Annihilation SPOILERS - Analysis and Discussion

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  • JesusSavedJoshua
    JesusSavedJoshua 16 days ago

    The moivie was dumb and the idea that it spurred this banter for you all is funny to me.

  • Nerzenjäger
    Nerzenjäger 23 days ago +1

    The guy that was torn apart by the "worms" in his stomach had the tattoo. Natalie Portman's character touched it.

  • Slow-wipe
    Slow-wipe Month ago

    Matt has lost so much weight, got damn son well done.

  • Bruno Martins Soares

    My take: hyperjumpingblog.wordpress.com/2018/04/16/ahhihilation-conscience-and-perspective/

  • trexguy
    trexguy Month ago

    Love this film! The top 3 of 2018 so far... this, Isle of Dogs and Death of Stalin.

  • Joe Wambwa
    Joe Wambwa Month ago

    This film is odd... too many unanswered questions... why does Josie turn into a plant? Was it because she gave up? ... and why don't the rest turn? Same with the duplicates... why were some animals duplicated and not all? (I have a theory to that one actually, probably did have duplicates but they killed each other due to their instincts... but then mutated? The croc and bear). Hmmm...
    Plus the ending, only reason i think the clone Lena is the one that got out (apart from the eyes) is when the one left in the light house is on fire, she goes to her husband and seems to hold his head then proceeds to spread the fire around... why didn't they both ran out as they were mimicking each other?
    Good film overall though, would recommend it
    #JusBlazeArmy

  • Veritas
    Veritas Month ago

    Shimmer thing were looking for the best life project, so it didn't like any kind of expediters except Natalie and her husband, Natalie was not the clone, she liked her character (she was already mutated) and she let her win, but the project was already done, basically alien created new Adam and Eve.

  • ActorRob
    ActorRob Month ago

    tvclip.biz/video/Xlnp4kaP-oY/video.html?t=18s I saw the movie. And I'm still not sure what I saw.

  • S Torres
    S Torres Month ago

    one of the other girls had the tattoo as well no?>>

  • itsjoepro
    itsjoepro Month ago

    8:34 Alonzo turns into Seth Rogen

  • florazab1
    florazab1 Month ago

    Come on people it's obvious that the whole movie is about cancer and chemotherapy

  • PurushaDesa
    PurushaDesa Month ago

    The bear didn't scare as much as Rodriguez.

  • nosuchthing8
    nosuchthing8 Month ago

    She makes a good point.

  • Sukhbir Sekhon
    Sukhbir Sekhon Month ago

    Good film but not enough interesting ideas to watch again. And too many irritating features eg Natalie Portman. And how come lighthouse not completely destroyed by meteor? Does not know if it wants to be a horror movie or a think piece.

  • Destinee
    Destinee Month ago

    What happened to the psychologist??

  • P S
    P S Month ago

    The Shimmer represents the Talmud, which can make your whole culture self-destruct.
    The lighthouse represents robust healthy culture without the influence of smallhats.
    The Shimmer distorts and adulterates everything.
    But a little bit of light and the Talmud's ruinous effects are neutralized.
    Read about the Talmud. Everything unnatural and hideous is there. It's seriously gross.

  • Lucas A
    Lucas A Month ago

    I'd have to see it again, but I thought the whole thing was just a metaphor for how people change over time and can never really remain themselves. The characters that don't look to the future and won't acknowledge change (the terminal patient, the depressive) all remain within the shimmer and fade out. Natalie Portman's character resolves to accept the changes in her relationship and fight to revive it. She comes out of the shimmer realizing that it didn't want to destroy you or help you, it didn't have an agenda, or a point of view, it was only there to bring about change, to mutate for better or worse because that's what happens in life.
    At then end, she asks: "are you Kane?" and he says "I don't know." She says she's not sure who she is either. Both of them have just gone through a traumatic ordeal - a ruined marriage symbolized by their travel through the shimmer - and have come out different people. Like the Swedish actress on the boat says: "More than missing my child, I missed who I used to be."

  • Chris Tinajero
    Chris Tinajero Month ago +1

    What did you guys think about the Dr. in the lighthouse. At first, her eyes are non existent when she is mumbling to herself, but then her eyes develop before she implodes and turns into that bright yellow "black hole"? wtf happened to her orignal? do we assume she was cloned and then just died mumbling to herself and that is why the alien version was found doing the same?

  • 8675309Vicky
    8675309Vicky Month ago +1

    it's not just DNA that gets "changed" in the shimmer. Thoughts or memories get duplicated---like Lena's house being in the shimmer, etc. Also parts of others get mixed in with other people----Kane gets a southern accent (in his video with his clone), the tattoo from the guy with the swirling intestines ends up on the EMT woman and on Lena. So DNA gets "changed", thoughts/memories are made physical and people get parts of others incorporated into themselves.

  • streetlegacy816
    streetlegacy816 Month ago

    This chick screams Feminism...

  • factotum
    factotum Month ago

    It's a metaphor for cancer. Planetary annihilation not by the reproductive force of a repeating organism, but as the mishappening of cellular self-destruction or apoptosis. The beings that go into the shimmer all have self-destruction tendencies which trigger their going into the event. Like in our biology, when a cell is set to self-destruct but instead repeats itself endlessly into a tumor of useless tumor material.

  • Director7
    Director7 Month ago

    HOLY SHIT Christy blew my fucking mind with the house thing.

  • Alicia Grant
    Alicia Grant Month ago

    WHY THE HECK does this woman not get that the original Lena got out. Like clearly real Lena can not turn into a metallic being and be on fire all the way back into a cave. I know Lena DNA got effed up and her eyes glowed but she wasn't that effed up in a matter of moments being next to the alien. Duh.

  • david r macri
    david r macri Month ago

    Yeah, That "bear" Attack Was so sickening and realistic that it bothered me for days after. Also, a film that makes you think and have real conversation is much too rare these days.

  • Walter Read
    Walter Read Month ago

    I just wanted to mention that the bear is extremely reminiscent of a 'monster' from a Gene Wolfe book. It shows up in "the shadow of the torturer". Google "Alzabo". It was terrifying in that book. -just checked reddit and apparently lots of ppl noticed this. cheers!

  • Justice For Gracie the Cat

    The extraterrestrial species was experimenting with the shimmer. With all of the other people, it had failed they were all self destructive, hence the focus on this theme in the movie. With Lena, it was able to successfully get the mutation into a person that was strong enough to make it out and thus take the mutation with it. There was no longer a need for the shimmer so when Lena set the duplicate on fire, it extinguished the rest of the lighthouse. She is still Lena but she also has parts of the other characters and the extraterrestrial in her. She's the same but different. Maybe it's the evolution of humans.

  • IJustMadeAComment
    IJustMadeAComment Month ago

    The women needs to go. Very annoying.

  • sapphiro
    sapphiro Month ago

    There is no alien.
    It's husband leaving his anger and pride behind and a wife leaving her self-destructiveness.
    They are reunited as two changed people to create one whole again.

  • K. M.
    K. M. Month ago +1

    With so many allusions to self destruction, maybe the alien/threat wasn't necessarily a physical threat at all. It was itself a representation of the events (external in nature) in our lives that drive our own self destruction. Sometimes we succeed in that endeavor, sometimes we emerge, forever changed by the experience. Consider the metallic doppelganger, which she at first attempts to fight, she only defeats through acceptance. Ventress comes to accept it as well. She is faced with cancer and dies beautifully, when her character accomplishes her goal of reaching the lighthouse and finds peace in the struggle.
    As the final meteor shower suggests, we are all being bombarded by these events that threaten and change us.

  • Rebecca Byam
    Rebecca Byam Month ago

    The best movie I’ve seen in years

  • Márk Nagy
    Márk Nagy Month ago

    I think the doppleganger got out, because remember the whole story is being told, by the Lena in the chair, talking to the guy in the hazmat suit. She could easily lie about what happened in the lighthouse.

  • Nameless The Rebel
    Nameless The Rebel Month ago

    Homie in the blue is the only one who said anything remotely interesting

  • tgflux
    tgflux Month ago

    To be clear, Natalie Portman (Lena) gave her doppelganger the desire to destroy the Shimmer, and it did. The Shimmer is gone now...UNLESS one is contending that mutated Lena, who makes it out, now IS The Shimmer (and/or w/ the doppelganger Cane. WTF was up w/ OI's accent? It seemed "standard American" in the flashback scene, and then in the suicide video, it's all corn-pone. Unless Cane mutated w/ some local Loosianan to take on a new accent? ;-/ )

  • Beau G
    Beau G Month ago

    So was this Area X the movie?

  • fikaso
    fikaso 2 months ago

    Ego. What you resist persists. Everything as one. I am, you are. Choice.

  • Charmedsas1
    Charmedsas1 2 months ago

    My whole portrayal of the movie was that: it's like having a group of people taking the same drug and each of them reacting differently to it, based on their pasts and the way they feel now inside.✌❤
    That's what the shimmer represents in my opinion.

  • Davemountain2021
    Davemountain2021 2 months ago

    The bear aint the girls throat, which containing her vocal chords. Her vocal chords fused/ mutant into the bear. But I like the idea it uses the voice to lure prey

  • Duda Saints
    Duda Saints 2 months ago

    Review of Annihilation (2018🌱🐉🍃) by Brilliant Director Alex Garland (Ex-Machina) A "A Psychedelic Allegory of Human Tragedy"
    Another pessimistic thriller and at same time a grim warning for a Civilization that seems increasingly distanced from the conditions that have guaranteed the success of humanity's journey for thousands of years to the present day such as: empathy, solidarity, cooperation and, fundamentally, a sense of unity with nature and the universe based on shamanic spiritual practices.
    In Annihilation, the Director Alex Garland once more distills all his pessimism against us, humanity, and makes use of several resources to validate his version of the original book: first through a kind of "ecological rebellion" where nature literally decides to "annihilate" the “cancer " of the earth (the human race) through both by a complex botanical-genetic reconfiguration and by triggering a dramatic DNA mutation processes which affected all other living things around and by doing it, tries to reconfigure the whole planet.
    Garland´s version is a dramatic interpretation of the famous Gaia hypothesis (by James Lovelock, 1979), which claimed that the earth is a "self-regulating" living being, with fever, caused by the frantic industrial and urban activity of mankind in last 700 years and, therefore, it is about to expel these undesirable beings ...
    On the other hand, It is also an interesting approach to the profound "transformation" that happens with those who experience an authentic psychedelic journey (references to mushrooms, fungi and mycelia are everywhere in the movie) and once on the other side "would come across a totally different "environment" from the so called "real " world of language, culture and ideology built by human beings in the last 10,000 years to support the male centric, dominator civilization ...
    It is important to mention the hypothesis advocated by the psychedelic philosophy on the dissolution of ego-delusions, on the rationalizing dimension of the human psyche which underpins the culture of civilization. Such approach appears in the final scene in which Natalie Portman´s character (after an induced psychedelic trip in the interior of the magical tower) wages a desperate struggle against his own "other" (her ego) to immediately fall back on what it means to become aware of things and become a conscious being ...
    Such dissimulated posture of the protagonist, now “self-conscious” manifests itself throughout the film, in the cold interrogation carried out by various narrow minded scientists and their useless technological machines, unable to understand what happened (or is happening!) on the other side of the shimmer without understanding that , as Natalie's character, in order to get into the swings of things, they also would have to go through the experience of crossing the boundaries of the language / culture / ideology of the so-called "human reality" (the psychedelic experience itself).
    That would be a sine qua non condition for "understanding" the truth that Nature (through its own "alchemical" language) has been trying to tell us for centuries and the stoned hunter-gathered humanity that lived at 12000BC knew very well: that the transition to agriculture and its tragic corollary, the alpha dominant Technological Civilization, is an evolutionary misfortune, ultimately an error, an unwanted mutation that transformed those special primates into blind, belligerent, misguided and deluded beings with their alleged superior technological civilization and for that very reason, destined to self-annihilation.

  • SidV101
    SidV101 2 months ago

    My interpretation: Kane’s clone and original Lena made it out. Kane didn’t make it because he’d lost his desire to survive, whereas Lena hadn’t. The point of life in general is to spread by adapting to its surroundings, which is what I think was happening with the asteroid, the shimmer and the alien. Lena survives the shimmer because she shares its goal; to survive. Organ donor bodies reject organs if they’re too dissimilar; only Lena was a ‘natural fit’ for the shimmer. It doesn’t really matter to me if the alien has conscious intent, because survival and biological instincts don’t require consciousness. All we really see the alien do is mimic, which doesn’t require advanced intelligence. Most life gets by fine without it.

  • Brian Rossmiller
    Brian Rossmiller 2 months ago

    I believe a couple lines from the movie explains the ending. Lena discusses life coming from a single cell, alone in the world, which becomes 2, 4, 8, etc. She also mentions that God makes mistakes because our DNA is not perfect. We can age, get cancer and diseases all because of how the DNA was designed. I hypothesize that this is a lone alien. Its hyper-cube look seems to suggest it is from another dimension which has more spacial dimensions. In an effort to survive and propagate, it experiments with DNA to create the perfect form. It ultimately creates two doppelgangers. So from one becomes two. Their DNA is probably much more intelligently designed to avoid aging, and common diseases. They may even retain some genes from the other organisms in the shimmer. Once the experiment was over, the failed experiments and trail stages were burned and the final products left and lied about what happened.

  • sebastian barbosa
    sebastian barbosa 2 months ago

    the screaming bear is pure genius...moron

    • sapphiro
      sapphiro Month ago

      sebastian barbosa mimic monster has been done many, many times in movies. Even T1000 from Terminator 2 movie used the same trick to lure it's prey.

  • David O'Brien
    David O'Brien 2 months ago +1

    Very annoying how the three of you are fighting for the spotlight and over talk each other.

  • Alex Havig
    Alex Havig 2 months ago

    I thought the shimmer represents HIV or cancer cells. So the shimmer would be some sort of alien disease.

  • Jeshoel
    Jeshoel 2 months ago +1

    I also noticed that it was their house right away. What really creeped me out, because I only remembered it later: Kane (the original we see in the flashbacks) has a bear tattooed on his chest.

  • Dan -Horsenwelles- Williams

    ITS JUST POKEMON!!! NATALIE PORTMAN ABUSED A DITTO!!

  • George Jets on
    George Jets on 2 months ago +1

    Natalie's alien double is the one telling the story and what we see is based on it's description of the events. The alien double changes the ending to hide what it is and wants to take her place. Natalie's character died in the lighthouse.

  • Ross Eckert
    Ross Eckert 2 months ago +1

    Liked the movie...but was anyone not bothered by the plot hole of the government being able to cover up this phenomenon that took place in the United States? No way in hell they would be able to keep this top secret without knowledge of it getting out and someone else knowing about it...journalist, astronomer, locals who lived somewhere nearby...whatever. Even if it was a small, isolated area. It was still in the southern United States. Would have made more sense if this was taking place in a very isolated area in the world. Like some island in the middle of nowhere. Even then astronomers would still be aware of the phenomenon and would be very hard to keep this top secret. Still really good...even great movie. Haven't seen this mentioned, and I think it's a pretty big plot hole that is never addressed.

  • Clayton Chan
    Clayton Chan 2 months ago +2

    Something people keep overlooking is that the story is being told by Natalie Portman’s character. She could be the clone and just be lying to the quarintine people.

  • Wīthäzmund Lowenpeçetian d'Frithnanthi

    Is that Hodor?

  • mark kavanagh
    mark kavanagh 2 months ago

    My guess is that the shimmer was trying to perfect it's recreation of earthly lifeforms and the last Natalie Portman was perfection achieved and thus the shimmer destroyed itself knowing it would survive through her.

  • Rather Digby
    Rather Digby 2 months ago +1

    Are we not discussing the, what I thought, blatant biblical similes and iconography? Or are they red herrings?
    My rough draft is that the film is a metaphor for the origin of life, scientifically and biblically with Isaacs and Portman being Adam and Eve.
    The garden of Eden, the tree and the snake. I know the lighthouse has significance with Jehovah's witnesses.
    This has some interesting science based metaphor too regarding cell division and how the first cell was formed by two other lifeforms.

  • Sea BreezeUK
    Sea BreezeUK 2 months ago

    What if the bigger analogy here is that humans are the cancer on earth - the environmental assimilation (annihilation) we are relentlessly carrying out? Instead of humans looking at the shimmer, imagine it from the perspective of plants and animals, watching human cities grow and slowly consume everything in their path, re-purposing elements of nature for human purposes, and with pollution scattering the sun's light in a brown, smoggy 'shimmer'...

  • Daniel Roche
    Daniel Roche 2 months ago +2

    You have to completely ignore the movie to not get Portman survives the Shimmer. Issac's doppelganger not only can't answer Portman's basic questions about what he has been up to but he also refers to the bedroom as "the room with the bed."
    I think the movie makes it pretty clear the doppleganger has inherited a lot of memory, language, etc from Issac but is not comfortable using it and doesn't get idiomatic stuff. And they don't show Portman habing those same difficulties.

  • Mark Godleman
    Mark Godleman 2 months ago

    Very nice Spot with Natalie Portman,s character,s House!👍

  • Bob Spitfire
    Bob Spitfire 2 months ago +1

    Most simply the film is invasion of the body snatchers... but digging a bit deeper.
    The film appears on the surface to be an analogy for cancer, thats what the shimmer is, cancerous. They keep 'treating' it but it fails and continues to spread, unthinkingly, unaware of the damage it is doing. (and there are of course a whole lot of direct references to cancer.)
    Cancer twists what is familiar, its your body turning on you, killing you from the inside, and whether its successfully treated or not changing you pretty profoundly.
    Even after they successfully stem it, the scientists continue to probe Lena and her husband to understand what happened in exactly the same as cancer treatment never really ends. Theyll always monitor you.
    There is the more personal issues, how they all die in ways related to their self destruction. (Which is obviously also related to the biological self destruction of cancer.) Cass becomes nothing but her pain much like how her loss had already hollowed her out, Anya loses her mind echoing her addictions, Josie succumbs to her cuts like her self harm, Ventress becomes part of the system through which she sent all the teams to their death, (Ventress also callously pressing towards the finish to get her wish really strongly reminded me of Red from Roadside Picnic which Annihilation takes a great deal from.) and Lena is her own worst enemy.
    Then there is the grander scale stuff of perpetual self destruction across everyone, the infinite Ouroborus and Ventress quoting Beckett at the end.
    As for that ending, I think the mystery works on every level. The body snatchers style classic horror trope of 'Its over.... or is it?'
    The cancer reference that as I mentioned means you can never really be sure it is 'cured'.
    and the self destructive tendencies leading two people who had deeper problems than it first appeared back together.
    (All of which are destructive loops.)
    That at least is where Im at in adding up all I saw, though there is probably a lot more Ive missed or not mentioned.

  • wtfisditvoorbullshit
    wtfisditvoorbullshit 2 months ago

    A piece of art is never finished, it's only abandoned

  • Reality
    Reality 2 months ago

    Like 2001 and Possession, this shit was good until it got stupid.

  • Ozi Girl 16
    Ozi Girl 16 2 months ago +2

    The two of them are going to have children spreading the alien! I DONT KNOW

  • No Name
    No Name 2 months ago +6

    Doesn't the psychologisy who has been studying the shimmer for 3 years figure if they send enough self distructive people into the shimmer...the shimmer will become self destructive via evolution/mutation and destroy itself...which it did.

    • Chris Tinajero
      Chris Tinajero Month ago

      thats pretty genius! I didnt catch that.

    • sapphiro
      sapphiro Month ago

      No Name The shimmer was much smaller and with less mutated hostile creatures in the beginning but for 3 years no one was able to come back? The first mission they sent must have been Suicide Squad 😂

  • Joshua Gold
    Joshua Gold 2 months ago

    I think when she hands over the grenade, unlike when she violently tries to escape, its like a symbolic handing over of her self-destructiveness. Thus when she runs and her clone burns up, it is now self-destructive like she was, burning everything else

  • Vits Vicente Torres
    Vits Vicente Torres 2 months ago +1

    1) I think the LENA we see at the end is the real one. When the fake KANE arrived, he didn't remember much. LENA remembered enough details to tell the story to LOMAX. Actually, why *would* a fake LENA tell the story?
    2) At the lighthouse, why did the creature mimic LENA's movements only at times? Speaking of that scene, when the creature pushed her against the door, it looked like it was trying to rape her. Is the movie then meant to be an allegory on that subject?

  • Jake Modica
    Jake Modica 2 months ago +1

    The shimmer is human nature. We are a cancer.

  • Duilio Pintagro
    Duilio Pintagro 2 months ago

    I liked RED SPARROW (no perfect score, but good and different from so many popcorn spy movies) and Annihilation...

  • Aritro Roy
    Aritro Roy 2 months ago +12

    *Refraction*
    Lena (played by Portman) got the tattoo from Anya (Rodriguez)
    and a similar thing happens with Kane (Isaac) as his accent gradually changes ...something he probably acquired from one (or more) of his teammates

    • Penny Gibson
      Penny Gibson Month ago +1

      The tattoo was on the body on the wall in the pool

    • BlaqMagiq99
      BlaqMagiq99 2 months ago +2

      Aritro Roy i had the same question about his accent. i didnt think he had it at the beginning

  • Lefty
    Lefty 2 months ago

    I think the Natalie Portman that comes out is clearly the alien. We also have to take the story that is being told has to be taken with a grain of salt because the alien wouldnt tell the people interrogating her that she is an alien. She says she came out in the end but we cant take it as truth.

  • JBourneID
    JBourneID 2 months ago +9

    Not much of an analysis here.

  • jay666er
    jay666er 2 months ago

    I loved this freaking movie

  • HitchensImmortal
    HitchensImmortal 2 months ago

    Reading the comments makes me think that too many people read Infinite Jest and now fancy themselves the next Socrates.

  • Hermy1138
    Hermy1138 2 months ago

    Cancer!!! It's about cancer!!!

  • Ben Smith
    Ben Smith 2 months ago

    The tattoo on Leena's arm is the exact same tattoo that Anya has

  • MyTubeIsBetter20
    MyTubeIsBetter20 2 months ago +2

    tf is Chrtisy talking about. the real Natalie Portman clearly blows up the Shimmer one

  • Dappskee
    Dappskee 2 months ago

    What this movie about is that 5 women were able to overcome undeniable odds, persevere and survive a horrible experience
    .....Hollywood.

  • Zholla Mychalis
    Zholla Mychalis 2 months ago

    Annihilation does not have a right interpretation. Only a right interpretation...for you the viewer. LIke the scene in The Empire Strikes Back...we take into the shimmer/the movie...what we bring with us. We are all going to see slightly or wildly different stuff in what we saw. It would be a serious piece of work...for me...if in a real alien 'invasion'...we all live in different realities of a post invasion world...based on what we were before the 'colomization began. LOve that talking bear...

  • Graftanker 98
    Graftanker 98 2 months ago

    The alien entity was running an experiment to see which dna and lifeform will help it most survive, which was humans, but it had to figure out how to become human without the self destructive nature.

  • MrGMovieReviews
    MrGMovieReviews 2 months ago

    I'm pretty sure that was Gina Rodriguez's tattoo

  • Not a Geek
    Not a Geek 2 months ago

    Only one thing i don't like is subplot of cheating. It was not necessary

  • Hugh Tahoob
    Hugh Tahoob 2 months ago

    Natalie Portman being in the military is about as believable as me being in the library lol
    But wait she is technically Israeli maybe she was in their military hmmm anyone verify that ? Or ....

    • Hugh Tahoob
      Hugh Tahoob 2 months ago +1

      Frederic Beaudet her real Husband was ballet guy lol I think you're talking movie and I'm talking in real life

    • Hugh Tahoob
      Hugh Tahoob 2 months ago

      Frederic Beaudet wait her husband is SPEC OP ?

    • Frederic Beaudet
      Frederic Beaudet 2 months ago

      She could have been in the military just to pay for her college bills. She met her husband who's special forces, doesn't mean she was. She could have been working at a desk like many do.

  • Ernest E
    Ernest E 2 months ago

    There's a point in the movie where Natalie Portmans character talks about duplicating as they got closer to the lighthouse and at the beginning of when they first entered they each lost time (3 days I think?) So my theory is they each were all duplicated multiple times within the shimmer so maybe the moment they entered and we see them within the shimmer awake for the first time, they've already been duplicated and their original selves are already gone and what were watching are just clones...

  • sweeneythom77
    sweeneythom77 2 months ago +3

    I noticed when Portman's character goes into the house inside the Shimmer, there's a moment by the stairs where it seems like she notices that the stairs/house are similar if not identical to hers. For some reason, there was a definite moment where she takes in the fact that she's in the house.
    Also, I think it was the original Portman that made it out but at first, I thought maybe the alien absorbed parts of her mental structure (not just physical) and adapted her tendency to lie. They set up that she's a lier throughout the movie. So I wondered if maybe it was the alien being interrogated and that it lied to cover it's identity by changing how the final moments in the lighthouse went down, lying to the viewer as well. It hypnotized Portman into killing herself and then left once it learned enough about Earth biology and whether or not it wanted to continue changing the Earth. I thought it would be a fun twist if it actually won and just lied about it so it could be with its mate (the Issacs clone).

  • Marby Miranda
    Marby Miranda 2 months ago

    The "alien" lena survived. It was the second iteration of "mimicry" where the alien finally learned what it took to survive outside area x (comeplete with memory - drinking the water did not have adverse effect) and also having TWO of them to be able to reproduce unnoticed. The second time lena wakes up from the slumber with the mimic, the switch already happened. you could see from the "steps" they were taking right before the "alien" picked up the grenade...knowing the real Lena would want to be with her husband, the alien handed the grenade to Lena (annihilation) and after it exploded you could see how Lena touches/burns her husband first and then the contamination around her. Why would the doppleganger alien do this? why would it try to "burn" the other contamination essentially destroying the entirety of the shimmer? It was the final sacrifice of Lena even though she knew the alien would get away, destroying the shimmer will give humans some time to figure out what is happening or about to happen. Yes, the aliens are alive in two human bodies, but it will take a longer time to spread than what the shimmer was doing.

  • John Doe
    John Doe 2 months ago +4

    The shimmer is any event horizon. Once we cross the threshold of the unknown there's no going back. Artificial Intelligence. Unnatural social constructs. Mass media. Whenever you introduce a new technology and or something new into the environment it changes how you behave. IT CHANGES YOU. The theme of self destruction played out in a global or species wide expression in the infrastructure we build, the wars we fight, the social constructs we generate or even our best ideas and intentions all carry the risk of being contaminated with our own self destructive sides.
    In some ways I see it as an allegory for feminism, socialism, biological nanotech, AI and transhumanism.
    (basically what unintentional consequences of our own self destructive traits will be inherent in these as we move forward.)
    The best film I've seen in years.

    • sapphiro
      sapphiro Month ago

      Best movie in years if you like x-man movies where scientist woman can do DNA analysis of human-plant just with her naked eye ;-)

    • John Doe
      John Doe 2 months ago

      Fuck yes it's destructive.Not all of it of course it's the parts that you don't see yet. Who are you to dictate what I deserve to enjoy, you know that's the the definition of fascism. Put it back into context and stop turning me into your enemy you fascist dope.

    • Aaron Sanders
      Aaron Sanders 2 months ago

      John Doe if you think feminism or socialism is self-destructive, you don’t deserve to enjoy this movie. What a waste

  • Jessie D
    Jessie D 2 months ago

    And yes the clone of NP was bleeding but it wasn't the clone that left.

  • Sara Dickson
    Sara Dickson 2 months ago +7

    can we talk about how incredible it is that Garland has made a perfectly passive antagonist! The nature of the shimmer refracts and blends its environment, but the being in the lighthouse does nothing but the same - it copies. The figure doesn't go outside and hunt them down, it just exists there (it doesn't even take a human form until it has one to copy). It is nature itself that is the aggressor, both in the cases of the animals, and the self-destructive tendencies of the team.

  • Feon Jun
    Feon Jun 2 months ago

    I have not read the the book, but the movie was boring made worse by the cheap uninspired ending.

  • Martin Silenus
    Martin Silenus 2 months ago

    Gina Rodriguez's character had the tattoo

  • Blitz Gordon
    Blitz Gordon 2 months ago +2

    I thought the movie was ok a 5/10 but something bothered me the whole time. Why would they go in there without hazmat suits?

    • sapphiro
      sapphiro Month ago

      Blitz Gordon you could say that because they were all self-destructive so non of them cared, but the despatch crew surely would not have let them go like this.
      The real reason is because it's a movie. The actors act mainly with their faces. Here we also have feminine body factor that needed to be accentuated, hence no body and face cover which would obstruct assets.
      You can see this problem in most war movies where main cast ditch protective helmets so you can clearly see dramatic acting on their faces.
      I always laugh watching Sci-fi movies where crew right after landing on alien planet do the atmospheric check and surprisingly discover that atmosphere is not toxic so they can ditch helmets and start acting :-)

  • Lupe Walker
    Lupe Walker 2 months ago

    If this was a superhero film with explosions and action scenes, they'll say is a mess or dumb lol
    Critics are so full of shit

  • Bboiblack
    Bboiblack 2 months ago

    analysis? after their BvS review i didn't know this place did that

  • Audrey T
    Audrey T 2 months ago

    It's the original Lena that comes out because she remembers whereas her husband clone didn't remember anything

  • Brian Deluca
    Brian Deluca 2 months ago

    It's on Netflix's I believe

  • Fame Trimble
    Fame Trimble 2 months ago

    This movie about the refraction of everything.

  • LazySillyDonkey
    LazySillyDonkey 2 months ago +13

    Goddamit why is this woman obsessed with it being natalies clone that escapes?? It clearly fucking doesnt! Natalie grabs the grenade and puts it into the doubles hands. Its the original natalie, contaminated/infected by the shimmer that makes it out.

    • LazySillyDonkey
      LazySillyDonkey 2 months ago

      Aaron Sanders Fair point. Not how i saw it, but each to their own

    • Aaron Sanders
      Aaron Sanders 2 months ago +4

      LazySillyDonkey because she’s a potentially unreliable narrator, since the whole movie is her retelling their expedition

  • MegaJdizzle27
    MegaJdizzle27 2 months ago

    I'm glad I found out they are a subsidiary of TYT, now I know never to click on this channel again.

  • Fangtorn
    Fangtorn 2 months ago +5

    The tattoo was one of the details I liked about this movie. The paramedic Anya had it on her arm, then when Natalie's character was on the boat she complains about a bruise on her arm and thinks it come from the alligator even though it never touched her, and then she has the tattoo. I sort of liked she never mentioned it, it was as if she never realized the tattoo wasn't hers.

    • Hamza Isa
      Hamza Isa 2 months ago +2

      Fangtorn don't wanna be THAT guy but it was the soldier that had his stomach cut that had the tattoo, you see it when the group see his remains on the wall.

  • Richard Hallett
    Richard Hallett 2 months ago

    One character says that the bear somehow took on some part of the woman it killed. And that’s why it makes that sound. I think that’s also what happens to Natalie Portman. She gets out (no question, you see the mimic burn) but she has taken on part of thing she killed, like the bear did. She comes back, but so does the mimic.

  • Helder De Almeida
    Helder De Almeida 2 months ago

    Lena version it's her and it's not her at the end. She mutated once she entry the shimmer

    • Peter Knagge
      Peter Knagge 2 months ago

      My interpretation was it is an "evolved" version of her, just as it is an "evolved" version of Kane. They both changed and are now new.

  • Helder De Almeida
    Helder De Almeida 2 months ago

    Guys read the book end of story