If you trick NFL refs into giving you a timeout, you pay the price

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  • Published on Apr 15, 2019
  • The last thing any NFL ref wants, is for someone to pull the wool over their eyes. These highly skilled professionals are trained to waive off any attempt for a second consecutive timeout but sometimes they get caught with their pants down. In such cases, you better watch out because the football police doesn't take kindly to looking like fools.
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  • Stefano Paci
    Stefano Paci 3 days ago

    Check out this awesome RUGBY weird rule, this match was unreal www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/sports/rugby/rugby-ruck-italy-six-nations.html

  • wanderlustwarrior
    wanderlustwarrior 4 days ago

    5 minutes in:
    This isn't as fun as the NBA and NHL rule changes... Wait, why am I watching an episode about gridiron football? That sport *sucks*. Nowhere near as athletic or quick thinking as hockey or basketball, and the "weird rules" for it also are inferior.

  • MotionGaming
    MotionGaming 8 days ago

    Seems like a bad idea. Very aware refs could choose to accept the time out and dole out the penalty or wave off the penalty at their discretion. I would think when writing the rules you would want the ref's role to only be enforcement and not a decision maker for if they would prefer to deny or penalize a timeout call.

  • Knightmessenger
    Knightmessenger 14 days ago

    I'd love to see icing the kicker be an automatic penalty, just to discourage teams from doing it.

  • The JackMan
    The JackMan 19 days ago

    So you can only ice once... never knew that

  • Krummy Raider
    Krummy Raider 19 days ago

    I remember that game and I was pissed.

  • heyandy x
    heyandy x 23 days ago +2

    15-17? 18-17? Boys we're in scorigami territory

  • Samantha Dickerman
    Samantha Dickerman 24 days ago

    Don’t want to be embarrassed?
    Become an NFL official

  • Blaine Wells
    Blaine Wells 27 days ago

    what I love, is this is like... the fun nerdy side of sports rules.

  • Clay Page
    Clay Page 28 days ago +4

    The Bills against the Redskins. That sounds like a terrible game.
    That was once a Superbowl.

    • Clay Page
      Clay Page 22 days ago

      @Elooong Musk I hooked Washington and the over. I thought it was great!

    • Elooong Musk
      Elooong Musk 22 days ago +1

      It wasn’t good then either, the redskins destroyed them

  • Chase Bowers
    Chase Bowers 28 days ago

    16-17 btw not 17-18

  • Caleb Holliman
    Caleb Holliman Month ago

    It’s Pete Carroll........ the same guy who threw it at the 2 yard line 😂

  • Mr. Luck
    Mr. Luck Month ago

    What if the Ref allows the timeout on purpose?

  • Eric Hammer
    Eric Hammer Month ago

    If you get penalized for getting away with it, you're not getting away with it.

  • Broken King
    Broken King Month ago

    Robot Refs will be awesome.

  • Aurelius R
    Aurelius R Month ago

    If you want to watch that double ice, here it is: tvclip.biz/video/VGmNe4uFDjg/video.html

    • Aurelius R
      Aurelius R Month ago

      Also, in a weird twist, that was the first game played after Sean Taylor's shooting death in the home invasion.

  • HeadCanon
    HeadCanon Month ago +1

    12 players on the field for the Seahawks? So the fans are now the 13th Man

  • Gilgamesh Indaflesh

    ...can I call a time out after I challenge a play?

  • Justin Cobb
    Justin Cobb Month ago

    I'll tell my Dad you said hello. He'll probably tell me to say hello back. So... Gary says hello.

  • Nathan Jessee
    Nathan Jessee Month ago

    As a high school sports official (football and basketball), I take offense to the idea that I have a massive ego. Granted, I have called games with guys who had massive ego's in general and just happen to also officiate high school sports.

  • ByloBand
    ByloBand Month ago +1

    #SneakyPete (2:24) #GoHawks

  • nickrichard5052
    nickrichard5052 Month ago +4

    Hey you guys should cover "Bird rights/the Bird rule" in the NBA

  • 6th Wilbury
    6th Wilbury Month ago

    "Icing the kicker... it's part of the game." Yeah, even though it has been shown time and time again that it doesn't work. i.e. coaches are just as stubborn and egotistical as officials.

  • kakarroto007
    kakarroto007 Month ago

    Gary never had a TVclip account.

  • SendixBunny
    SendixBunny Month ago +1

    17-16 was the final score of that Bills Redskins game, not 18-17.

  • Micah Bisharah
    Micah Bisharah Month ago

    The No Fun League

  • slycordinator
    slycordinator Month ago

    Statistically, icing the kicker doesn't work.

  • LastTourniquet
    LastTourniquet Month ago +2

    This rule just leaves room for exploitation.
    (using your example) if a kicker gets iced once and then the call comes in for another time out and the ref ignores it all is good, but if the ref KNOWS its against the rules and just wants to punish you they can "forget" about the rule and then 5 seconds later just say.. 'oh never mind 15 yard penalty'. Am I missing something here? I don't watch sports (find this channel just interesting for videos like this) but is it not common practice to get refs that just *know* the rules so stuff like this doesn't happen?

  • Dobbys Vlogs
    Dobbys Vlogs Month ago

    That happens all the time with icing the kicker though?? How do they get away with it?

  • Christo du Plessis
    Christo du Plessis 2 months ago +1

    That Skins Bills game was the first weekend of me living in the US. I was in the Fort Myers area where Sean Taylor was murdered a few days before (my first day there). I felt so bad for the Skins losing on a 15 yard penalty.

    • Christo du Plessis
      Christo du Plessis Month ago

      @Javien Taylor I was only there for a year, was great though, the US is a great country, been back twice for vacations.

    • Javien Taylor
      Javien Taylor Month ago

      Wow, well hows the u.s been treating you lately

  • SmellsLikeBrass
    SmellsLikeBrass 2 months ago +3

    I'm just looking for a Gary but it seems like there is no Gary. :-(

  • MrSmapdi
    MrSmapdi 2 months ago

    The NFL in no way has too many rules.

  • Vincent Killion
    Vincent Killion 2 months ago +111

    I've never understood why the double timeout rule even existed. Yeah if, in the worst case scenario, all 6 timeouts (both teams) happened at once, it would take a long time, but teams don't have more after that. It's not like the game overall would take longer. It would just be a mini-halftime during the half, instead of several micro-halftimes.

    • 9WET
      9WET 16 days ago

      Yeet Good point, i wonder how many other rules are for this reason or have a reason like this in them?

    • Rowgue51
      Rowgue51 26 days ago

      While this is a situation that would rarely ever come up because of the fact that teams only have three timeouts per half it does have both practical and broadcasting purposes.

    • Yeet
      Yeet Month ago +5

      Vincent Killion I think it’s beacuse the fans watching may tune off of the game beacuse of the constent timeouts with no game. Also cause advertisers may want ads spread through the game. The rule is prob for the business side of the game not the practical use

  • JT ΩΩ
    JT ΩΩ 2 months ago

    What if the ref decides to give the 2nd timeout on purpose?

    • Ed Tschoepe
      Ed Tschoepe 2 months ago

      I was wondering that too. They could have it in for the team asking for the second timeout and decide to give it to them, knowing they'll be penalized later. Ha! We need another rule and more review!

  • Elite Soulfly
    Elite Soulfly 2 months ago

    I don’t get this. When a team ices a kicker don’t they use two timeouts?

    • Qui P
      Qui P 2 months ago

      Elite Soulfly one team might use a timeout to stop the clock, but the team actually icing the kicker only uses 1

  • Raymond Hmuifoo
    Raymond Hmuifoo 2 months ago +43

    "And so, in a very un-Bills-like moment, they end up making this new, shorter attempt, and they win 18 to 17 in the last few seconds of the game." Got a good laugh outta me.

    • Maxcrss
      Maxcrss 21 day ago +1

      One of the few times it wasn’t a laugh ofpain thanks to the Bills.

  • Austin Davis
    Austin Davis 2 months ago

    A weird (and very dumb) rule that needs to be changed is that fumbling out of the endzone gives the other team a touchback. This only makes sense when punting the ball. If the offense fumbles, and it rolls out of bounds anywhere else on the field, even at the 1yd line, they get the ball at that spot. But if you’re about to score, you fumble the ball and it rolls into the endzone and out of bounds, it’s a turnover and the other team gets it at the 20... 🤨

    • MAV VuCrew
      MAV VuCrew 2 months ago

      What else would they do? Snap it in the end zone?

  • kadrope
    kadrope 2 months ago +18

    That Bills--Redskins game was right after Sean Taylor died smh was a totally heartbreaking loss

  • Thomas Urech
    Thomas Urech 2 months ago

    Delays from reviewing plays don't make the game too long, ads make the game too long. Like the Oscars. They shorten the time for speeches because the ceremony takes too long, but interrupt the show with a long commercial break every 5 minutes! The general public appreciates people who work on makeup and costumes once a year, but the little guys get nixed because people were mad about A-listers getting political. Football games are the same way. All those commercial breaks and "media timeouts" drag the game out to a crawl far more than one or two extra challenges or reviews. Until the NFL gets better refs (and/or clearer rules), those reviews should happen. If you hate that games are 4 hours long, remember that 60% is commercials.

  • Paul Dokken
    Paul Dokken 2 months ago

    Weird rule idea: The time Tiger Woods had a bunch of fans move a giant rock from in front of his ball so he could have a clear shot.

  • Ronnie Orris
    Ronnie Orris 2 months ago

    Hi Gary

  • Tet UnOffensive
    Tet UnOffensive 2 months ago +3

    So it’s the refs choice to either wave it off or grant the time out and then slap on the penalty.

  • Paulo Javier
    Paulo Javier 2 months ago

    It’s just a prank, bro!!!
    Look, camera!

  • I leave mean comments
    I leave mean comments 2 months ago

    Wow... you guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for video ideas, eh?

  • Magic Catfish
    Magic Catfish 2 months ago +1

    The Bills vs Redskins game was the week following Sean Taylor's death.

  • Fox D
    Fox D 2 months ago +52

    SBNation's art team outdid themselves on this one. Outstanding.

  • jesusthroughmary
    jesusthroughmary 2 months ago +7

    Should just be called delay of game. Done.

  • DrZaius3141
    DrZaius3141 2 months ago

    That's a perfectly reasonable rule. Being a ref (at least most positions of ref) requires laser focus, especially in the seconds before the snap. And with all those late time outs coming in, there is a serious issue about reacting to them quickly (otherwise you get a snap with one team playing and the other team not playing, which is a huge injury risk). So take your pick: do you want coaches and player having the chance to call a time out half a second before the play clock runs out and them reacting fast enough or do you want them to ponder whether a time out is legitimate first? It happens. So the people to blame are the ones that try to do something they aren't allowed to. Ignorance doesn't protect from punishment.

  • Randy Randalman
    Randy Randalman 2 months ago +2

    Refs screw up and your team gets a penalty for their incompetence. How is that fair?

  • Eric Villar
    Eric Villar 2 months ago +1

    If a Gary watched this video, reply under this comment.

  • Manny
    Manny 2 months ago

    PLEASE do a rewind on the 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix

  • OG Chuckster
    OG Chuckster 2 months ago

    YES it's nice to see the Bills win when there's a story about them lmao

  • KevinG99
    KevinG99 2 months ago +10

    I’ve known this rule for a long time because Madden doesn’t let you take 2 timeouts in a row

  • cflasch75
    cflasch75 2 months ago +1

    It was called on MN in the 09 NFC championship game

  • Brian Pacos
    Brian Pacos 2 months ago

    The Bills won 17-16 btw

  • Brandon McGowan
    Brandon McGowan 2 months ago

    finally something besides the stupid beef history episodes

  • Axis&Allies
    Axis&Allies 2 months ago

    You guys need to do a episode of the Buffalo Bills ending the 17 yr playoff drought. So much had to happen on that New Years eve night. It would be such a great episode

    • Andrew M
      Andrew M 2 months ago

      I’m certain that has already been done! NFL TURNING POINT covered it. And there was an entire 30-minute documentary about it in the Buffalo area just days after the Bills Wild Card Game in Jacksonville. (It’s called PLAYOFF CALIBER. And you can find it on TVclip). So unless these guys can find actual evidence of a conspiracy theory that no one has talked about, they would have infringed on the copyright © of TWO different television programs.

  • shassan95
    shassan95 2 months ago

    That was so cringe

  • chuck430
    chuck430 2 months ago

    penalized for the ref's mistakes?

  • stu desmond
    stu desmond 2 months ago +1

    These guys are horrible to listen to

  • Coach Cason
    Coach Cason 2 months ago

    It would have had to be Pete Carroll or Bill Billicheck. Those are the only two coaches that could have pulled that off.

  • Matt Brigidi
    Matt Brigidi 2 months ago

    hey it’s me. gary. hello ryan

  • EricPlayz
    EricPlayz 2 months ago

    N

  • Yeezer Leezer
    Yeezer Leezer 2 months ago

    Bruh literally the opening to this is stupid, like they are people too, of course they don’t want to be made fun of? Who does? Tf. You act like since they are “refs” they are like not human and something different. Like of course they don’t want to be made into fools.

  • RJ Carmenates
    RJ Carmenates 2 months ago +2

    Rewinder: Jayson Werths 13 pitch walk-off homerun in the NLDS

  • nickability
    nickability 2 months ago

    So if the refs didn't catch the second timeout being called, how are any of the refs aware enough to call the 5 yard/15 yard penalty if they don't know there is a penalty in the first place? Does one ref have to just remember, suddenly, last second that they can't call 2 consecutive timeouts?

  • Karson Brady
    Karson Brady 2 months ago +1

    Please do a rewinder on Brett Hull’s goal in game 6 of the 1999 Stanley cup finals. Aka his foot was in the crease

  • Hammer Hartz
    Hammer Hartz 2 months ago

    Sorry, I’m a prankster.😐

    Please don’t ban meeeee!

  • Katelyn Becker
    Katelyn Becker 2 months ago +3

    Vitamin C is great for the immune system. Good for when you are sick and as a preventative when doing things like traveling or meeting people.

  • David DeChamplain
    David DeChamplain 2 months ago

    Officials don't like looking stupid or being proven wrong. Who does?

  • Anthony Clauser
    Anthony Clauser 2 months ago +2

    Strange fact - the Bills had like the 4th highest total attendance that year. Stranger fact - the Redskins had the highest total attendance.
    So...

  • Denise Kress
    Denise Kress 2 months ago

    Peter Peter 🏉🍆eater

  • Dr. Martin van Nostrand
    Dr. Martin van Nostrand 2 months ago +28

    The lack of Sean Taylor being referenced in that Bills/'Skins game made me sad and I'm not even a 'Skins fan.

    • Adam Moreira
      Adam Moreira 21 day ago

      @thegoldfly1 -- This was the first game after he was murdered in a home invasion.

    • thegoldfly1
      thegoldfly1 2 months ago

      Or did you mean during the game? Was taking that as him not being mentioned during this video.

    • thegoldfly1
      thegoldfly1 2 months ago +1

      Why would he be referenced?

  • Tom Bombadil
    Tom Bombadil 2 months ago +1

    I remember that Redskins game with the Joe Gibbs coaching. Mind you this was Gibbs' second coming with the Skins. After winning two Super Bowl's, he took a bunch of years off and we began to collapse. Then he returned in all of his glory to save us (really he just needed the extra cash), only to make stupid mistakes like that for two years.

  • Matt Henry
    Matt Henry 2 months ago

    Nerds

  • Jimmy Two-Times
    Jimmy Two-Times 2 months ago +1

    You guys are weenies

  • Jacob Kelly
    Jacob Kelly 2 months ago +5

    Talk about why you can’t fully stop while taking a penalty in soccer!

    • Jacob Kelly
      Jacob Kelly 2 months ago

      Spencer I know why, I just want them to make a video about it.

    • Spencer
      Spencer 2 months ago

      Jacob Kelly to make it more fair for the keeper. It allows them to know when the shot is coming and start moving before it happens. Otherwise it would be way to easy to score using trickery and waiting for the keeper to react.

  • Christopher Watts
    Christopher Watts 2 months ago

    So at 3:48, you say it's a 5-yard penalty. But you said the field goal in the Bills game was moved up 15 yards. Which is it?

    It'd make sense it were 15, but who knows?

    • Tyler Dzioba
      Tyler Dzioba 2 months ago

      Christopher Watts 15 yards is for double icing the kicker, 5 yards is for just double timeout

  • Jon B
    Jon B 2 months ago

    The Bills/Redskins game was the first game after Sean Taylor died, where the Redskins started 10 men on defense because of his passing.

  • drew wreds
    drew wreds 2 months ago +2

    Of all the dumb rules in the NFL, this is one of the smarter ones. They've taken away the incentive to try and cheat a consecutive timeout.

  • Adam Hernandez
    Adam Hernandez 2 months ago +6

    You guys have to do a NFL/NCAA 1 point Safety Video!

    • trippytropicana
      trippytropicana 2 months ago

      Not a dumb rule. It’s a natural result from the PAT being worth only 1 point and the safety rule

  • Aaron Thomas
    Aaron Thomas 2 months ago

    Can we get some more videos in the Collapse series please? Maybe one on the early 2000s Yankees, who struggled to get back to the top after losing to the Marlins in the 2003 World Series. Or one on the Detroit Pistons who pretty much fell apart after losing to the Celtics in the 08 ECF. Or one on the 90s Cowboys, 49ers or Bills. All of those franchises fell on hard times after having long runs of dominance. There are so many videos you guys could do for that series. I think it’s a great idea for video series and I hope you guys make some more!

  • twkbtw
    twkbtw 2 months ago

    I found the 2018 NFL rulebook it only contains 89 pages [1]. They were talking about a rulebook which contains 2000 pages. Where can I find that?
    [1] operations.nfl.com/media/3277/2018-nfl-rulebook_final-version.pdf

  • Wolfeson28
    Wolfeson28 2 months ago +1

    "Officials don't like being made to look stupid."
    Well, maybe they should stop being stupid all the time.

  • Brian DeShazo
    Brian DeShazo 2 months ago

    I'm sorry, but this is just the kind of stupid, arrogant behavior that makes NFL fans despise the referees and the league office. If they don't want to look stupid, then enforce the rules correctly. Don't penalize a team 15 yards for what is essentially your own incompetence.

  • TheWatchernator
    TheWatchernator 2 months ago +1

    Icing the kicker is the stupidest tradition/mantra in sports.

  • Mark Lister
    Mark Lister 2 months ago

    I love this series!! I hardly even like sports but man this has me hooked!!

  • Cancer Police
    Cancer Police 2 months ago

    I swear from the way a lot of the refs act, they were probably bullied hard in school

  • Jeremy Fridy
    Jeremy Fridy 2 months ago

    I would love to see SB Nation take a look at that madness that is "Bottlegate," the infamous Cleveland/Jacksonville game in December of 2001. I'm not sure which SB Nation show would handle it, because it involves a critical rule, bonkers reffing, a lot of rewind context, and it all ends in chaos.

  • Raymond Hall
    Raymond Hall 2 months ago

    Joe Gibbs got called for this long before Pete Carroll. I thought this was common knowledge and that there was already a rule to make it a penalty.
    Edit: should have finished watching the video before i commented

  • InternetExplorers
    InternetExplorers 2 months ago

    I love these series

  • maxscameraguy
    maxscameraguy 2 months ago +6

    I remember the Joe Gibbs moment. Was actually a watchable game in a mid 2000s deadskins way.

  • Nacho Man Randy Sandwich
    Nacho Man Randy Sandwich 2 months ago +3

    Ol' sneaky Pete, how I love you GO HAWKS

  • Cody
    Cody 2 months ago

    I like to save Ryan videos for when I poop.

  • Lars Nelson
    Lars Nelson 2 months ago

    This rule set wouldn’t exist if they let you stack timeouts

  • Gary Gibbs II
    Gary Gibbs II 2 months ago

    Dude you scared the hell out of me at the end of that video, don't do that.

  • Justin Campbell
    Justin Campbell 2 months ago +173

    "You cant double ice anyone."
    Sounds like a mortal kombat sub zero joke.

  • TylerFortierPhotography
    TylerFortierPhotography 2 months ago +3

    If you trick NFL refs into giving you a timeout, they trick you into running on 4th and one with Marshawn Lynch.

  • Sgv_Sth
    Sgv_Sth 2 months ago

    4:10 - Eh, I always hated icing the kicker as it was usually pointless.

    • Sgv_Sth
      Sgv_Sth 2 months ago

      @macpack144 :P
      Icing the Kicker rarely works and usually benefits the kicker.

    • macpack144
      macpack144 2 months ago +1

      Well the team calling a timeout certainly hopes it is pointless.

  • Matt Anderson
    Matt Anderson 2 months ago

    I watched this game hawks would have won anyway Dallas could not move the ball