever seen but as trash as that east was for so long and then one year in the west can’t male the playoffs and then throws young players under the bus. He’s a generational talent but looking at all things considered FAR FAR FAR from goat

  • Tony Rame
    Tony Rame Month ago

    Both Luka and Zion being on this list is laughable, make the playoffs 1st before we start talking franchise corner stones.

  • Tony Rame
    Tony Rame Month ago

    What is so funny is if Ben Simmons or Joel Embiid were on the LA lakers they would be in the top 10 maybe even in the top 5. The Media is so blatantly bias it is laughable.

  • Killer Lamas
    Killer Lamas Month ago +1

    The fucking woman host is so annoying and useless

  • Ruben
    Ruben Month ago

    Stephen A said the only reason Luka on the list is because he’s from Europe💀🤡

  • Daze Over
    Daze Over Month ago

    molly saying to Max ::: learn how to act .. MADE MY DAY BITCH< ESPN GET RID OF HER u fucken mongs, she is the most annoying host ever , cant u see the comments ? You should instantly loose all ur subs n viewers dont a bitch channel and get her the fuck out of here.

  • brian henry
    brian henry Month ago

    The stupidity of SAS is borderline racist nowadays

  • Sean Dolan
    Sean Dolan Month ago

    Huge fan of LBJ, but there is NO WAY I would start a franchise with him on a 4 year contract, he is 34.
    I would take at least 15 players ahead of him.

  • javad adderley
    javad adderley Month ago

    But um they just build a roster around lebron lakers hello are we forgettin idk what max kellerman is on

  • Matt Valor
    Matt Valor Month ago

    And usually it's Stephen A. accusing Max of not answering the actual question. He tried so hard to take it other directions.

  • TheShipitholla
    TheShipitholla Month ago

    This hurts to watch

  • Marko Nikolic
    Marko Nikolic Month ago +1

    Luka doesn't belong there? Get the fuck out of here Stephen A. Clueless.

  • kookybuger
    kookybuger Month ago +2

    Most of the players on that list are around 30 years old so it doesn't make sense to rebuild with them. Giannis, Davis, Luka, Zion, and Embiid make sense but players like Trae, Booker, KAT, Irving, Mitchell,Simmions, etc. should have made the list

  • febbra2
    febbra2 Month ago +1

    *LUKA DONCHIK IS EUROPEAN* What a dumbass you are, Stephen A Smith.

  • Y Not
    Y Not Month ago

    😞yep😉👌Perhaps KD'S franchise days are over?!🍟🤛🏺naaa😷👌 😌yep😂🤣

  • ven om
    ven om Month ago

    Zion ahead of all of those all time greats?

  • Left Right
    Left Right Month ago

    This question sets this bullshit about age up. They never ask who the 10 most talented players are. Period. Easily, the better question. The whole segment is trying to hype Luka Doncic and play LeBron. The fuck kind of list is this??

  • Dan Tirk
    Dan Tirk Month ago

    Molly's whiny ass voice maybe turn it off within 20 seconds. Somebody get that b**** off the show

  • black news
    black news Month ago

    I’ll start with lonzo

  • Aun Taqvi
    Aun Taqvi Month ago

    whats the point of a debate if no one ever wins lol

  • Michael Gray
    Michael Gray Month ago

    SAS is full of shit. U can't ignore AGE in sports. Get a clue.

  • Thuro F.A.R.
    Thuro F.A.R. Month ago

    So SAS was wrong about Luka last season only to jump on the bandwagon and now he's doubling down on hating on Luka and somehow has amnesia about Luka's rookie year.

  • Qichar
    Qichar Month ago

    Man, it's hard to listen to Stephen A sometimes. We're not speculating. The Lakers wanted to build around Lebron last season. How did that turn out? Yeah, Lebron is pretty smart, but he's also a prima donna who throws his teammates under the bus when the going gets tough. It's never his fault--it's always somebody else's fault. And plenty of people in the NBA have since come out and agreed with this. So no, building around Lebron at this stage in his career is an obvious NO. He's not even close to being the best player in the league anymore. Let's see what he's able to do this coming season. Nobody sees age coming but when it does, your athletic ability falls off hard.

  • Thereal Toure
    Thereal Toure Month ago

    Thank you Stephen A Luka is obviously an Overrated Rookie and he should never be on a list like that, I’ll take Trae Young over him

  • Trey Moore
    Trey Moore Month ago

    1:38 Jalen better watch Molly lmao

  • Roberto Gamez
    Roberto Gamez Month ago

    Shout out to the Bahamas 🙏

  • Your Nostrolee O’ Lee O’ Lees

    Tom Brady Lost last year vs the Eagles he won the year before tho . But not back to back .

  • TheGreatOne
    TheGreatOne Month ago

    They have Klay Thompson above LeBron Durant and Embiid 🤦🏿‍♂️