Why James Charles' Historic Downfall Is SO Different. Tati Westbrook, Jeffree Star, & More...

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  • Philip DeFranco
    Philip DeFranco  4 months ago +3551

    Remember now we are posting videos 7-days a week here, so I hope you are excited for more throat punching than ever before!
    Anyway here are the timecodes:
    Tati Exposes James Charles (0:10), TIA (14:31), Alyssa Milano’s Strike (16:09), San Francisco Journalist Raided Over Source (19:00)

    • GiGi W.
      GiGi W. 4 months ago

      Welp. Good for thing Morphe has Jeffree.

    • Jennifer Dunne
      Jennifer Dunne 4 months ago +1

      I just wanted to let you know that you accidentally say Jeffree Star's brother instead of James Charles' brother @12:22

    • Sean Masami Shimamoto
      Sean Masami Shimamoto 4 months ago

      Philip DeFranco As a gay man, it really upsets me how these people are calling James a sexual predator ‘cause none of what he did was sexual predation. What also bothers me is that I’m half way through your video and you haven’t mentioned anything about Tati BLATANTLY lying about the waiter...Tati said that James sought out that waiter and was being a predator and that it was disgusting...but the waiter himself said that HE sought out James, and the waiter even said that James ASKED him if he could kiss him! That’s not a sexual predator. Then there’s Jeffree Starr...why didn’t you bring up all of his past tweets about his predation of straight guys? Especially the one when Justin Bieber was underage and Jeffree tweeted that he wanted to know how hung Bieber is?!? And for the record, I used to be a legal assistant and people making these videos about James’ alleged behaviour...that’s just heresay. If his actions were sexual harassment, FILE A POLICE REPORT against him ‘cause if James did something illegal, he should be arrested. But odds are, what he did wasn’t sexual harassment and they know that it won’t stand up in court, and therefore aren’t calling the police. I’m with that Pewdipie guy, there’s something wrong with a 37-year old business woman making that childish video...she sounded like a scorned high school girl whose best friend didn’t vote for her for prom queen.

    • Eva Wambani
      Eva Wambani 4 months ago

      As of today, this comment has the same amount of likes as the dislikes for the video.

    • Maja V
      Maja V 4 months ago

      Can you maybe do a video on the Tarte scandal?
      They named a pair of lashes in their latest collaboration “Kosovo” which symbolizes confrontation between two countries,terror and pain of the people of Kosovo.😨😨
      Really unprofessional,I’m totally disappointed. Check the comments on their latest ig posts for the collab.

  • Bunnymomjulie
    Bunnymomjulie 20 hours ago

    Why, yes, Alyssa Milano, witholding casual, free-wheeling sex is a very appropriate way to take control of your body and ward off unwanted pregnancy and the need for abortion!
    It's also the way to ward off unwanted advances and the need for a restraining order, every water within 150 feet of James Charles!

  • Brian Lewis
    Brian Lewis 29 days ago

    " welcome to show business."
    Lady you're a youtuber, not that that's a bad thing. But you ain't in the show business honey!!

  • Tails Clock
    Tails Clock 2 months ago

    "We'll stop having sex with men"
    In a monogomous country like America, this is only going to hurt the husband, who being a husband, is going to support you. This is a call to attack allies, how utterly daft.

  • jobriq5
    jobriq5 2 months ago

    I thought James Charles and Jeffree Star were the same person for the first half of the video...

  • JustPassingThrough
    JustPassingThrough 2 months ago

    Honestly, when I initially heard of the sex strike, I was all for it. But, as per usual, Phil managed to open up my perspective enough to understand the limited effectiveness of such a maneuver, and the potential collateral damage that might occur. I personally think Milano's motivations were well meaning, but not well thought out. Additionally, her reaction to being called out was certainly poor, but I can understand where she's coming from. Having said that, I fantasize on a daily basis about having five uninterrupted minutes in a room alone with the people responsible for these recent bans on abortions. I'd come out a criminal, but a happy one nonetheless...

  • JustPassingThrough
    JustPassingThrough 2 months ago

    I'm not currently super savvy on all the details regarding the James Charles situation. However, from what I've gleaned thus far, to me it does seem that Tati GROSSLY overreacted to the vitamin situation. It seems that her initial attack was intended NOT to have a discussion with James, but rather to deface his reputation. What followed after however, primarily regarding his alleged interactions with other non homosexual men, does seem damning, thereby validating the negative reception he has garnered. I however, am with Pewds on this one, in that I very much doubt Tati's motivations. If anyone has any additional perspectives or facts they think would help expand and solidify my position on this matter, I'd greatly appreciate it.

  • Pia Hellgren
    Pia Hellgren 3 months ago

    Febuuuary.

  • Pia Hellgren
    Pia Hellgren 3 months ago

    Tati is the nasty person in all this, people. Jeeez.

  • Fukui Hisoka
    Fukui Hisoka 3 months ago

    Honestly, I think that if the beauty community just chilled and continued to make makeup videos, it wouldn’t have blown up like this and JC would’ve had more of a chance to talk it out with Tati.
    With that said, though, the tea videos are endlessly amusing in how petty some of the drama can be.

  • my penis is small, but
    my penis is small, but 3 months ago

    Tati: *tries to ruin James' career*
    James: *UNO REVERSE CARD*

  • Cirrus5005
    Cirrus5005 3 months ago

    I love you Phil and I only wanna see everything you do succeed... *ominous pause* BUT I feel like the beauty community is playing you. The channel shines such an unnecessary and undeserved spotlight on appalling, deceitful and overdramatic behaviour that it starts to legitimise it. I just feel with characters like these, we're edging closer and closer to realising a people of The Hunger Games' fictional District 1: The Capitol. A people so disconnected from reality because the rest of us stood back and let them legitimise themselves. Don't you feel a little responsible in contributing to that? I've watched you since I got a TVclip account in 2007 and I'm proud of who you've become and to say you've had an impact on my life would be an understatement, but sometimes I feel there *are* times to throw in your opinion and stress to a younger audience that this way of dealing with serious and professional circumstances is ill-advised.

  • Justin Tada
    Justin Tada 3 months ago

    They are both Catty. I don’t think anyone is innocent here. How come no one is making a big deal out of how he is promoting something and saying that it is helping him and he is using it when he clearly didn’t use it. And for her she is calling all this out now only because he promote someone else product. If he think he is such a predator and is rude why enable it? Both fake both lie;

  • Sarah James
    Sarah James 3 months ago

    James Charles is a predator period. Harassing and manipulating an unwanted party is wrong.

  • omgeez21
    omgeez21 3 months ago

    I'm not going to like this because I want you to punch me in the throat

  • daschc01
    daschc01 3 months ago

    Robert Mueller is looking for work. Let him get to the bottom of this.

  • Smokin Benji
    Smokin Benji 3 months ago

    Can I just remind everyone that there is a genocide happening in the Yemen right now

  • muggedinmadrid
    muggedinmadrid 3 months ago

    all of this is about money. none of these people are victims or moral heroes. all the parties involved are morally bankrupt. stop pushing make up on children and adolescents. it's unethical and they do not need it. all are manipulative and pernicious. the only thing they feel bad about is losing revenues and not having the deviousness to be as ruthless as the other person. this is a vile class of role models to be presenting to impressionable children, or anyone for the matter, on a daily basis. relearn what ethics, priorities and humanity is. inexorable characters caught in the web of their of their own disgraceful values.

  • Y Mit
    Y Mit 3 months ago

    Both of them are interested in his money and fame.

  • psychicoutlaw Chanel
    psychicoutlaw Chanel 3 months ago

    Late to yrs on this, came bc I heard you support Tati, which now that I have watched like a million videos on that drama, I do as well. JC leaks decption like crazy in his videos, I think he would score fairly high on the soicopathy scale. As to Meliss A and the sex strike, it has worked in the past to stop wars. Is there a war on women in the US? Lol, hardly think so if you look at honor killings in fundamental Muslim countries. But there is a war against the unborn in the US now, with NY state saying that if a mother who Gives Birth suddenly says at that moment Oh I dont want the baby and has not arranged for an adoption, then hey the state can now just kill the baby! I mean there is no argument about whether this is a human being scientifcally on that one, the state of NY and I think also VA can kill yr baby after it is born and say that is an abortion, not murder. Yet in hospitals in both these states premature babies are being placed in incubators and given every possible medical treatment to keep them alive bc the parents want them. Let that sink in. The war on journalism is real, just look at the Assange case. Free him, and Carmody. Thx Philip!

  • Laidy
    Laidy 3 months ago +1

    they're a beauty community.

    *of course they take everything at face value*

  • Voice of Insight
    Voice of Insight 3 months ago

    When beauty community . Is low key term for gay community. Sprinkled with snowflakes

  • Isabelle Rogers
    Isabelle Rogers 3 months ago

    Sex strike is ridiculous.

  • Tahsin Ahmed
    Tahsin Ahmed 3 months ago

    If James Charles is 19 then I am fucking 16. Dude looks like 26 or 27 and that's just being generous.

  • Jonny5Fails
    Jonny5Fails 3 months ago

    I 100% believe that people are born gay, but it really seems like gay people don't believe people are born straight. If you can't be "fixed" and become straight, then why are you trying to "fix" straight people in the same ways to become gay?

  • Dab Rebel
    Dab Rebel 3 months ago +1

    And now, I bet ya’ll feel dumb for your trending hate comment against James.

  • renzy
    renzy 3 months ago

    So many bandwagoners and sheep getting it all so wrong

  • dip dip potato chip
    dip dip potato chip 3 months ago

    Those people are the worst type of people to follow. Just listening to them talk makes me want to rip out my out eyeballs and fill my eye sockets with boiling hot salt water.

  • hasaheadachenow Shirley you jest!

    I'm shocked by face book drama, but iguessi shouldn't be , most of the players involved are kids. I have to remind myself of their ages and imaturity.

  • Pears 1704
    Pears 1704 3 months ago

    First video of yours I've seen (came for a Tati James explanation). Great context, refreshing perspective, including on the sex strike (which i also think seems a bit pointless but did its job of stirring conversation. I wonder if Georgia will attract any praise for what I see as a strange and thoughtful compromise between pro life- protect the baby- and pro choice- if a woman discovers she is pregnant and doesn't want to be, she has a couple of weeks there to do so.) Good job.

  • Antriksh Jordan Wesley
    Antriksh Jordan Wesley 3 months ago

    sorry , gono dislike because u dedicated more than half the video to a non IMPORTANT World impacting topic.

  • Laura Diaz -Autin
    Laura Diaz -Autin 3 months ago

    Talk about getting all my news needs met in just 1 video

  • brendon stephen
    brendon stephen 3 months ago

    Guess you could say the beauty community is an Ugly community

  • Adalynn Vargas
    Adalynn Vargas 3 months ago

    Idk...I've been to ulta...and James Charles' palette is still sold out 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • Rose Girl
    Rose Girl 4 months ago

    Sex Strike? BAD IDEA! What's that gonna change? Especially when you have those who agree with the bill also advocating it? Industry Strike? GOOD IDEA? Every state in the union runs on money. Whether it be from local businesses, tourism, gambling, and yes... movie and television shows filmed in the area. Hit 'em in the pockets, and maybe that will send a message and get the point across. They get desperate enough, they'll have to concede defeat OR try to compromise.

  • Jeff Brinker
    Jeff Brinker 4 months ago

    He sounds like a sexual predator. He’s not exempt from being identified that way just because he’s gay and only 19. He’s a legal adult and straight or gay, male or female, a predator is still a predator.

  • Dark Eco
    Dark Eco 4 months ago +1

    JC's historic downfall is SO different: because it shows the liberals are hypocrites.

  • Koya Moon
    Koya Moon 4 months ago

    The beauty industry has the ugliest f#$%ing face.

  • KakeemDude4
    KakeemDude4 4 months ago

    Phil is literally inciting The Shane lol

  • Kuch _
    Kuch _ 4 months ago

    It's almost like anyone who is really into "beauty," only care about themselves and are obsessed with looks. None of this is really surprising.

  • Lewis Davidson
    Lewis Davidson 4 months ago +1

    And today is when everybody realises Pewdiepie is smarter than you, more experienced than you in terms of TVclip Drama.

  • EcnalKcin
    EcnalKcin 4 months ago

    People who subscribe to flaky fashion channels are obviously highly concerned about how others perceive them, so ofc they are going to abandon one person and jump to the next when public opinion shifts away from the original person.

  • War Is Wrong
    War Is Wrong 4 months ago

    The conservative community just find out about this so be prepared for "incoming"...

  • X l X
    X l X 4 months ago

    If you get persuaded by someone about your gender, then maybe just maybe you’re not really straight. Jesus, the fuck’s wrong with the world now.

  • Casmira Star
    Casmira Star 4 months ago

    Pretty much, everyone is wrong in the situation.

  • Fat and Happy Ranch
    Fat and Happy Ranch 4 months ago

    You need to.... Speak at like, half speed... You're gonna lose a lot of audience speaking too fast !!!!! I can follow, but I'd prefer not to haha. And I've watched you since sourcefed.

  • Masha Mitchell
    Masha Mitchell 4 months ago

    A week later this video is irrelevant.

  • Danniels95
    Danniels95 4 months ago

    Sucks that nobody is talking about how a journalist in the US got raided by the police. Are we living in China now?!

  • ArchangelV11
    ArchangelV11 4 months ago +1

    Sigh, don't ask for a like at the start of the video. DM

  • MADDOH
    MADDOH 4 months ago

    oh look at that, a homosexual predator... what are the odds?

  • Gwen Cobain
    Gwen Cobain 4 months ago

    I don't get the vitamine part...

  • Kaveh Maguire
    Kaveh Maguire 4 months ago +1

    I don't know much about this stuff because I don't care about the beauty industry and only vaguely know who these people are through social media. But I watched James Charles latest video out of curiosity and I pretty much have this Tati person figured out. Every older gay guy knew someone like her. She surrounds herself with gay men. She calls them "her gays". But the reality is she is pretty homophobic. If you try to discuss anything personal about relationships or sex with her she makes a face and is all "Gay guys are gross". The fact that she tried to make some flirting or joking into some sort of "Predatory" "Metoo" moment is disgusting.

  • Madeline Della Mora
    Madeline Della Mora 4 months ago

    truly the perfect summary for us confused folk wondering how these content creators went from liquid lipstick tutorials to sharing intense details about their sexual history in 5 seconds. my mind is at ease. also I need a vacation from youtube lol.

  • Allison Wonderland
    Allison Wonderland 4 months ago +1

    Can we talk about why most of the population believes what they're told, can't think critically , or research facts (shoutout to Jonestown )?

  • Brynn Mosello
    Brynn Mosello 4 months ago +1

    The ones that defended Tati were seeing that she was gaining followers and piggy backing on her to drag him. THEY all clearly wanted fame and money. James was the ONLY one who cared about honesty and the truth.

  • Nightmare2018
    Nightmare2018 4 months ago

    I feel the strike is counter productive. It's only really effective at making your significant other agitated. It would be effective if there were swaths of men married to women that believed what they are striking against but most everyone striking is ineffective. If politicians wives, it more powerful individuals started doing this it really would change things. As it stands it's not very effective

  • Melanie Machete
    Melanie Machete 4 months ago

    Didn't like, didn't get punched.

  • Hammer Thorson
    Hammer Thorson 4 months ago

    anyone invested in the vitamins story needs to seriously reevaluate their life(s)

  • BlaqueCzar
    BlaqueCzar 4 months ago

    For the first time I agree with Pewdie pie

  • Ash Ketchum'
    Ash Ketchum' 4 months ago +6

    While I've always disliked James Charles and his brand stuff was shit (and he deserves the sub drop), I think it's worrying how little attention people are paying to every side of things on the predatory versus not debate. If both guys he reportedly preyed on said they were bicurious and leaned into the flirting/relationships, that's definitely not predatory behavior at all, that's just regular flirting. Maybe they discovered they weren't bi after all after the fact, but that would be like if I slept with a girl and later on she realised she was lesbian and then decided to press rape charges even though at the time she had been fine with it.
    I think James Charles is a slimy motherfucker, but I don't know if I'm quite ready to believe the big mainstream TVclip channels promoting the idea of him being predatory when there have been solid counterarguments against it.
    If it does get confirmed that he was definitely predatory, I'll be fuming, though, that's for sure. No TVclipr should ever get to exercise their fame to try and force others into liking them, regardless of orientation or gender.
    footnote, no I'm not gonna take Pewds or H3 as evidence; I don't find either to be proper sources and I think they're both pretty biased based on their past opinions. I'm operating evidence only here and so far I'm somewhere in the middle.
    James is still a little shithead, though.
    So is everyone else in the beauty community, frankly.