How Will the Emperor Return in The Rise of Skywalker?

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  • Matt Scott
    Matt Scott 5 months ago

    She’s drunk

  • Arvel Crynyd
    Arvel Crynyd 5 months ago +1

    Redeeming Kylo is dull!?!? Harloff is delusional. How could that possibly be more dull than Rey being all good and killing Kylo for being all bad. That's LITERALLY the most basic plot line OF ALL TIME!!!!
    Why does he assume Kylo/Ben dies? Why does he assume Rey lives? He seems to assume that the redemption will be in the last five minutes, a carbon copy of Vader. Why? What evidence does he have? With Adam Driver's acting chops Harloff STILL ASSumes it'll be terrible and "dull". Why? What if the root of the redemption happens early in the movie and we have to see him actively pursuing his penance for 2/3 of it? With AD's skills that would still be dull to Harloff? RIDICULOUS.
    I'm calling Harloff out for this BS every time I see it, he's being a whiny little punk and he has literally ZERO reason to assume a redemption for Ben would be "dull", unless he's somehow had the entire script leaked to him and him alone this early. Which I highly doubt.

  • BAR MAG
    BAR MAG 5 months ago +1

    How can KH want Han and Leia's son, in a Disney movie, to die unredeemed? Oh, he says he thinks he will be redeemed but that it's boring. Why? Because it happened with Vador?
    Okay, then, lightsaber battles are boring. They happened between Anakin and Obi-Wan and Luke-Vador, so another one ? Boring, boring, boring, right?

    • Arvel Crynyd
      Arvel Crynyd 5 months ago

      Agreed, Harloff is way outta line with his assumptions. There are a lot of interesting, new, and unique ways they could show Kylo paying penance in TROS that not only show of AD's acting chops but also speak to a lot of fans.
      Not to mention that it's not only the final movie of this trilogy it's the final movie of a trilogy of trilogies. That paired with the fact that it's coming out during the holidays, a time about forgiveness and family and hope etc., (all very present SW themes) just says to me that he'll be redeemed. They're not gonna take the last in the Skywalker/Solo bloodline out like that. Not to mention that it also sends a rather heinous message that people who are abused are just as bad as their abusers and/or deserved that treatment. Because it's well established that's the relationship between Snoke and Kylo. He's been manipulated the whole time, too sympathetic not to redeem. Maybe Harloff is just deranged but I don't think that's a good message for the kids.

  • Aaron Galibert
    Aaron Galibert 5 months ago

    This is the most important movie in Star Wars history. The fate of the Star Wars universe is on the line. Katherine Kennedy’s legacy hangs in the balance.

    • Johann Hamel
      Johann Hamel 5 months ago

      I think i agree. If the movie get to a billion and half it will be a succes

  • Everything Music
    Everything Music 5 months ago

    I’ll tell you how he should return, by not returning at all. He’ll only get his character ruined like all the others.

  • Zack Wick
    Zack Wick 5 months ago

    Do we like the new background?

  • Anakins Twin
    Anakins Twin 5 months ago

    Why is Roxy just randomly shouting stuff? 🤐

  • Book of shadows contributor Brian

    100th comment💌

  • Lamar Newton
    Lamar Newton 5 months ago +2

    “You shall pay the price for your lack of vision!!!”

  • Josh Hunt
    Josh Hunt 5 months ago

    I think there will be a hologram in the remains of Death Star II explaining that everything that had happened up until then was al part of his plan or something like that

  • JediDog 36
    JediDog 36 5 months ago

    I guess my Jedi Council question got answered, nvm.

  • Ever
    Ever 5 months ago

    I disagree.....they already fooled his redemption in TLJ and he went back to the dark side. I hope they don't redeem him, but I honestly think the will not.

  • Julian Jesse
    Julian Jesse 5 months ago

    I don't think Kiilo will be redeemed.

  • Dustin Whalen
    Dustin Whalen 5 months ago

    I think Palpatine will appear ala Darth Bane in TCW,he will appear in his broken chair thats left in the broken Death Star.

  • Daniel Rodriguez
    Daniel Rodriguez 5 months ago

    Rise of Skywalker gonna beat endgame ,👀 perfectly balance ⚖️as all things should be

  • David Olmedo
    David Olmedo 5 months ago

    Lmao c'mon yo , the emp is going to be like sky walker in the force awakens, SW is dead

  • Lou Chandler
    Lou Chandler 5 months ago +1

    Can we just stop with the Palpatine = Voldemart references. Thanks and goodbye

  • gab l
    gab l 5 months ago +1

    pathetic

  • AU
    AU 5 months ago

    2:16 For once I agree with Roxy

  • Daniel Reguera
    Daniel Reguera 5 months ago +12

    Man I love how excited Kristian is to talk about Star Wars....

  • ShogunOrta
    ShogunOrta 5 months ago

    I don't like the possession thing because then it's the gang fighting Not-Palpatine. It'd be okay if a possession happens but Palpatine does finally show up as the final boss in a way in the end.

  • Mike H.
    Mike H. 5 months ago +2

    I really hope Palps is no more than a holocron message. Rebels and Maul set up the Sith only have oblivion after death. Anything else is a retcon.

    • JCIce007
      JCIce007 5 months ago

      Rebels had Nighsister ghosts possess people. If they can do that, the Sith are liable to have some equivalent.

  • Steven Escalante
    Steven Escalante 5 months ago

    Force ghost is only a light side thing

  • Caleb
    Caleb 5 months ago

    That would be exactly like Vader. Dont think he will be redeemed and live? Switch it up a tad. And dedicate the rest of his life to doing "the right thing"

    • duN dUN DUN
      duN dUN DUN 5 months ago

      Caleb Since this is intended to be the definitive end of the Skywalker’s story, I’m not sure if they’d leave the future of the bloodline that ambiguous. Everyone would question whether or not he had children and I feel like it’d just inevitably lead to another trilogy in this saga, which it seems like they’re ready to move on from.

  • joe j
    joe j 5 months ago +2

    Is it me or does Roxy D rail every question. Either because she’s not paying attention, she’s being ditzy or she’s just being Roxy.

  • Ron Sabol
    Ron Sabol 5 months ago +15

    Oh, Roxy. What contribution to the conversation: "Idiot!" Hilarious. 😐

    • CB 1014
      CB 1014 5 months ago +1

      She is such garbage it actually is a problem now

  • sharpshooter07
    sharpshooter07 5 months ago

    Rey having a force vision after touching Vader's mask it's how it could happen.

  • Leonardo Bautista
    Leonardo Bautista 5 months ago +2

    She's like a cancer that Roxy

  • Richard Herman
    Richard Herman 5 months ago

    I'm sure however they do it it'll be really stupid.

  • Sean Wade
    Sean Wade 5 months ago

    Fucking Christ Kristian, the Emperor will be a ghost and Rey will meet him in the wreckage of the Death Star. He won’t be a big deal in the movie as some think

  • J. Will
    J. Will 5 months ago +2

    RJ only wants Kylo to be redeemed because no one else does

  • carmineglitch
    carmineglitch 5 months ago

    Palpie is a front desk hotel clerk in hiding in a galaxy far far away. Rey and Ren meet him to their surprise upon a last minute booking to bang.

  • Jason Peet
    Jason Peet 5 months ago

    It's so simple the way emperors coming back it's obviously time travel look at Star Wars rebels they introduced time travel but haven't done anything with it yet so why not now as a big plot twist?

  • Prophet Indeed
    Prophet Indeed 5 months ago +3

    The skywalker bloodline was created with bad intentions. They rose from the dark side.

    • Prophet Indeed
      Prophet Indeed 5 months ago

      Anything we come up with makes more sense than Disney

    • BAR MAG
      BAR MAG 5 months ago

      What if Anakin wasn't born from the dark side but from the Force itself, a creation to counter act Palpy's actions? makes more sense, to me.

    • Prophet Indeed
      Prophet Indeed 5 months ago

      I hope it to be true. And maybe Kylo comes across a cloned anakin and the 2 conquer the galaxy(ies) like Vader wanted to with Luke. It rhymes I think.

    • duN dUN DUN
      duN dUN DUN 5 months ago +1

      Mickey Binoz It’s only right that the bloodline end in darkness also.

  • Andrew Morris
    Andrew Morris 5 months ago

    I think he may appear the same way that Darth Bane appeared in Clone Wars.

  • Francisco Menano
    Francisco Menano 5 months ago

    Someone is possessed by the ghost of Palpatine

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago +1

      @Francisco Menano Yeah, that could be. I think Palpatine will take the body of one of the already-existing characters... and an exorcism will not be possible.

    • Francisco Menano
      Francisco Menano 5 months ago

      @mattris matt I'm saying this because after the teaser came out Matt Smith was removed from the cast list, but he was filming nonetheless. Maybe he was removed as a decoy?

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago

      @Francisco Menano Someone we don't already know as Palpatine? Wouldn't that kind of lame? Matt Smith isn't even confirmed as a cast member.

    • Francisco Menano
      Francisco Menano 5 months ago

      @mattris matt Matt Smith's character, probably a Knight of Ren

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago

      I think you're close. Who do you think will become possessed?

  • Potaka79
    Potaka79 5 months ago +2

    Who cares, after the last piece of shit movie no one will be rushing out to watch.

  • Ice Fury, Director of Shield

    How Will the Emperor Return in The Rise of Skywalker?

    Well, "No one's ever really gone" :/

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago

      @Andrew Cabral You honestly think they would put him on the cast list? Ian McDiarmid wasn't on the cast list until it was confirmed that The Emperor will return "in the flesh" at SWC. Episode IX will have so many twists, your head will spin!

    • Andrew Cabral
      Andrew Cabral 5 months ago

      @mattris matt No he won't because I didn't see Harrison Fords name on the cast list.

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago

      @Andrew Cabral Han will make an appearance in TROS, probably in a flashback.

    • Andrew Cabral
      Andrew Cabral 5 months ago

      Han is really gone.

  • Mike R.
    Mike R. 5 months ago +6

    No matter what happens, the "fans" will whine about it

    • Diego RM99
      Diego RM99 5 months ago +3

      @Mike R. I agree, but not all TLJ "haters" do that. Some people justa have a tendency for generalizing everything. But really, we get the same treatment by some of the fanboys as well. If we don't like TLJ we are "trolls, bots, sexists, racists, insecure out of shape men" or because "our shit theories didn't come true" "we wanted OP videogame Luke" "We didn't understand the because its so complex" blah blah blah. That mentality is on both sides, nothing new here.

    • Mike R.
      Mike R. 5 months ago +2

      @Diego RM99 Being critical is on thing. Complaining about literally everything, and even hoping the movies fail (which many so-called fans seem to do) is another. I literally had to abandon a Star Wars fan message board because I realized that unless you were on the "They oughta call it SJW Wars!-Feminazis are ruining Star Wars!-The Last Jedi ruined my childhood!" train, you are going to take a lot of s**t.

    • Diego RM99
      Diego RM99 5 months ago +4

      So being a "fan" means liking eveything no matter what? Are we not allowed to be critical?

  • uskin3
    uskin3 5 months ago

    a hologram. nothing more.

    • 98ashb
      98ashb 5 months ago

      Hi Matt good question I think he will appear in a younger new body that doesn’t look like him but I think he will also appear in old holograms and potentially flashbacks aswell.I think possession is possible but I think a clone would be more likely that doesn’t look at all like him

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago

      @98ashb Is is great, indeed. Any ideas how he'll return? I don't think he'll be the same 'old man Palpatine' we've seen before.

      Also, KK said that IX will feature "the epitome of evil". How (phantom) menacing...

    • 98ashb
      98ashb 5 months ago

      Hi mate, if that's the case that's great news@mattris matt

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago +1

      It was confirmed at SWC - either by JJ or KK - that Palpatine will return "in the flesh".

    • George Ainsley
      George Ainsley 5 months ago

      No chance that’ll be the case

  • DANIEL NERADT
    DANIEL NERADT 5 months ago

    Dark Empire comic book series. Clones. Millions of palpatine clones in a mountain

  • Neil Philp
    Neil Philp 5 months ago

    I don't know but it will more than likely totally suck.
    Episode 9: Pretend the Last Jedi never happened.

  • Shane Cadden
    Shane Cadden 5 months ago +5

    Ren redemption is lazy writing beyond words.

    • Shane Cadden
      Shane Cadden 5 months ago

      @Arvel Crynyd Never said this is how it should be done. That too would be lazy writing imho.

    • Arvel Crynyd
      Arvel Crynyd 5 months ago

      Right, but Rey being all good and killing Kylo for being all bad isn't literally the most basic plot line of all time. Gotcha, you're so full of logic oh wise one.

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago

      @Shane Cadden Ah, but who's to say what "the right thing" is in the bigger picture of the Saga as it pertains to (the balance of) the Force? I'd say the story of the Sequel Trilogy is just as much Ben's as Rey's. But indeed, why invest all this time in "nobody" Rey? What is her "place in all this"?

    • Shane Cadden
      Shane Cadden 5 months ago

      @mattris matt I simply don't see redemption as an option and after two movies now I don't see how they make him have a heroic sacrifice that will work as he has turned down any chance to do the right thing and in the end if he is lifted up as the sacrifice and balance the force then why invest all this time in Rey. It's her story - he is the villain and antagonist and we should all enjoy that becuase Driver's done an excellent job in doing so.

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago

      @Shane Cadden Excellent points. I think Kylo/Ben's motivations run far deeper than has been explained on-screen (so far). After finding out the truth about his grandfather shortly before the flashback scene in TLJ (canon), Ben likely did his research... and in doing so discovered the Prophecy of the Chosen One (as it pertains to Anakin)... and also the probable identity of Rey, which is why he told her to "let the past die" and asked her to join him... "please." I think Ben will be 'forced' to sacrifice himself to fulfill his destiny and bring balance to the Force. Whether it 'redeems' him for what he's done will be up to the individual... and the Force.

  • NRAWKER
    NRAWKER 5 months ago

    I think we will see Ian Mack play him in full form. I don’t think Disney would have had him come out on stage for nothing. I like the possession idea a lot. But part of me wants him to be alive somehow??? I just love that actor/character

    • NRAWKER
      NRAWKER 5 months ago

      I wouldn't call it a spoiler, more "Hype builder" lol
      @LET'S TALK

    • LET'S TALK
      LET'S TALK 5 months ago

      Why would they have him come out and spoil it at all if he were actually important to the film...

  • Orlano Fanis
    Orlano Fanis 5 months ago +1

    I didn’t think the new season of stranger things would be spoiled for me in a video about star wars. Thanks

    • Ryan Bradshaw
      Ryan Bradshaw 5 months ago +1

      @Orlano Fanis ah sorry understood, sorry I just assumed you had probably seen a trailer. I rescind my comment

    • Orlano Fanis
      Orlano Fanis 5 months ago +1

      Ryan Bradshaw i didn’t watch any trailer to avoid spoiler, and i am not the only one. I understand why people don’t think it’s a spoiler. I am just sad about it. If i knew i would have skipped this video. That’s all. Not angry or anything.

    • Ryan Bradshaw
      Ryan Bradshaw 5 months ago

      Everyone knows that Billy is gonna be merged with a monster. The trailers literally show it happening. Its not a spoiler or even theory its point blank. Nothings spoiled

    • Tyler Pifer
      Tyler Pifer 5 months ago

      It's not released until July 4th so I'm not sure what Josh is talking about. Unless it's a popular synopsis.

  • Joe Haselwood
    Joe Haselwood 5 months ago +3

    I thought Kylo may get redeemed, but honestly I'm not so sure anymore. The backlash JJ would get for 'copying' the OT would be crazy so I like to think he's smarter than that and learnt from his mistakes in TFA

    • Arvel Crynyd
      Arvel Crynyd 5 months ago

      Matt McAllum, that's a bit defeatist. I just consider haters to be just that, haters. Not fans. Not real ones anyway. How the hell is someone a fan of something if they hate it, there's no logic to that. My feeling is that some folks are just fans of hate and/or feel like they don't have as much control over their personal lives so they bully people on the internet for liking things to boost their egos.

    • Arvel Crynyd
      Arvel Crynyd 5 months ago

      Here's what bothers the F out of me: people assuming that if Kylo gets redeemed it'll HAVE to be exactly like Vader. Why can't he be redeemed in a unique way we've never seen before?
      Look up inverse or reverse Anakin theory and call me in the morning. TBH I'm pretty sure I coined that theory, I only ever saw people talking about it after I mentioned it in a Rule of Two and Girls With Sabers video from last year.
      Anyway, in sum it's the idea that Kylo's redemption in TROS will be somewhat parallel to Anakin's fall in ROTS. Conflicted throughout the film until faced with a pivotal ultimatum. Anakin's was betraying Mace in the Chancellor's office, Kylo will have a similar moment too however it'll be the opposite, he'll turn to the light instead of the dark.
      To me that would be awesome, but that's just my opinion. It would have that SW feel to it, that "it rhymes".

    • Matt McCallum
      Matt McCallum 5 months ago +2

      He’s going to get backlash no matter what he does cause nobody hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans

    • LET'S TALK
      LET'S TALK 5 months ago +7

      He'll get a backlash for doing something new and different too, which is why he'll just do whatever he wants and not worry about the audience because he's an artist, not our servant.

  • JayMane
    JayMane 5 months ago +1

    Isn't this the wack who had a meltdown over not getting to go to Galaxy's Edge for free? Obnoxious.

  • duN dUN DUN
    duN dUN DUN 5 months ago +1

    I have absolutely no idea what’s going to happen, but I want to see a Skywalker having risen to his full potential in the dark side, whereas Vader never could due to his injuries and, in the end, his weakness for his family and the hand lent to him by his son. Even though Kylo Ren is the villain, I feel like he’s been much more complicated than that and we’ve been through quite a lot with him, gotten to know him pretty well. I want him to become who he wants himself to be, which is a truly committed, relentless, evil villain. He was afraid that he’d never be as strong as Darth Vader, so let’s see him topple his fear and become even stronger! He’s completely capable of it. I don’t need a Vader retread.

    • Arvel Crynyd
      Arvel Crynyd 5 months ago

      There's a huge argument in there though, is that TRULY who he wants to be or a product of Snoke's manipulation? Like Leia said to Han in TFA, "it was always Snoke..." or whatever.. It's established that Snoke was very predatory towards Ben since he was very young. And we see him acting abusively towards Kylo in their first scene together in TLJ.
      So basically, I want him to be who he wants to be too. But we may have different interpretations of what that is.

  • DestructableMe
    DestructableMe 5 months ago +1

    She is a clone of him/ Anikan

    • LET'S TALK
      LET'S TALK 5 months ago

      Apparently you don't know what a clone is. If she's a clone she should be male and look like Anakin.

  • DestructableMe
    DestructableMe 5 months ago +1

    Set is looking better

  • BOSTON STEVE
    BOSTON STEVE 5 months ago +1

    honestly who cares? i loved star wars but after what ruin johnson and kathleen kennedy did in episode 8 and how NOBODY but mark hamill admitted it was fucked up how can anybody care? they ruined star wars and it cant be fixed....especally since all i hear is jj cant finish well so why are we thinking this could be good? its all leading towards being bad....sorry 2 be so negative but thank ruin johnson and kathleen kennedy

  • LET'S TALK
    LET'S TALK 5 months ago +2

    He won't. The trailer laugh is a misdirect.

    • mattris matt
      mattris matt 5 months ago

      It was confirmed at SWC - either by JJ or KK - that Palpatine will return "in the flesh".

    • LET'S TALK
      LET'S TALK 5 months ago

      @kirschakos attending star wars celebration doesn't mean somebody is in the movie.....and if he was you certainly wouldn't spoil it.

    • kirschakos
      kirschakos 5 months ago

      Sure, and the actor was a misdirect too, ha? No paycheck would have make him do that to the fans. Just watch his reactions to the love people gives him during big events.

  • Sean Reynolds
    Sean Reynolds 5 months ago +15

    Good gawd please replace Roxie. She is terrible.

    • iddqd06
      iddqd06 5 months ago

      Yall buggin. Roxy is awesome

    • CharterRisky
      CharterRisky 5 months ago +1

      I watch these little clips because I value Harloff's opinion on SW. Soon as Roxie chimes in, i'm out...she just isn't my cup of tea

  • Ewan Callister
    Ewan Callister 5 months ago +2

    If they bring him back as a Clone I’ll walk out of the cinema cause that is Bullshit!