Snowpiercer = Willy Wonka Sequel? (Rhino Stew followup)

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  • Published on Nov 6, 2018
  • Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory!
    A follow-up to the Rhino Stew video. SUBSCRIBE!
    New comparison of the two films, with MORE CONNECTIONS between the two!
    BONUS MATERIAL available at: tvclip.biz/video/EmzQt1W_pgk/video.html
    The original Rhino Stew video completely blew my mind when I first saw it, so this one is inspired by their idea. Watch the original here: tvclip.biz/video/jEX52h1TvuA/video.html
    #Wonkapiercer
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  • Xeno Shift
    Xeno Shift Day ago

    So, I have a question, in Charlie, he was CHOSEN to be the heir, and the other kids were there to humble them I suppose. So was the same happening in Snowpiercer?

  • Aidan Hobbing
    Aidan Hobbing 2 days ago +1

    4:30 Hes litterly saying du ba du ba like the oompa loompa

  • ordinary person
    ordinary person 2 days ago

    Dam

  • Don't Ask me
    Don't Ask me 5 days ago +3

    Fuck me that was awesome tho maybe somethings are a bit far fetched but again I don’t see how this wouldn’t be true if it did link up also to all the people who are bitching about the audio or the fact that he added to this 1 get a fucking life and stop bitching like for real the audio wasn’t that bad to be all bitchy about it and 2 listen and read first before posting maybe you will see that he is not stealing or drawing at straws it’s just a theory......A GAME THE.....no no wait wrong channel but you know what I mena have fun on the internet don’t be a twat

  • Black Lamount
    Black Lamount 9 days ago +1

    👀👀👀😃

  • Uptown EasyE
    Uptown EasyE 10 days ago +1

    7 continets

  • yellowbeans01
    yellowbeans01 11 days ago +1

    Your audio sucks, bro

  • TurtleEclipse
    TurtleEclipse 16 days ago +1

    God damn I've been looking for this for 3 months

  • bleach kun
    bleach kun 19 days ago +5

    Oompa Loompa doopity Doo I have another theory for you
    Oompa Loompa doopity dee if you are wise you'll listen to me
    what do you get when you get 2 movies a theory That is great for thee

  • Jessie Fernandez
    Jessie Fernandez 21 day ago +4

    The part where your comparing mike tv to the monochrome room. The room looks like film. Polaroid film.

  • clowntown brown
    clowntown brown 21 day ago +17

    sorry dude, the original video was cool but it feels like youre grasping at straws here :-/

  • Real Atzia
    Real Atzia 22 days ago +7

    Can you not record your goddamn voice from across the house like holy fuck how did you edit this shit and decide yeah this shit is good enough like bitch turn your voice up and take the mf tampon out

    • Adam Olson
      Adam Olson 13 days ago +4

      How about shut the fuck up, he puts his time into these videos, you don't. If you don't like how it's done move along

    • bleach kun
      bleach kun 19 days ago +3

      Owchy wowchy somebody's crouchy

    • Breeze Easy
      Breeze Easy 21 day ago +14

      Bad day?

  • D.K
    D.K 22 days ago +22

    Imagine if it was called Willy-Piercer.
    I’d be scared as fuck...

  • Mark  Almendarez
    Mark Almendarez 23 days ago +4

    Pure imagination song stuck in my head

  • Gaj Kosi
    Gaj Kosi 23 days ago +2

    Mindblown

  • dewy
    dewy 23 days ago +9

    This video reminds me of "Illuminati Confirmed" vids from old youtube.
    This is the definition of a fucking stretch, my guy.

  • Blackadder5
    Blackadder5 24 days ago +13

    Something I recalled that is also interesting was that in the Tim Burton remake Wonka mentions that the Oompa Loompas can't stand the cold. So them going extinct due to the climate could be a possibility.

  • christian mccauley
    christian mccauley 27 days ago +23

    A lot of these claims felt kinda forced, like you watched one and then the other with a theory in mind and connected coincidences. That being said the connection with the music was fucking genius. Music cues are very important in movies and if these two were connected it would make a shit ton of sense for that to play at the end.

  • Donut
    Donut 27 days ago +6

    you stole this

    • Muzaffard36
      Muzaffard36 15 days ago +1

      +Donut Stop being an idiot! He literally wrote "Rhino Stew followup" both in the description and in the title, he also made a link to the original video and he gave the credit to Rhino Stew in the few seconds of the beginning of the video.

    • christian mccauley
      christian mccauley 20 days ago +1

      Donut fuck, just look at the description! The link is RIGHT THERE!

    • RocketDakota
      RocketDakota 20 days ago +3

      I assume you just read the name and not watched the video. Because the original is credited alot.

    • christian mccauley
      christian mccauley 20 days ago +2

      Donut he literally said that this was expanding on someone else’s theory and linked it, wth is your deal?

    • Jeffrey Samuels
      Jeffrey Samuels 22 days ago +5

      Donut he credits the source responsible for paying the foundation of this idea for him multiple times throughout the video, including a direct link to the original idea in the video. This clearly counts as something transformative by nature.

  • Josef Kún
    Josef Kún 27 days ago +10

    Honestly most of these like the bucket thing just seem to me too forced, like giving things meaning when there isnt one. But the end, explaining Timmy is the main hero here is mindblowing. Nice video and I hope someone from the movie adresses this.

    • Josef Kún
      Josef Kún 20 days ago +1

      +Alhazred01 I am talking about this video not about whole theory. Ive seen the original video.

    • Alhazred01
      Alhazred01 25 days ago

      Josef Kún no it's not. Watch the real video by rhino stew.

  • Mitch Gibson
    Mitch Gibson 27 days ago +1

    WHAT THE HELL?

  • Dying Meme
    Dying Meme 28 days ago +10

    *_But hey! That’s just a theory... a film theory! Thanks for watching_*

  • Anton Stanley
    Anton Stanley 29 days ago +5

    This is amazingly convincing and I've never seen Snowpiercer :/ gonna watch it tonight!

  • Sean Neville
    Sean Neville Month ago

    I loved this

  • Thestuffgang
    Thestuffgang Month ago +1

    Xpand theory

  • DirtiestHaRRy
    DirtiestHaRRy Month ago +5

    Okay now this has reached ridiculously analyzed level of Kubrick's the shining. Now all we have to wait is someone to argue bong joon ho faked south korea/north korea summit and hid clues in the film.

  • Nice Meme
    Nice Meme Month ago +13

    Most likely it's meant to be a "modern interpretation"

  • Youtube Monetization
    Youtube Monetization Month ago +9

    I think that it might be connected but he is saying "oh he's wearing a hat it's connected oh and he's short theory proved"

  • wesley ross
    wesley ross Month ago +14

    I love how the movie feels inspired by charlie and the chocolate factory but instead of being like a direct spin off, it completely turns the vibe around and makes it dark.

  • Artificer
    Artificer Month ago +2

    Nice work, thanks.

  • wsdpii
    wsdpii Month ago +30

    My theory on CW7 is that Wilfred/Charlie was experimenting with an ice cream that wouldn't melt, then a government found out and tried to use it to reverse global warming

  • Senshi_Tf
    Senshi_Tf Month ago +5

    I dont think the bear would have killed them since i imagine he grown up with out humans

  • Der Maddin
    Der Maddin Month ago +2

    Uff it is interesting but really hard to listen to. Volume!
    Also, it's all about that bass no treple.

    Good follow up. I believe it.

    • Der Maddin
      Der Maddin Month ago

      +Senshi_Tf neither do I. That's why I said Volume. The bass part is about his Voice. I used to do construction work so my hearing is slightly damaged.

    • Senshi_Tf
      Senshi_Tf Month ago

      I font have a Problem with the sound

  • Zachary Snyder
    Zachary Snyder Month ago +13

    The part that got me was the Wonka song notes at the end. That can't be coincidence.

  • NationOne44
    NationOne44 Month ago +2

    H O L Y S H I T x2

  • RichRelease27
    RichRelease27 Month ago +33

    WonkaPiecer sounds better than SnowWilly

    • FB I
      FB I 22 days ago

      RichRelease27 snowwilly sounds like a lumberjack prono

  • DankTheGank
    DankTheGank Month ago +3

    Your mom Wonkas my Willy.

  • rehtaeh77
    rehtaeh77 Month ago +4

    I love these theory videos. You can’t watch them and not believe the connections

  • Mens Elf
    Mens Elf Month ago +2

    Isn’t the chocolate factory considered a ‘bad’ food factory, because it makes all sorts or food that isn’t great for you.
    Couldn’t you also look the same at a frozen world. Because the normal world could be called a food factory because we grow food on it, but a frozen world would be a bad place to grow food: a bad food factory.
    At the end of both movies, the kid gets a bad food factory.
    I thought that was kind of cool.

  • sol walker
    sol walker Month ago +1

    I feel like this is a bite the onion moment

  • Critical Thinking always

    Whats fucked is in 2019 the govt has announced there going to try something similar to combat global warming 😂 anyone have an armored train shits gonna go sideways quik

    • Yeet tbh
      Yeet tbh Month ago

      Critical Thinking always yea I have one my name is Charles wildfire

  • Lord Demonoss
    Lord Demonoss Month ago +6

    Thanks but I'm already convinced. Hope you also have your ticket ready.

  • Donald Dump
    Donald Dump Month ago +2

    Seen that vid by stew and it blew my mind. Great follow up vid. Yeah I'm convinced as well

  • Jordash W
    Jordash W Month ago +3

    Charlie wanted to experiment with candy so he accidentally made cw7 and the government picked it up to combat global warming as in the movie

  • david o
    david o Month ago +3

    They want you mind soul and you body...

    • david o
      david o Month ago

      +Mike Mike Asewe namaste!!!!!

    • Mike Mike
      Mike Mike Month ago +1

      david o riPRODIGY.

  • T S
    T S Month ago +3

    CW7 has nothing on ICE 9

  • John Ford
    John Ford Month ago +7

    They Only Reason Most People Disagree Is Because They're White And Hate The Stunning Fact That He Spoke On When He Said Curtis Was Originally Supposed To Be Black! C'mon Man It's Too Many Connection's With Both Movies! FACT 💯

  • Johannes Vollmer
    Johannes Vollmer Month ago +3

    Are you irony

  • Brother Joey
    Brother Joey Month ago +5

    so far fetched

    • Seven Nine
      Seven Nine Month ago

      +ahmet said alkur I'm usually skeptical myself but the music used is identical. Out of infinite melodies Joon-ho Bong decided to use the theme from willy wonka specifically...?

    • ahmet said alkur
      ahmet said alkur Month ago

      nah its just nitpicking, you can find these kind of similarities between any 2 movies if you analyse this much

    • IGazeYouInTheHaze
      IGazeYouInTheHaze Month ago

      Oh yeah yeah

  • DiogoSantosROLF
    DiogoSantosROLF Month ago +3

    Why tf are u stealing vids

    • Kyle Blackmore
      Kyle Blackmore 22 days ago

      Diogo please die

    • kulitmed
      kulitmed 27 days ago

      It's fair use. He's doing a commentary on a commentary of a movie. It's perfectly fine. It's Commentaception.

    • мιкαн
      мιкαн Month ago +1

      chill, it said its a followup to rhino's video.

    • Hoodini 0915
      Hoodini 0915 Month ago +12

      DiogoSantosROLF it literally says rhino stew follow up on the title and he’s pretty much giving him credit for his work so calm ur tits

  • Andy
    Andy Month ago +2

    *applauding!

  • benas stasiukaitis
    benas stasiukaitis Month ago +5

    mind blown

  • Hyperion Spy
    Hyperion Spy Month ago +6

    A bit of a stretch imo

  • Luykis Wamhoff
    Luykis Wamhoff Month ago +9

    I personally think it makes more sence to say that Snowpiercer is just the events of Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory taking place in an alternate reality.

    • Seven Nine
      Seven Nine Month ago

      I'd agree, the movie is a plagiarism of Willy Wonka. Sending messages in food (golden ticket) the adventure through the train (factory) the crowds obsession for kronole (candy) and Gilliam/Mason/Masked warriors play identical roles to Slugworth/Veruca/Oompas just in different contexts.

  • Anonymous vlogs Private

    please someone make the wonkapearcer 2.0 film with the two strandet kids

  • Lee M
    Lee M Month ago +6

    I think you should seek professional psychological help.

    • Fresh Mangos
      Fresh Mangos 29 days ago +3

      I mean the connections were there and they seem rational and logical so calm your tits down damn, youre not having a great day huh?

  • Skitzophrenic
    Skitzophrenic Month ago +2

    I CLICKED SKIP AHEAD AND IT JUST PAUSED THE VIDEO! HE'S A PHONY!
    and the video in the classroom says he started liking trains as a young BOY! HE'S A BIG PHONY!

  • Matthew Smith
    Matthew Smith Month ago +3

    What about the actual sequel? Charlie and the chocolate factory?

  • Kobrag90
    Kobrag90 Month ago +1

    Great quality video. :D

  • Burgunbeerd
    Burgunbeerd Month ago +2

    lost me after you tried to connect him to a bucket appearing when his name is said

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  Month ago +4

      Saying that - I later realised that it happens twice in the same shot - with bucket only appearing both times exactly when 'Curtis' is spoken - I showed it more clearly in the latest video: tvclip.biz/video/IY2Y_SvwNb0/video.html So check that see what you think!

  • Chill Cosby
    Chill Cosby Month ago +5

    ur taking some leaps here

  • Zelda Casablancas
    Zelda Casablancas Month ago +3

    No, I don’t think so...

    • Kyle Blackmore
      Kyle Blackmore 22 days ago

      +Zelda Casablancas thank you

    • Zelda Casablancas
      Zelda Casablancas 22 days ago

      Kyle Blackmore and while the original theory was well thought out and put together everything this person had to add to it was complete bullshit.

    • Zelda Casablancas
      Zelda Casablancas 22 days ago

      It doesn’t make sense and it’s reaching for way too much🤷🏻‍♀️

    • Kyle Blackmore
      Kyle Blackmore 22 days ago

      Nice argument, a lot of good counterpoints on your part....

  • Shotana Studios
    Shotana Studios Month ago +8

    Really stretching bud. Original theory was conclusive enough, this is just cherry picking.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  Month ago

      There is more to it! tvclip.biz/video/IY2Y_SvwNb0/video.html Made another video with a few more connections..

  • PhantomXIX
    PhantomXIX Month ago +7

    I think some of these points are absolutely stretching it and dont have much of any correlation. But i agree with the original theory and about the music. That is really convincing

    • Josef
      Josef Month ago

      ​+PhantomXIX I doubt you never heard that particular arrangement of three consecutive notes. The "just like me" in Close To You is the first example that came to mind (/watch?v=iFx-5PGLgb4#t=22) . Besides, Nomadic Kong even says they changed the last note of the three-note theme to "sound more dramatic" 6:26. If you change one note in a three-note theme, you now have just two notes. Nobody is going to argue that a two-note segment defines a whole movie. What's more, the stress of the tune is, too, different. Willy Wonka's "walk with [me]" phrase only stresses the third note, the "walk with" being the song's anacrusis. Whereas Snowpiercer's "[walk] with [me]" as shown in this video stresses the first and the third note.
      Thinking these two musical pieces are related in any way, at least based on the information presented in this video, is an utter stretch.

    • PhantomXIX
      PhantomXIX Month ago

      +Josef Also that it becomes less likely of a coincidence since they were the same specific notes that play in the same order as thr orignal song, ive never heard another song start with those same three notes

    • PhantomXIX
      PhantomXIX Month ago

      +Josef Three specific notes in 88 keys on a piano and it is repeated in the snowpiercer im pretty sure and also, it's the iconic song from the movie and most people would count it as the theme of the chocolate factory. And im pretty sure the piano in the original from the chocolate factory(not the vocal notes) are also, i think, in the same octave as the snowpiercer put it in when it was on key, pretty sure it was the same octave.

    • Josef
      Josef Month ago

      the music is actually one of the least convincing parts of this video. Three notes does not a theme make. Especially since those three notes don't repeat as they do in Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory

  • DJ Kento
    DJ Kento Month ago +4

    this looks for too many connections, many that likely aren't there, ruining the magic of the first video. Good job. You've ruined this theory for me.

    • Seven Nine
      Seven Nine Month ago +1

      You ruined it for yourself with your shitty outlook. People that aren't open minded or reasonable are a dime a dozen. Stay in your box.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  Month ago

      But there are more connections to be found - tvclip.biz/video/IY2Y_SvwNb0/video.html - Made another video, some are stretches sure, but some are very specific...!

    • Zach Standen
      Zach Standen Month ago +2

      DJ Kento damn ur bitter bruh

  • King Heart
    King Heart Month ago +4

    Great now I want a movie about the little boy now

  • Natedog223
    Natedog223 Month ago

    Whats wrong with the captions?

    • Natedog223
      Natedog223 Month ago

      Yes it is fixed

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  Month ago

      Hopefully that's all fixed now! :D

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  Month ago

      Erm dunno, choose the ones that just say 'English' and that should be the ones I typed myself to sync up properly?

  • help
    help Month ago +6

    Fun fact:
    Cockroach protein bar was based on japanese candy Yokan(Sweet jelly of red beans)

  • Matthew Chant
    Matthew Chant Month ago +2

    HIS FUCKING CABINETS LOOK LIKE CHOCOLATE BARS IM FUCKING DONE FAM

  • BuardChannel
    BuardChannel Month ago

    🤯🤯🤯

  • nativechatter999
    nativechatter999 2 months ago +3

    The narrative parallels really got me lol

  • Brandon Phillips
    Brandon Phillips 2 months ago +17

    What about the fucking top hat on top of the scarf lmao

  • Marie Winter
    Marie Winter 2 months ago +13

    Ahh the proper place to be at 4am

  • Scott Taylor
    Scott Taylor 2 months ago +13

    I also commented this on the other video, but the machines in both movies are equally showboaty, over-engineered to portray extravagance on top of their efficiency. We can't JUST make chocolate, we need to have it flow past as a river. We can't JUST raise fish, we need to have a walk-in aquarium car complete with inedible Manta Rays.

  • fatima diallo
    fatima diallo 2 months ago +9

    I still can’t get over that other video now there’s this one too lol. I ain’t even mad though cuz this is amazing

  • Dee Dee Joseph
    Dee Dee Joseph 2 months ago +5

    It's 2:15AM this theory is really getting to me. It's a very bizarre and fun theory. With so many connections linking to the stories it's hard to think that it's not so far of a stretch

    • Joe Kerr
      Joe Kerr Month ago

      You can do they with a lot of unrelated films though.

  • Jake Condemn
    Jake Condemn 2 months ago +2

    I want snowpiercer 2

  • Pablo Aguilar
    Pablo Aguilar 2 months ago +4

    This is a fun theory! I'd love a confirmation by now from both parties.

  • Maria Pattison
    Maria Pattison 2 months ago +2

    i can't say for sure whether i fully believe this theory... but your video brings up interesting points! even if it is all coincidence, props to you for finding so much evidence and creating a fun fascinating video with it! i like to imagine that even if it's not a direct sequel, snowpiercer is somewhat of a spiritual sequel to willy wonka. thanks for sharing it w us!

  • EBBCO REPAIRS
    EBBCO REPAIRS 2 months ago +3

    After a lot of research, Snowpiercer is definitely a child of someone who really liked Willy Wonka and what it could have become. But not a sequel. Probably going to catch a copy write case.

  • Snappa
    Snappa 2 months ago +4

    I feel snowpiercer was probably inspired by Willy wonka but I don’t believe both are related.

    • Prism Volt
      Prism Volt 2 months ago

      Yeah, I view more as a dark, violent homage.

  • Wigoo W
    Wigoo W 2 months ago +4

    This whole Wonkapiercer theory and especially your video are prime examples of confirmation bias. It's all pure coincidence. If you want to find links between any two things, you will find them. It is true that both movies share some similar themes, but so do a dozen others. Hiding various objects or messages in food items for example is a pretty common theme. Think of fortune cookies, files in cakes or messages on a gum wrapper. The latter even fits the candy criterium. Same for the music: So many soundtracks feature similar notes and chord progressions.
    The only rather interesting argument is Oompa Loompas powering the perpetuum mobile.

    • Zarkyun
      Zarkyun Month ago +3

      You say confirmation bias, I say cognitive dissonance. There is simply to many parallels here to just set it aside as pure coincidence. I mean does it have to be spelled out for you? Do you really think they could get away with it legally if they just slapped it down like "HEY THIS IS A WILLY WONKA SEQUEL!" But I just love how many people go "confirmation bias! confirmation bias!" to every theory they don't believe in. Yeah there are some things that could be called stretching it here but somehow the best you can come up with is "hiding stuff in food is normal" ffs. You aren't even trying.

  • Salt Miner
    Salt Miner 2 months ago +2

    1k channel, 100k content.

  • trolling life
    trolling life 2 months ago +6

    Ill say this man machinery doesnt go extinct child sized orange men do...

    • X RandomXCity X
      X RandomXCity X 2 months ago +1

      Oompa loompas cannot survive in cold weather

    • Flux_Time
      Flux_Time 2 months ago +1

      +Bolek Lolek oompa loompas

    • Bolek Lolek
      Bolek Lolek 2 months ago

      was that a trump joke? 😂

  • You Don't Want To Know Me
    You Don't Want To Know Me 2 months ago +2

    It could have been willy piercer or snow willy

  • Ben Shapiro’s Greasy Cock

    The whole scarf thing is a stretch, especially considering that there’s literally a top hat literally on top of it.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  2 months ago

      The latest video I released has the scarf done with more detail (and it shows off the top hat too) - check it out if you like! tvclip.biz/video/IY2Y_SvwNb0/video.html :D

    • trolling life
      trolling life 2 months ago +1

      But whos top hat 'xfiles music

  • Jacqui G
    Jacqui G 2 months ago +1

    Admittedly i haven't watched Snowpiercer yet, but I liked the original theory. But this just blows the other one away. The music for sure and I like where you went with the ending.

    • Mr Dmc
      Mr Dmc Month ago

      Snowpiercer is worth the watch

  • Emjoria
    Emjoria 2 months ago +1

    The motif with the music is very convincing.

  • Pyknus
    Pyknus 2 months ago +2

    You spelled of wrong at 7:40. It's spelled as oof.

  • Dan-Axel Coza
    Dan-Axel Coza 2 months ago +1

    This makes me realise that Boon is a genius

  • Greg Robinette
    Greg Robinette 2 months ago +8

    I also just noticed the pregnant teachers dress in snowpiercer is nearly identical to the pattern of the flavored wallpaper in Charlie and the chocolate factory

    • Greg Robinette
      Greg Robinette 2 months ago +1

      8:43 is the best look

    • Greg Robinette
      Greg Robinette 2 months ago +1

      +Nomadic Kong its a standard floral print but it has all the same colors, and a downward cascading pattern, maybe not identical but damn close at a glance

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  2 months ago +1

      Ha, excellent observation! I'll check that out - thanks! :D

  • Min Yoonji
    Min Yoonji 2 months ago +12

    and oompa loompas die in cold temperatures

  • Janski 14
    Janski 14 2 months ago +8

    this video be like "hey i see a brown object in the dark, it must be the _BRIGHT RED SCARF_ "

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  2 months ago

      Yeah, I addressed that in the latest video - made it a little clearer what I was going on about.. Check it out! tvclip.biz/video/IY2Y_SvwNb0/video.html :D

  • GARUGAMESH
    GARUGAMESH 2 months ago +5

    You'll hurt yourself reaching this hard. At this point you're just seeing what you want to see. That's obviously not a scarf, dumbass, your imagination put it there. You're watering down the original theory which was pretty solid and well researched with this made up bullshit.

    • GARUGAMESH
      GARUGAMESH 2 months ago

      It's not just the scarf, everything you mentioned here is far fetched, I'm not going to watch any more of your videos obviously

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  2 months ago

      See the comment above - addressed the scarf thing a bit more in the latest vid.. Check it out! tvclip.biz/video/IY2Y_SvwNb0/video.html :P

    • Min Yoonji
      Min Yoonji 2 months ago

      well it was a good try now stop

    • Taylor E
      Taylor E 2 months ago +1

      need a hug?

  • Nik Muhammad Asyraf
    Nik Muhammad Asyraf 2 months ago +2

    there are flaws in this theory...all your elements only shows that snowpiercer just take the element from Willy Wonka bcus u told that Charlie equal to Curtis.If it is the sequel,it should be Charlie equal to William and the bucket should be shown up whenever Willian name come up not Curtis.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  2 months ago +1

      Wilford is meant to be Charlie grown up, but I think that Curtis and Timmy are Charlie Bucket analogues (they go through a similar plot progression from poverty to (potential) food factory ownership over the course of both movies. Did a bit more about the bucket thing in he latest vid - check it out! tvclip.biz/video/IY2Y_SvwNb0/video.html

  • James Younger
    James Younger 2 months ago +2

    Lol cocaines a helluva drug!

  • radseven89
    radseven89 2 months ago +2

    So in this theory why does Mike TV go from Right-handed to Left-handed?

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  2 months ago +2

      +radseven89 Since I put this video out, I've found it so fascinating how different people respond to it - I've learnt a lot from different people noticing details I completely overlooked (like this gun thing!). You're right that it seems a very deliberate casting choice...
      It may just be because Chris Evans is right-handed, and they wanted to have someone opposite. In the scene where they are shooting at each other through the windows, there is lots of mirroring. One shoots, the other shoots, one reloads, the other reloads etc... One of the themes in the movie is keeping things in balance. So visually it becomes more dynamic and varied if they are firing/and reloading with opposite hands (that mirror-image idea). That scene is a weird sort of fulcrum at the middle of the movie, where these two forces (Curtis/Franco) are opposing each other, one wanting change, one wanting stasis. It may be one of those things where they wanted to prioritise the visuals, and the Wonka thing was less important.
      There's also a video I found very interesting by 'Every Frame A Painting' where they discus the symbolisms of left vs. right in Snowpiercer - tvclip.biz/video/X05TDsoSg2Y/video.html - you should check it out! :)

    • radseven89
      radseven89 2 months ago

      ​+Nomadic Kong Guns are my hobby so I always pay attention to gun related things in movies and this movie I have to say is pretty accurate with the way they handle the guns. It just seemed like a deliberate casting choice to choose a left handed person for the role of guy who is really good at shooting when they only make up 10% of the population. I do believe your theory about him being reassembled wrong is interesting though. Perhaps he was assembled backwards and that in some way affected his mental state as well.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  2 months ago +1

      Great spot though! I didn't notice that, and the thing about him firing a left-handed gun (to avoid the cartridges going in his face) is very interesting! :D

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  2 months ago +1

      +radseven89 Just checked the movies - while you only see Mike shoot right-handed, he does always wear a gun holster on each hip - so presumably he was able to shoot with both hands? Also you see Franco the Elder pick up things with the right hand (scissors/knife) so you could argue that he is ambidextrous?
      I think it could just be for cinematic (or maybe just casting) reasons - Curtis is right handed, so it makes their show-downs a bit more epic in terms of the framing of the shots when they are shooting at each other. There's also that centuries old thing of heroes entering from the right of the theatre stage, and villains from the left (sinister means left-handed in Latin, dextrous means right-handed), so it highlights the whole hero/villain thing a bit more maybe.
      Also Vlad Ivanov (who played Franco) is nearly 20 years younger than Ed Harris - so the theory definitely has some places where it doesn't hang together exactly - but also, as I think it was probably an entirely unofficial sequel/remake, there's a lot of creative license taken in places (it's more in the spirit/story of the previous movie than an exact sync-up). Maybe he's meant to actually be the son of Mike? :D

    • radseven89
      radseven89 2 months ago

      +Nomadic Kong It seems like a pretty glaring piece of evidence against that specific part of the theory. Also when he and curtis are trying to shoot each other during the trains turn scene, Mike TV fires (and carries) his rifle left handed. Now there would be no good reason to be firing a right handed rifle, left handed at that point, the empty cartridges would be flying into your face.

  • Liquidated
    Liquidated 2 months ago +4

    Not a far stretch to have a director/screenwriter being a big fan of a classic book/film.

  • Madison
    Madison 2 months ago +7

    *Film Theory wants to know your location*

  • pianist150
    pianist150 2 months ago +6

    I'll never forgive you 2 for actually convincing me of this