How to Diagnose and Replace a Starter

Share
Embed
  • Published on Jan 13, 2017
  • Learn how to diagnose and replace a starter in your car or truck. In this video I show you the common causes of a car that doesn't turn over, and then I show you how to replace the starter along with many tips and tricks to make the job go easier and better.
    Starter I used: goo.gl/dpUUWI
    Mutltimeter: amzn.to/2ja4Axd
    Battery Load Tester: amzn.to/2ifhMRK
    Battery Charger: amzn.to/2iiD9wN
    Swivel Ratchet: amzn.to/2j9VGzQ
    Universal Joint Adapter: amzn.to/2iuiNnO
    Thread Locker: amzn.to/2jxRqXv
    Silicone Paste: amzn.to/2ja5Q3A
    Thank you AutoZone for the support and letting me film in the store. Here is more info about how to check your starting system: goo.gl/qfSiVF. They also will load test your battery for free. #HoodsUpAmerica
    → Become a ChrisFix Subscriber: tvclip.biz/user/paintballoo7
    → Instagram: instagram.com/chrisfixit
    → Facebook: facebook.com/chrisfix8
    → Website: www.ChrisFixed.com
    → My Channel Home Page: tvclip.biz/user/ChrisFix
    **If the video was helpful, remember to give it a "thumbs up" and consider subscribing. New videos every Week**
    Disclaimer:
    Due to factors beyond the control of ChrisFix, I cannot guarantee against improper use or unauthorized modifications of this information. ChrisFix assumes no liability for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. Use this information at your own risk. ChrisFix recommends safe practices when working on vehicles and or with tools seen or implied in this video. Due to factors beyond the control of ChrisFix, no information contained in this video shall create any expressed or implied warranty or guarantee of any particular result. Any injury, damage, or loss that may result from improper use of these tools, equipment, or from the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of the user and not ChrisFix. This video was supported by AutoZone and all opinions are mine. I commonly go to AutoZone for parts and products so this was a great fit!
  • Autos & VehiclesAutos & Vehicles

Comments • 5 497

  • ChrisFix
    ChrisFix  2 years ago +536

    Comment your "starter stories" here. I know some Audi's need the engine lifted to get to the starter and the Cadillac NorthStar engine has the starter under the intake manifold! What a bad design!
    Follow me: → Instagram: instagram.com/chrisfixit
    Stuff I used in the video:
    Starter I used: goo.gl/dpUUWI
    Mutltimeter: amzn.to/2ja4Axd
    Battery Load Tester: amzn.to/2ifhMRK
    Battery Charger: amzn.to/2iiD9wN
    Swivel Ratchet: amzn.to/2j9VGzQ
    Universal Joint Adapter: amzn.to/2jxRqXv
    Thread Locker: amzn.to/2jxRqXv
    Silicone Paste: amzn.to/2ja5Q3A

    • Bookoo c
      Bookoo c Day ago

      toyota 2005+ 4.7 V8. it's buried under the intake manifold, which has to removed to replace. A fricking nightmare, and you can't even test it before replacing, since you can't see it, let alone get a meter on the terminals.

    • Griselda Davalos
      Griselda Davalos 2 days ago

      Jesus quiere un dia arreglar su auto🚗

    • The Killer Vehicles & Gaming
      The Killer Vehicles & Gaming 14 days ago

      Does a 2006 Audi A6 Wagon have that like that?

    • MXL94305CP
      MXL94305CP 16 days ago +1

      @JamOwnzU Oh, wow. That was certainly a tricky situation. Glad you ultimately got it working!

    • JamOwnzU
      JamOwnzU 16 days ago +1

      My first starter removal, I was removing the nut holding the wire for the solenoid feed which was being a bit stubborn... I proceeded to apply more torque and the solenoid casing cracked apart (Polymer and epoxy set housing). Boss was a cowboy and not a very nice gentleman so ordered me to get it working again because he wasn't paying for it! I pieced it together like a jigsaw with araldite, terminal studs and all and after setting, refit and it actually worked. It had no right to work, but it did.

  • K Dawg
    K Dawg 55 minutes ago

    now fix that gas hand lol

  • edward cnnell
    edward cnnell Hour ago

    I once had a RWD ford with an inline 6 engine. The starter became a problem and sometimes not restart after being turned off. Sometimes took several attempts to get it to turn the engine cold.
    In frustration I crawled under it again and took another look. Much to my surprise on end of the starter case showed a crack.
    I could see that as the starter case heated up or cooled the case warped and put pressure on the starter shaft and did not allow it to turn freely. Replaced starter and that was that.

  • tinahamilton100
    tinahamilton100 6 hours ago

    Thank you. This video was very informative. I did it myself with your help :)

  • Trey J
    Trey J 7 hours ago

    Thank you so much Chrisfix! My starter went bad out of nowhere at Walmart @11 PM. I had three guy help me bang on it to get it started, but it didn't work. So I got my car towed home. I ordered a starter and went to work. It was hard because my Taurus has such a bad design! But I got a helping hand from a relative and we figured it out! Now my car starts up perfectly. Thanks again, not all heroes wear capes! 😄 Keep doing your thing man. You're helping a lot of people out.

  • G Q
    G Q 9 hours ago

    Shit is funny how I already kno all this stuff but the video is so dam good that I'm just stuck watching.automotive classes should use this vid as a tutorial or something 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • Jared Chamney
    Jared Chamney 19 hours ago

    How do you know if you flooded the engine and it's not just the starter that's wet?

  • Idaho
    Idaho Day ago

    In my Country we used to get much snow during winter, but now we rarely get snow and this video definitely made me miss it.

  • Rhec Boyz
    Rhec Boyz Day ago +1

    I’ve got a 1999 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L and when I go to crack it the starter spins but won’t engage

  • David Smalldridge
    David Smalldridge 2 days ago +1

    The starter in my dream car needs to be replaced! How to do this? (Click) Here we go.(Clip activates) Hey guys ChrisFix here!

  • Atoka220
    Atoka220 2 days ago

    Ey Chris! What's up with trying to start kills the battery?

    I tried to start a car that's been standing still for like half a year, charged the battery, there were lights, dashboard lights, ignition, but as soon as I turned the key to start it, complete blackout.
    Swapped the battery with my car's, same lights, dashlights, clock, ignition n all. Turned the key, instant blackout. I tried the old one in my car, it's dead but my battery survived and could start my car but not the other one. I can't see any signs of shortage like exposed wires touching the chassis or any other wires or anything like that. Coul this be the sign of a faulty starter as well?

  • Brian Barcus
    Brian Barcus 2 days ago

    Worked like a charm! I didn't have it all the way up in Park. You saved me dude. My key was stuck, wouldn't start, no click, wouldn't turn over - 1 minute fix - thank you Chris!

  • Lina Bline
    Lina Bline 3 days ago

    Chris, Your video's are the best. Your explanation of tool usage while performing the job is so useful. Your concise and never misses a point. Best teacher ever! Thank you so much for being there when we need help.

  • chris appelman
    chris appelman 3 days ago

    Hi Chris i liked your video. I got a 99 mustang gt and your stang has the same engine and i recently changed my starter and it took me 2 hrs to get the top starter bolt off what a pain

  • Luke Mettam Gaming
    Luke Mettam Gaming 3 days ago

    Is pressing the clutch in manual cars when starting just a US thing, I’ve never seen a car in the UK where you have to depress the clutch before turning the engine on.

  • Tom Barnes
    Tom Barnes 3 days ago

    I've seen people arc bad starters to get their vehicles to start.

  • DragosDrg Gaming Hd
    DragosDrg Gaming Hd 3 days ago +1

    0:40 OH HELLO MR neighbor WHO GO TO A SHOP

  • Damian Reyes Avila
    Damian Reyes Avila 3 days ago +2

    Amazing Ride video with family All Time.😐

  • G H
    G H 4 days ago

    How do you know the torque?

  • Sam Plautz
    Sam Plautz 4 days ago

    How can I have my local store test my battery if it's dead and I can't start the car? Lol

  • rwprime1
    rwprime1 5 days ago

    Excellent - you know why hitting with a hammer worked? Because back in the day at least, inside the solenoid, there's like a big fender washer and when you engage the solenoid, it fires out and two contacts are made across this big washer. Well, over time, this gets pitted in one spot because it never spins and of course the manufacturers know this. Back in the day, my father-in-law and I would just take the solenoid apart (on our vehicles) and flip the washer and get a whole new life-cycle out of the starter, but I was 21 back then (and dirt poor).

  • Masa de la Casa
    Masa de la Casa 5 days ago +2

    I got my laughing springs worn out, how can I replace the new ones?

  • tariq altabrawi
    tariq altabrawi 7 days ago

    Good job

  • all 4 wheels
    all 4 wheels 7 days ago

    Mine was in the worst spot at the back of the motor up the top I got one bolt off and then the other bolt stripped and I ended up spending a lot more money than I needed to

  • Ed Findlay
    Ed Findlay 7 days ago +1

    Dude you're the best mechanic on youtube.

  • Adrian Jedidiah
    Adrian Jedidiah 8 days ago

    Very informative vidio.but some of vidio i wached about trobulshoting starter.they say dont hit the starter with ball hammer if cant start the car. because some starter have a permanent magnet that maybe broke

  • James Heatherly
    James Heatherly 8 days ago

    thank God for you, there are never explanations this well anywhere on youtube without a crap ton of needless talking, bad observing and plain horrible film quality yet here you are showing the common folk how its done! Thanks Chris!

  • Bts Lover
    Bts Lover 8 days ago

    Awesome tutorial

  • Michael Lidster
    Michael Lidster 9 days ago

    You can just say the bolts are tightened.

  • Michael Lidster
    Michael Lidster 9 days ago

    The no faces shtick. A lot of you guys are going for that style. We could say a lot about it. If we had the inclination

    • Dillon Orr
      Dillon Orr 7 days ago

      Some people enjoy their privacy and dont want millions of people to know what they look like. Respect their privacy and their decisions, particularly when they're as generous of a teacher as this guy.

  • Daniel Brendemuehl
    Daniel Brendemuehl 9 days ago +1

    U o my car doesn't have a check engine light now what do I do?
    But its alright cause my car still starts.
    And I dont have a clutch safety switch it can start in gear.

    • Daniel Brendemuehl
      Daniel Brendemuehl 8 days ago

      @korohone no my car starts but I have no check engine light and my car will start in gear so if its in gear and I try to start it it will start moving

    • korohone
      korohone 8 days ago

      So what's the problem ?
      Do you mean the car has issues starting ?

  • Ian Montgomery
    Ian Montgomery 10 days ago

    Good video. I have never seen a 'check enigne' on any car here in Australia.

  • bruh
    bruh 10 days ago

    My dumb ass put the wires on the solenoid on wrong and I’m pretty sure the computer in the truck blew up cause smoke started pouring out of it not sure why the fuse didn’t go first :/

  • planetrob555
    planetrob555 12 days ago +2

    Maybe mention chucks and putting on the emergency brake...

  • Mr. Castle
    Mr. Castle 12 days ago

    Wow very informative and great visuals, love it can't get a more clear easy video, keep it up.

  • jerry tellez
    jerry tellez 12 days ago

    Thanks Chrisfix!

  • IronmanTeachMaths
    IronmanTeachMaths 13 days ago

    Can it be the spark plug or the lead cables that causes the car not to start. My car has the clicking noise when I try to start it.

  • House of Malice
    House of Malice 13 days ago

    Wow your mustang is a POS

  • Big Bug Lil Bug
    Big Bug Lil Bug 14 days ago

    I had a bolt break off in the bell housing. And the retention nut on the negative lead was in a dead spin so I had to take a hacksaw blade and cut it off. Then I had to pry it off because it rusty as all get out and stuck. All in all, seven hours and twelve busted knuckles later I got it done right before a downpour. Haha! But twenty years of midwest winters takes a toll on everything.

  • James dubs
    James dubs 15 days ago

    Yea boy love your videos..thanks for posting and your channel 🧨🥇

  • Raymond Saw
    Raymond Saw 15 days ago

    Good job,thanks ChristFix.

  • Marcos Santana
    Marcos Santana 15 days ago

    Thank you!

  • DANNY M
    DANNY M 15 days ago

    Why is the silicone paste afraid of gay people?????

  • Jake C Folsom
    Jake C Folsom 15 days ago

    How do you know if your flywheel is bad?

  • alex matinyan
    alex matinyan 15 days ago +5

    Chris: Gets broken leg
    Also Chris: Hey guys ChrisFix here

  • Project Cars
    Project Cars 16 days ago

    Change a ford starter

  • Dave1959
    Dave1959 16 days ago

    I'm having a starting issue with my 2002 Ford F-150,wondering if you have any ideas. When starting cold I turn the key and get a click,I may have to hit the key two,three,four maybe five times sometimes and then it starts up ,when it's warm it will start on the first turn of the key, It does have a new battery in it!

    • Varun Kashib
      Varun Kashib 14 days ago

      I Have the same problem in my 2000 Toyota Camry which has a new battery too.. I believe its the starter on its way out.. That's usually the first sign of trouble. But I could be wrong, You should talk to a mechanic.

  • Hailey Loralyn
    Hailey Loralyn 17 days ago

    @ChrisFix My starter changing story is a doosy Chris, and I knew it was my started because I had watched this video a few months prior, I just came back to watch it again and see if my method was similar to yours, it was!
    I had gotten off worm early (I work at the O'Reilly Auto Parts Distribution Center in Seattle, Washington), and went to a junk yard to get a new wiper blade arm because mine had peeling pant and looked ugly. I got the arm for free (this yard doesn't charge for small parts usually), when I leave to go home, truck wouldn't start. I drive the exact same truck as you (in a way), mine is a 1995 Ford Ranger XLT 3.0 V6 with a SOHC, 2 wheel drive. All power options (minus power seats). I had a bottle jack with me but was on unlevel ground, luckily my truck is high enough off the ground. After some regular checks, fuses, battery, I called my dad who lives only about 3 miles away, pulled my started off without the vehicle jacked up at all, with tools I keep in the truck at all times. Took it down, had it tested to prove it was bad. Got the new one for like 40 bucks (Thanks Employee Discount), had my dad drive me back to my truck, installed it, not without issue, my starter has a wire crimp that you put on, instead of two terminal type connections. When crimping the starters factory connector, it broke, I had to get another one, and wire it again. Truck started right up and has never sounded better.
    Except now I am beginning to think my Torque Converter is going out due to a humming/whining when the vehicle is in gear, but in neutral it goes quiet as a mouse.

  • cade shan
    cade shan 17 days ago

    I used the taping trick that helped a LOT

  • Random G
    Random G 18 days ago

    How to diagnose a bad relay? My car crank but it won't start, after trying for multiple time the car will start for few second and die again

  • BlackTopHemi 17
    BlackTopHemi 17 18 days ago

    That’s a clean steering wheel in the Mazda truck lol 😂

  • Joshua Paul
    Joshua Paul 19 days ago

    I been there

  • Gamer Studio
    Gamer Studio 19 days ago

    i repaired my starter and it worked for me

  • human being
    human being 20 days ago +2

    Do i own a car? will i ever touch a car? did i watch Chrisfix? yup

    • human being
      human being 20 days ago

      i can now build cars when the apocalypse hits

  • Zach House
    Zach House 20 days ago

    Your a god sent Chris, don't know what I would do without you. Keep the videos coming.

  • Phil
    Phil 21 day ago

    Nice werk Chris. I just pulled the starter on my Roadking, cleaned up the copper connections, put new lithium grease. Good as new... a week later, my jeep won't start. Lots of battery power. No blown fuses. Tired starting in neutral to eliminate NSS, no go. Tried hotwiring to bypass ignition. Would not start which tells me it was not the ignition. So now Im down to the starter, which was replaced about 3 years ago. I don't know it the starter came with the solenoid. Maybe they used the old one? Anyway I plan to remove, clean up, see if that works.

  • Jose Fuentes
    Jose Fuentes 23 days ago +1

    This is very professional video. Thanks man even if its not the starter on my truck, I enjoyed this video.

  • Alex Belle
    Alex Belle 23 days ago +2

    My manual transmission 1995 Saturn SC1 makes a grinding noise when I turn the key. Any ideas, anyone? Had to push start to get home from work.

    • That’s Nice
      That’s Nice 22 days ago

      Alex Belle try to add dry Lubricant to all the moving parts

    • Killcard101
      Killcard101 23 days ago +1

      @Alex Belle, you're welcome
      God bless 17

    • Alex Belle
      Alex Belle 23 days ago +1

      @Killcard101 will definitely keep that in mind. Wasn't aware of it.👍

    • Alex Belle
      Alex Belle 23 days ago +3

      Update: the starter bolts worked themselves loose and the gear couldn't reach the flywheel!

    • Killcard101
      Killcard101 23 days ago +2

      Typically, drivers who have a manual transmission are more likely to encounter a grinding noise than drivers with automatic transmissions. On vehicles with a manual transmission, the clutch and gearsynchronizers wear out over time, which may lead to a grinding sound or sensation when shifting between gears.

  • sergio potes
    sergio potes 24 days ago +3

    Or it’s the fuel pump

  • Simon W
    Simon W 25 days ago +1

    I would just like to thank @ChrisFix for this video because without it I would still be stuck in a parking lot. I literally made the call and said "Bring the hammer and a creeper. I got this" and here I am now. Now I just need to fix it.

  • Kahviholisti
    Kahviholisti 26 days ago +1

    Our 2002 skoda octavia with a manual trans starts in neutral without pressing the clutch?

  • gregolonious
    gregolonious 27 days ago

    I've had some old school mechanics say that using coke is a soild way to clear dirty/corroded connections. Do you agree with that?

    • Espc
      Espc 23 days ago

      I believe it

  • Victor Quinga
    Victor Quinga 28 days ago +2

    can you tell us how much cost if I will take to the mechanics any thing you do please.

  • michel Guevara
    michel Guevara 28 days ago

    Chrisfix? this isn't fixing anything, you just bolted a new one in , you fraud.
    you should have taken it apart and cleaned the commutator and checked the carbon brush length and tension, resurfacing where needed, a 15 minute job that you obviously have no idea how to do.

  • Donnis Yeaass
    Donnis Yeaass 29 days ago

    You probably read this a lot but ive literally learned more from your videos in one day then any mechanic has told me within almost 2 years of owning my jeep!! Just wanna say thank you so much love your content!! You make and explain everything so simple and make it look so easy!!!

  • Garrett Gaetzke
    Garrett Gaetzke Month ago

    Your gas is low go fill it

  • Ryan Poulin
    Ryan Poulin Month ago

    @chrisfix i have a question
    The casting that houses the start gear blew apart inside the fly wheel housing. What would you do to extract the pieces or just send it. Like nothing was shielding the starter gear.... scared to try to revive my brothers car due to the housing being non existent atm

  • Paulette Holman
    Paulette Holman Month ago

    It wasn't my starter, but my battery. Your video was soo interesting, I watched it to the end. Ty

  • Emmanuel Rivera
    Emmanuel Rivera Month ago +4

    Hey bro, you don’t have 5 million subs for no reason man. Your videos are the best I’ve seen on TVclip tbh. I legit binge watch your videos like a Netflix show. You should definitely try to be a legit teacher at a auto school. Keep up the good work bro

  • Colby Pacholko
    Colby Pacholko Month ago

    Hey Chris or anyone who knows I need help , my 1984 ford f-150 with the V8 carbe engine and when it does start the starter seems to drag on after I'm not sure why , thanks

  • Admiral Icywolf YT
    Admiral Icywolf YT Month ago +3

    On most tractors the starter is located on the side

  • SnoopyOgre
    SnoopyOgre Month ago

    I’m currently looking at getting my first car and I have a budget of 3000 or less, many cars/trucks I’m interested in need work and I’ll sure be using your videos

    • Junkyard Garage
      Junkyard Garage Month ago

      Good luck man im bouta buy mine and im waching this for tmr to see if it turn

  • Road Runner
    Road Runner Month ago

    Great video, you learn so much when channel hopping

  • Volkan Metli
    Volkan Metli Month ago

    why do your cars keep failing?

  • THA NEXT MVP
    THA NEXT MVP Month ago

    I have a 98 firebird with 47k miles my pops took it away from my half brother since like 2005 that we were able to start once. Then my dad told me that it needed a new fuel pump, alternator & starter, so I installed everything but it won’t start. Any suggestions?

  • Nick H
    Nick H Month ago +1

    I went through 3 autozone starters that all only lasted a few months. Anyone else had the same experience?

  • Mr Coca
    Mr Coca Month ago

    I put a new starter in my 06 Chevy Silverado 1500 4wd 5.3 but its maken a noise like the starter is getting too much power. Also it's a no crank no start what could the noise be plz help me if u might know Chrisfix

  • J. Brown
    J. Brown Month ago

    Great explanations and supporting videos. Best part is you don't talk too much and feel the need to "selfie" on the camera every few seconds. THANKS.

  • Alberto Nigar Wangamati

    my car starts after several trials,could it be a starter fault?

  • nguyennkhiem
    nguyennkhiem Month ago

    Thabks for great video. You saved my day. My mom's car wouldn't start or crank. Fuses were good, battery were good. It turned out that it was not all the park.

  • JourneyTotheTruthandTotalRandomness

    2000 ford ranger 3.0l 4wd. Just did mine today. Video gave me the confidence to do it. Wasn't that bad. Messy, only thing that made it last about an hour longer was the new starter was modified with a crimp bit sleeve. Had to cut and splice the old cable which was worrisome but it worked. Started up like a champ and no more belt screech at start up. Didnt realize a dying starter could make the belt screech. Now I know. Thanks Chris!

  • Machinist64
    Machinist64 Month ago +14

    Chris Fix, since you can fix and replace pretty much any/every thing on a car, why not just do a video called, "How to Build a Car".

  • saicharan raja
    saicharan raja Month ago

    pls make a video for fixing a tachometer

  • Mr Mr Jims
    Mr Mr Jims Month ago +1

    I had a bad battery once but the guy in AAA kept asking me to keep trying to start it. It was cranking we did it for 5mn until the starter went bad and couldn't crank anymore. I had to spent 400 to replace starter because the AAA screwed up my starter instead of charging the battery

  • Kyore
    Kyore Month ago

    ChrisFix is so unmatched it’s not even funny.

  • James Zack
    James Zack Month ago

    I just took mine apart, cleaned all the brass pionts and reinstalled back to my Dodge 1500. Sometimes that's all it takes and you save a hundred bucks

  • Koolavinine X
    Koolavinine X Month ago +3

    It's a damn blessing that I have a '08 Mazda B4000, makes it so easy. Cheers

  • Anugrah Pratama Bahri

    5:22 Fuse Blown 20amp and 30amp. Do not attempt try this Yourself

  • Angela Reyes
    Angela Reyes Month ago +1

    Hello Chris do you know how to fix a check engine light that comes on when it’s raining

  • Brian W
    Brian W Month ago +1

    That hammer trick worked for about a month while I was in college with limited funds. It made the starter last until my next paycheck and was able to replace it... nice 👍🏻

  • Gabriel Shirk
    Gabriel Shirk Month ago +1

    Just want to say that u make the best car repair videos ever. So informative and to the point.

  • Money Man
    Money Man Month ago +3

    You make it look soo easy 😅. Good video

  • Matt L
    Matt L Month ago

    Hey Chris! Don't know if you'll ever see this but I'm doing this job today on my 2000 Ford Ranger. The new starter came with an attached lead. Apparently these trucks have had problems with corrosion in the last 4 inches of the S-terminal. Just cut the end of the original lead and crimp on the new one. Thanks for the video, couldn't do it without you!

  • Tom Ridgway
    Tom Ridgway Month ago

    Uncle has an 07 Tundra with the 4.7 V8. The starter is under the intake manifold. Cost him $1200 for replacement when it went bad! I love Toyota but I’ll never buy one that has that engine with that starter design

  • Nikita Gultsev
    Nikita Gultsev Month ago +1

    My car won‘t start when it stands a while in the sun and hetas up. What could it be?

  • FIQ Aventure
    FIQ Aventure Month ago

    Thanks chris

  • Kennedy Wong
    Kennedy Wong Month ago

    Old starter look good to me and work, and not sure why change it because it cost almost $200 for new one.

    • ChrisFix
      ChrisFix  Month ago

      The old starter was bad which is why I replaced it.

  • Adan
    Adan Month ago

    I fixed my dad's 1982 Ford F-100 I had to change the starter, man it's a pain replacing the starter in that truck.

  • Cohen Dyer
    Cohen Dyer Month ago

    You should buy new car
    Then fix it then start it
    Dive it. Ps. My name is Cohen.😘

  • wholeNwon
    wholeNwon Month ago

    Don't forget to chuck the rear tires before jacking. Unfortunately my car's starter is under the intake manifold. Fingers crossed it will never need replacing. Car is 21 years old now and still great.