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So the software was uploaded. American Airlines knew it (they had to, because they paid for it. They DID NOT buy the proprietary breakdown of what the software did, because it's not cheap. They kept costs low and put their pilots in the dark. I am not advocating for Boeing or for the software, but American Airlines is trying to pass the blame and using the media to do so. I would bet every dollar that I have that pilot/maintainer training, breakdown of codes (failures reported to the cockpit in hexadecimal), and additional support was offered in the software upgrade. They didn't want to pay.Since they didn't, I also guarantee that the pilots and crew were not qualified to clear a plane 'safe for flight', and did not reach out to Boeing Field Reps. No, I am not a current employee, but am very aware of how Boeing and the rest of the aircraft manufacturers conduct business. If American Airlines wanted an upgrade they needed to not penny pinch.
These American CEOs must be devil’s worshippers.
Boeing might as well scrap those planes. No one wants to fly on one.
"Boeing execs hijack 737 at gunpoint to prove it flies perfectly fine"
LOL is BOEING CHINESE??? NOOOO, ITS MADE IN THE GOOD OL' ,CURRENTLY ROTTING, U.S of Israel
Its always about cutting corners to increase profits or less work hours for overworked employees. Capitalism will always make profits (GREED) more important than quality work, and disaster is the only inevitable outcome. THIS IS WHY CAPITALISM AND CAPITALISTS NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO HEEL IN AMERICA!!! CAPITALISM NEEDS TO BE CHOPPED DOWN TO SIZE AND TEMPERED WITH A LITTLE MORE SOCIALISM (dont worry were not going to become venezuela or the former soviet union you airheaded chicken-shit centrists and conservatives).WAKE THE F%K UP AMERICANS AND VOTE TULSI GABBARD or BERNIE in 2020
The problem is their talking to someone that doesn't know how it works or anything works. They need to be talking to an engineer.
"but we dont want to do a crappy job" i wonder how many times that was not the case 🤔
Planes need to be flown by humans. Not computers!!!
That was not a heated argument...wtf
Listen up you BOING & PILOTS...THIS IS NOT ABOUT "YOU"...THIS IS ALL ABOUT "US" THE PEOPLE (Travelers) WHO PAYS YOU D SALARIES, D COMMISSIONS, D SUBSIDIES, D O.T DUTIES & ALL D INCOMES U GET!..ALL THAT COMES FROM US!...WITHOUT US YOU WOULD B "NOTHING"!..so...STOP bla bla bla and START GETTING THE THING DONE...START DOING YOUR "HOMEWORK" IN PERFECTION IN ORDER TO PROVIDE US A BETTER "SAFETY" & "TRUST"!!...KEEP ALLWAYS IN MIND "YOU OWE US"...NOT D OTHER WAY ROUND!!...got it mr.BOING & PILOTS??..."US"...all ABOUT "US"!😈
Yep, they are too software dependent. The original 737 planes did not have that problem
Both crashes could have been prevented. They owed their pilots more credit.
OMG, so evasive about their mistakes and so clear about ignorance!
Michael strahan is a full on news guy? Good for him
Bunch of circle talk
i dont here any angry pilots its just a discussion stop with the clickbait
After Ethiopia their share dropped 100$
Just finished watching Chernobyl on HBO. This reminds me of that.
It will only get worse in the future as companies get bigger and bigger.
we have the power.....stop flying completely and watch big companies squirm
Strahan you cant been speak clearly.your a god damm token
This is but one example of the corruption that now permeates all of governance in the United States.
Boeing is criminal in this...they need to be punished
The FAA and airlines are corrupt. They hide evidence of UFOs.
I don't care , I will never fly on a plane, they also ruin our atmosphere
Watching as there are 737k views
And you wonder why people are switching to Airbus, your move Boeing, your fucking move.
It's funny; those Ethiopians can't even get visa to come to us present their case. This is how they figured out to protect boeing
Boeing saying they don't want to overwhelm pilots with information as an excuse? What a cop-out, total B.S. This is really damning of the company.
Folks this is what monopoly looks like; Profits at any cost even if it means a bunch of dead bodies. There has to be more aircraft companies competing in this space.
When thid mike thyson become a newths reporter?
SOUNDS INSANE!! Boeing sounds like they don't know what theyre doing, very scary!
How is it that if I modify my wife's car with an evil intent unbeknown to her and she crashes and dies I'm charged with manslaughter. But if I modify a plane and hundreds of innocents die I get to shrug my shoulder and call it just another day at work???
Why is Michael Strahan pretending to be a news personality ? Shits hella weird
This gets better everyday...
I worked for a vendor for Boeing. You do not know how bad Boeing is on safety. They truly believe in"Tombstone Technology".
I refuse to fly on Boeing aircraft . Have done so for thirty years.
fly a boeing through that guys teeth gap
Thank god it was Ethiopia and not a useful country
Feels so nice not giving my money to airlines anymore. Road trips are much better anyway.
And.... here’s a perfect example of a company man blowing smoke up your ass!
An Uber driver claims it’s all a hoax - the pilots worked for the UN and were assassinated. No idea what kind of motive there could be, but apparently people don’t care about logic anymore.
They’re so lucky the crashes didn’t happen in America or Boeing would’ve been screwed
The truth is they’ll just get away for this again.
@1:40 so in other words when it happens your fucked!
Hey Boeing. Fuck you today too.
Is this that gay nfl player? Lmao
The Aviation industry better make up their minds do you want pilots or some freakin machine flying the plane, those so called life savers have killed more people than Engine failure, mid airs fuel exhaustion put together.
I never had a good experience flying with AA. Flight attendants are awful and impolite. Food is a piece of shit. They never reform it. I hope AA to going out of business. Shouldn't increase victims.
Smells like a planned and rigged corporate Coup.....Just like 911🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Ohhhhhhh Aaahhhhhhmereeeeekkka
"Once in a million miles and we do not think its necessary to give then that information" Ummm HOW IS HE NOT LOCKED UP?
Pleading? Angry? No- the pilots demonstrated a surprisingly controlled (almost emotionless) and underwhelming response to the Boeing rep talking to them like a 10 year old. "Now we don't want to fix the wrong things and we do want to fix the right things, see Johnny?" WTF?!
Don’t fly American
The ownership, the shareholders, the designers, no freakin' shame. The BOTTOM LINE is all that matters. American style Capitalism at its most raw... MULTIPLE people in leadership positions NEED to go to prison.
They gonna sell this airplanes to Chinese for trade balance and depopulation of Chinese
I will never feel safe flying.
Another day, another dollar, another life.
These companies are calculating human lives and lawsuits into their profit margins. Human life is not priceless. You have a number in their excel statistics.
So, they introduced a system that more or less takes control of the plane in an emergency, but didn't tell the pilots?Wow.
B n Not “more or less”. Completely takes over the flight path of the plane. And if the sensor is faulty (only one sensor to avoid regulations that would have required additional flight training) then it will nose down into the ground. It’s the biggest scandal in aviation history.
Big corporations always get away with murder! Nothing to see here folks
2:28 I hear a lot of words but not a lot of information. That's just nonsensical dribble.
un be lie va ble
The Boeing official sounds shady and the pilots sound like honest, good guys.
It's really sad to think that drone Pilots are testing their software more than Boeing is testing their actual pilot software
Skynet is alive!
Boeing should have revealed the MCAS system to the pilots - no doubt. But they also failed to make an override for it.Every system on an airplane should not only have a backup to verify but also a way to override - period!Boeing has two angle of attack sensors but it only takes info from one at a time - an essence leaving the fate of every passenger in crew up to one stupid sensor - How dumb is that? What's the purpose of the other sensor then?Boeing has traditionally had redundant systems to avoid catastrophic accidents but in the max 737 has only one system with two sensors but only takes information from one at a time. Duh!In comparison, Airbus has three sensors...While Boeing is now trying to upgrade their software to incorporate the information from BOTH sensors the Seattle times says "Boeing has indicated that the MCAS safety system will not function when the sensors record substantial disagreement."So, essentially we're back in the same boat.Boeing needs a third, Independent sensor to verify the data with a way to dismiss the erroneous data AND they need to create a way to override the whole damn thing.
Made in America
There goes the almighty dollar against human safety and wellbeing
I have a 16 hour flight in 2 weeks with AA. Am I gonna die?
I'm so confused.. Why does this software push the stick down? Is it if that planes about to stall?
Does this man actually have a picture of the twin towers in his mouth ?
Designed to crash a plane, prevent terrorist form landing in buildings.Enabling software to nose down when away from public areas...don’t want to scare us that they can remotely do this, so they don’t tell us.Welcome to America folks
Flying is fkking scary. The opportunities to make mistakes or come out alive from a mishap are very slim......
The entire C-suite of executives should be fired and the in-house/consultants for risk management. Fired, sued, jailed. Worse than Enron.
This reporter needs to shut the fuck up and let us listen to the conversation.
Manslaughter motivated by greed. Why haven't the perpetrators been arrested and charged?
A bombshell? Pleading?
Didn't hear anyone ''bordering on anger'' as the clowns at abc said, more fake news
rob robi The pilots are pissed off but were being professional enough to not let it show too much. Watch other videos from pilots talking about this being kept secret. They were livid.
*That a new system could nose down the aircraft and may have contributed to the crash*This sounds like straight out of the Onion
Why do people even fly with boeing is the tickets cheap or something ?
If the pilot gets fired or anything that prohibits this man to feed his family due to his brave actions we must set up a Gofund me page man. True hero right there
This should bring criminal charges! But you can kill people to save a buck if you're a Billionaire apparently.
Boeing Should be shut down, it lost it's credibility and so should FAA. #shutdoenboeing
A number of Boeing & FAA directors & executives need to be charged for manslaughter. To include any politicians who tried to provide cover for them.
1:50 really? What a stupid excuse they should make that person travel in nothing but this planes ✈️
Boeing is hella stupid,, revenge,eye for an eye..no amount of money can replace loved ones.
Cull the ultrarich
Fuck Boeing, where is all that competition that capitalism is suppose to create??
This is what happens when they permit accountants to make decisions over Engineers.
I flew once. Wasn't bad, but after the last 20 years, no thanks, if we were meant to fly, we'd have wings.
@CriscDogs22 No fear my friend, if it were necessary for me to fly, I would. Yet there is no necessity for me. I prefer absolute control over my means of conveyance.
Joe Lewis yes but the last American commercial flight to crash was 2009. 2017 saw no commercial flight crashes. Statistically every time you get in your car you are more likely to die in an accident too. Fear is only in your head, and I’d encourage you to explore the world while you can, but to each their own.
@CriscDogs22 sure sure, agreed, but are you aware of the jump in statistical possibility of death in the last 20 yrs?
Joe Lewis is your life that boring? Do u intend to sail to see Rome, or Paris, or Moscow, or Tokyo?? God gave man a “mind” to achieve what is beyond the limit of other species...
LMAO, AINT CATCHING NO BODY ON ANY 737 EVER AGAIN...Damage was done...Make a new plane... change the name ot something.
software fix or not my ass ain’t gonna be flying on a max ever. It’s a design flaw that tries using software to correct the way the plane should fly.
Why are the pilots going on strike/Sue
I really hope America paying attention to this.
It's not just a software fix that's needed, it's a HARDWARE FIX !
One word... manslaughter