If you trick NFL refs into giving you a timeout, you pay the price | Weird Rules

  • Published on Apr 15, 2019
  • The last thing any NFL ref wants, is for someone to pull the wool over their eyes. These highly skilled professionals are trained to waive off any attempt for a second consecutive timeout but sometimes they get caught with their pants down. In such cases, you better watch out because the football police doesn't take kindly to looking like fools.
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  • william dowling
    william dowling 14 days ago

    This seems like it gives some seriously influential discretion to the umpire... If he happens to favor one team or another (or perhaps there was an incident with one team in the first half or something and he's still salty) then he can choose to "accidentally" grant the second timeout to punish that team (or wave it off to prevent a penalty for the other team).
    If it's going to be illegal to call a second timeout, there should be no reason to factor in whether the ref granted the illegal timeout.. That's kind of nuts.

  • Eric Herstedt
    Eric Herstedt 20 days ago

    Is there a Gary in the house?

  • DJ Tommy C.
    DJ Tommy C. Month ago

    The lions once lost a game bs Hou on thanksgiving because they threw. Challenge flag on a play that would have Been automatically reviewed

  • Alexánder Álvarez

    That's why american sports are B O R I N G
    Why do you even need a time out for having too many people on the field?
    In football (the real one, not handegg rugby wannabe), you need to have all the players listed before they can come on the field, and when there's a substitution, you need to register the player and the one switching out.
    And if there's an extra player, he just gets send away, or sent home.
    Why do you even need a time out whatsoever? Do you guys really need time to think strategies? Then what are trainings for?
    American sports are so slow paced... that's why I can't stand handegg and baseball, you need to wait too much time for something to happen.

  • remember old fashioned trousers?

    Pete Carroll didn't "break the rules", he asked for the time out, not forced them to give a timeout. They are the ones enforcing the rules and if they gave it the mistake is theirs.

  • Derrick McGlaughlin

    I just found this channel last week and it’s without a doubt one of my favorite channels

  • Ulquiorra Cifer
    Ulquiorra Cifer Month ago

    Sounds like a way to rig games if you ask me. So, the team gets punished if the refs don't pay attention. That's the literal job of the ref, to pay attention to the game.

  • Stefano Paci
    Stefano Paci Month ago

    Check out this awesome RUGBY weird rule, this match was unreal www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/sports/rugby/rugby-ruck-italy-six-nations.html

  • wanderlustwarrior
    wanderlustwarrior 2 months ago

    5 minutes in:
    This isn't as fun as the NBA and NHL rule changes... Wait, why am I watching an episode about gridiron football? That sport *sucks*. Nowhere near as athletic or quick thinking as hockey or basketball, and the "weird rules" for it also are inferior.

  • MotionGaming
    MotionGaming 2 months ago

    Seems like a bad idea. Very aware refs could choose to accept the time out and dole out the penalty or wave off the penalty at their discretion. I would think when writing the rules you would want the ref's role to only be enforcement and not a decision maker for if they would prefer to deny or penalize a timeout call.

  • Knightmessenger
    Knightmessenger 2 months ago

    I'd love to see icing the kicker be an automatic penalty, just to discourage teams from doing it.

  • The JackMan
    The JackMan 2 months ago

    So you can only ice once... never knew that

  • Krummy Raider
    Krummy Raider 2 months ago

    I remember that game and I was pissed.

  • heyandy x
    heyandy x 2 months ago +5

    15-17? 18-17? Boys we're in scorigami territory

  • Samantha Dickerman
    Samantha Dickerman 2 months ago

    Don’t want to be embarrassed?
    Become an NFL official

  • Blaine Wells
    Blaine Wells 2 months ago

    what I love, is this is like... the fun nerdy side of sports rules.

  • Clay Page
    Clay Page 2 months ago +9

    The Bills against the Redskins. That sounds like a terrible game.
    That was once a Superbowl.

    • Elooong Musk
      Elooong Musk 15 days ago

      Clay Page yea it was the best o-line in History... they had some crazy madden stats and they did it without a good QB and without the amazing receivers they had in the 80s.

    • Clay Page
      Clay Page 15 days ago

      @Elooong Musk Check out as much from that 1991 season as you can. Mark Rypien was sacked 9 times all year! They tore it up. It was one of those years that by week 10 you knew who the Superbowl champ was going to be, and I am not even a Redskins fan.

    • Elooong Musk
      Elooong Musk 16 days ago

      I wish I was alive to see it, I’m a huge skins fan

    • David Ozab
      David Ozab 16 days ago

      Which was both terrible (in that it was so one-sided) and awesome. HTTR!

    • Clay Page
      Clay Page 2 months ago

      @Elooong Musk I hooked Washington and the over. I thought it was great!

  • Chase Bowers
    Chase Bowers 2 months ago

    16-17 btw not 17-18

  • Caleb Holliman
    Caleb Holliman 3 months ago

    It’s Pete Carroll........ the same guy who threw it at the 2 yard line 😂

  • Mr. Luck
    Mr. Luck 3 months ago

    What if the Ref allows the timeout on purpose?

  • Eric Hammer
    Eric Hammer 3 months ago

    If you get penalized for getting away with it, you're not getting away with it.

  • Broken King
    Broken King 3 months ago +1

    Robot Refs will be awesome.

  • Aurelius R
    Aurelius R 3 months ago

    If you want to watch that double ice, here it is: tvclip.biz/video/VGmNe4uFDjg/video.html

    • Aurelius R
      Aurelius R 3 months ago

      Also, in a weird twist, that was the first game played after Sean Taylor's shooting death in the home invasion.

  • HeadCanon
    HeadCanon 3 months ago +1

    12 players on the field for the Seahawks? So the fans are now the 13th Man

  • Gilgamesh Indaflesh
    Gilgamesh Indaflesh 3 months ago

    ...can I call a time out after I challenge a play?

  • Justin Cobb
    Justin Cobb 3 months ago

    I'll tell my Dad you said hello. He'll probably tell me to say hello back. So... Gary says hello.

  • Nathan Jessee
    Nathan Jessee 3 months ago

    As a high school sports official (football and basketball), I take offense to the idea that I have a massive ego. Granted, I have called games with guys who had massive ego's in general and just happen to also officiate high school sports.

  • ByloBand
    ByloBand 3 months ago +1

    #SneakyPete (2:24) #GoHawks

  • nickrichard5052
    nickrichard5052 3 months ago +4

    Hey you guys should cover "Bird rights/the Bird rule" in the NBA

  • 6th Wilbury
    6th Wilbury 3 months ago

    "Icing the kicker... it's part of the game." Yeah, even though it has been shown time and time again that it doesn't work. i.e. coaches are just as stubborn and egotistical as officials.

  • kakarroto007
    kakarroto007 3 months ago

    Gary never had a TVclip account.

  • SendixBunny
    SendixBunny 3 months ago +1

    17-16 was the final score of that Bills Redskins game, not 18-17.

  • Micah Bisharah
    Micah Bisharah 3 months ago

    The No Fun League

  • slycordinator
    slycordinator 3 months ago

    Statistically, icing the kicker doesn't work.

  • LastTourniquet
    LastTourniquet 3 months ago +2

    This rule just leaves room for exploitation.
    (using your example) if a kicker gets iced once and then the call comes in for another time out and the ref ignores it all is good, but if the ref KNOWS its against the rules and just wants to punish you they can "forget" about the rule and then 5 seconds later just say.. 'oh never mind 15 yard penalty'. Am I missing something here? I don't watch sports (find this channel just interesting for videos like this) but is it not common practice to get refs that just *know* the rules so stuff like this doesn't happen?

  • Dobbys Vlogs
    Dobbys Vlogs 3 months ago

    That happens all the time with icing the kicker though?? How do they get away with it?

  • Christo du Plessis
    Christo du Plessis 3 months ago +1

    That Skins Bills game was the first weekend of me living in the US. I was in the Fort Myers area where Sean Taylor was murdered a few days before (my first day there). I felt so bad for the Skins losing on a 15 yard penalty.

    • Christo du Plessis
      Christo du Plessis 3 months ago

      @Javien Taylor I was only there for a year, was great though, the US is a great country, been back twice for vacations.

    • Javien Taylor
      Javien Taylor 3 months ago

      Wow, well hows the u.s been treating you lately

  • SmellsLikeBrass
    SmellsLikeBrass 3 months ago +3

    I'm just looking for a Gary but it seems like there is no Gary. :-(

  • MrSmapdi
    MrSmapdi 3 months ago

    The NFL in no way has too many rules.

  • Vincent Killion
    Vincent Killion 3 months ago +172

    I've never understood why the double timeout rule even existed. Yeah if, in the worst case scenario, all 6 timeouts (both teams) happened at once, it would take a long time, but teams don't have more after that. It's not like the game overall would take longer. It would just be a mini-halftime during the half, instead of several micro-halftimes.

    • brucemercer
      brucemercer Month ago

      @Rowgue51 You must either be OLD or a REF to even know it exists.

    • Rowgue51
      Rowgue51 Month ago

      The delay of game rule in basketball isn't a secret. You used to see it all the time. They just stopped calling it like they did with palming,traveling and just about everything else in basketball.

    • brucemercer
      brucemercer Month ago

      @Rowgue51 The OP was saying 3 TO's called by 1 team and 3 called by the other team. So without the rule it could be possible to see 6 To's in a row. I don't think fanns would tune out though. Because any situation critical enough to NEED 6 To's in a row would have to be leading into a GAME DECIDING play, right? A VERY important play.
      What you also have to remember is that Football has a DELAY OF GAME penalty... (so does basketball but it rarely comes up and when it does most Fans, Announcers, Players and Coaches do not understand what is going on... because really almost NOBODY actually understands the rules of basketball except the Best Referees. For example did you even know Basketball has rules on Delay of Game... probably not)... ANYWAYS...
      To have so many TO's called in a row in Football would more or less violate the DELAY OF GAME rules... which BTW is a 5 Yard Penalty. So it seems to me the NFL just realized they had NOT been enforcing a rule they already had all along.

    • 0dryy
      0dryy 2 months ago

      Yeet Good point, i wonder how many other rules are for this reason or have a reason like this in them?

    • Rowgue51
      Rowgue51 2 months ago

      While this is a situation that would rarely ever come up because of the fact that teams only have three timeouts per half it does have both practical and broadcasting purposes.

  • JT ΩΩ
    JT ΩΩ 3 months ago

    What if the ref decides to give the 2nd timeout on purpose?

    • Ed Tschoepe
      Ed Tschoepe 3 months ago

      I was wondering that too. They could have it in for the team asking for the second timeout and decide to give it to them, knowing they'll be penalized later. Ha! We need another rule and more review!

  • Elite Soulfly
    Elite Soulfly 3 months ago

    I don’t get this. When a team ices a kicker don’t they use two timeouts?

    • Qui P
      Qui P 3 months ago

      Elite Soulfly one team might use a timeout to stop the clock, but the team actually icing the kicker only uses 1

  • Raymond Hmuifoo
    Raymond Hmuifoo 3 months ago +65

    "And so, in a very un-Bills-like moment, they end up making this new, shorter attempt, and they win 18 to 17 in the last few seconds of the game." Got a good laugh outta me.

    • Redsmurf12
      Redsmurf12 20 days ago

      As a bills fan I take offense to this if the bills did one think in the last 20 years it was make feild goals damn it !!!!

    • Maxcrss
      Maxcrss 2 months ago +2

      One of the few times it wasn’t a laugh ofpain thanks to the Bills.

  • Austin Davis
    Austin Davis 4 months ago

    A weird (and very dumb) rule that needs to be changed is that fumbling out of the endzone gives the other team a touchback. This only makes sense when punting the ball. If the offense fumbles, and it rolls out of bounds anywhere else on the field, even at the 1yd line, they get the ball at that spot. But if you’re about to score, you fumble the ball and it rolls into the endzone and out of bounds, it’s a turnover and the other team gets it at the 20... 🤨

    • MAV VuCrew
      MAV VuCrew 3 months ago

      What else would they do? Snap it in the end zone?

  • kadrope
    kadrope 4 months ago +22

    That Bills--Redskins game was right after Sean Taylor died smh was a totally heartbreaking loss

    • 01dirtydirk
      01dirtydirk 23 days ago

      I actually kind of found it funny..

  • Thomas Urech
    Thomas Urech 4 months ago

    Delays from reviewing plays don't make the game too long, ads make the game too long. Like the Oscars. They shorten the time for speeches because the ceremony takes too long, but interrupt the show with a long commercial break every 5 minutes! The general public appreciates people who work on makeup and costumes once a year, but the little guys get nixed because people were mad about A-listers getting political. Football games are the same way. All those commercial breaks and "media timeouts" drag the game out to a crawl far more than one or two extra challenges or reviews. Until the NFL gets better refs (and/or clearer rules), those reviews should happen. If you hate that games are 4 hours long, remember that 60% is commercials.

  • Paul Dokken
    Paul Dokken 4 months ago

    Weird rule idea: The time Tiger Woods had a bunch of fans move a giant rock from in front of his ball so he could have a clear shot.

  • Ronnie Orris
    Ronnie Orris 4 months ago

    Hi Gary

  • Tet UnOffensive
    Tet UnOffensive 4 months ago +5

    So it’s the refs choice to either wave it off or grant the time out and then slap on the penalty.

  • Paulo Javier
    Paulo Javier 4 months ago

    It’s just a prank, bro!!!
    Look, camera!

  • I leave mean comments
    I leave mean comments 4 months ago

    Wow... you guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for video ideas, eh?

  • Magic Catfish
    Magic Catfish 4 months ago +1

    The Bills vs Redskins game was the week following Sean Taylor's death.

  • Fox D
    Fox D 4 months ago +73

    SBNation's art team outdid themselves on this one. Outstanding.

  • jesusthroughmary
    jesusthroughmary 4 months ago +9

    Should just be called delay of game. Done.

  • DrZaius3141
    DrZaius3141 4 months ago

    That's a perfectly reasonable rule. Being a ref (at least most positions of ref) requires laser focus, especially in the seconds before the snap. And with all those late time outs coming in, there is a serious issue about reacting to them quickly (otherwise you get a snap with one team playing and the other team not playing, which is a huge injury risk). So take your pick: do you want coaches and player having the chance to call a time out half a second before the play clock runs out and them reacting fast enough or do you want them to ponder whether a time out is legitimate first? It happens. So the people to blame are the ones that try to do something they aren't allowed to. Ignorance doesn't protect from punishment.

  • Randy Randalman
    Randy Randalman 4 months ago +2

    Refs screw up and your team gets a penalty for their incompetence. How is that fair?

  • Eric Villar
    Eric Villar 4 months ago +1

    If a Gary watched this video, reply under this comment.

  • Manny
    Manny 4 months ago

    PLEASE do a rewind on the 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix

  • OG Chuckster
    OG Chuckster 4 months ago

    YES it's nice to see the Bills win when there's a story about them lmao

  • KevinG99
    KevinG99 4 months ago +21

    I’ve known this rule for a long time because Madden doesn’t let you take 2 timeouts in a row

  • cflasch75
    cflasch75 4 months ago +1

    It was called on MN in the 09 NFC championship game

  • Brian Pacos
    Brian Pacos 4 months ago

    The Bills won 17-16 btw

  • Brandon McGowan
    Brandon McGowan 4 months ago

    finally something besides the stupid beef history episodes

  • Axis&Allies
    Axis&Allies 4 months ago

    You guys need to do a episode of the Buffalo Bills ending the 17 yr playoff drought. So much had to happen on that New Years eve night. It would be such a great episode

    • Andrew M
      Andrew M 4 months ago

      I’m certain that has already been done! NFL TURNING POINT covered it. And there was an entire 30-minute documentary about it in the Buffalo area just days after the Bills Wild Card Game in Jacksonville. (It’s called PLAYOFF CALIBER. And you can find it on TVclip). So unless these guys can find actual evidence of a conspiracy theory that no one has talked about, they would have infringed on the copyright © of TWO different television programs.

  • shassan95
    shassan95 4 months ago

    That was so cringe

  • chuck430
    chuck430 4 months ago

    penalized for the ref's mistakes?

  • stu desmond
    stu desmond 4 months ago +1

    These guys are horrible to listen to

  • Coach Cason
    Coach Cason 4 months ago

    It would have had to be Pete Carroll or Bill Billicheck. Those are the only two coaches that could have pulled that off.

  • Matt Brigidi
    Matt Brigidi 4 months ago

    hey it’s me. gary. hello ryan

  • EricPlayz
    EricPlayz 4 months ago


  • Yeezer Leezer
    Yeezer Leezer 4 months ago

    Bruh literally the opening to this is stupid, like they are people too, of course they don’t want to be made fun of? Who does? Tf. You act like since they are “refs” they are like not human and something different. Like of course they don’t want to be made into fools.

  • RJ Carmenates
    RJ Carmenates 4 months ago +2

    Rewinder: Jayson Werths 13 pitch walk-off homerun in the NLDS

  • nickability
    nickability 4 months ago

    So if the refs didn't catch the second timeout being called, how are any of the refs aware enough to call the 5 yard/15 yard penalty if they don't know there is a penalty in the first place? Does one ref have to just remember, suddenly, last second that they can't call 2 consecutive timeouts?

  • Karson Brady
    Karson Brady 4 months ago +1

    Please do a rewinder on Brett Hull’s goal in game 6 of the 1999 Stanley cup finals. Aka his foot was in the crease

  • Hammer Hartz
    Hammer Hartz 4 months ago

    Sorry, I’m a prankster.😐

    Please don’t ban meeeee!