The Predator #1 At The Box Despite Flopping

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  • ricosauve5
    ricosauve5 2 months ago

    It's a flop. Time to end the franchise

  • C. Smith
    C. Smith 2 months ago

    They didn’t advertise it enough.

  • Sarah lee
    Sarah lee 2 months ago +1

    Now we all no why Arnold Schwarzenegger said no to the predator movie

  • RubenG72
    RubenG72 2 months ago

    The only possible way to resurrect The Predator was to bring back Dutch!

  • wufolife
    wufolife 2 months ago +1

    There are a lot of ppl who loved the predator. I hope it gets stronger as the weeks go by. I’m def going to watch it.

  • Samson Lee Sang
    Samson Lee Sang 2 months ago

    Massive Disappointment

  • Manny Santiago
    Manny Santiago 2 months ago

    A worthy successor to the original this movie is not. It has none of the suspense, none of the tension... it takes the predator franchise in silly directions.
    A predator, which is supposed to be stronger, smarter than humans, has better tech, travels intergalacticly etc. can be taken out by a gang of wisecracking misfits almost at will now?
    Decent popcorn action movie. Not much of a worthy expansion of the predator universe. This franchise is pretty much dead.
    John Mctiernan caught lightning in the bottle with the first movie. I think we should resign ourselves to the fact that no other predator movie will ever be as good again.
    Either that, or we give James Cameron a swing at it.

  • PurelyAfrican
    PurelyAfrican 2 months ago

    Henry golding 2 films in top 5?! looks like he's on course to being given the next hollywood leading man.

  • ninjaman dragonslayer
    ninjaman dragonslayer 2 months ago

    I love the new pred movie .

  • gordon Freeman
    gordon Freeman 2 months ago +1

    i partially blame the trailers.
    it took what, 3 of them before they got a tone established for the film?

  • Marvel Man
    Marvel Man 2 months ago

    There alot of scenes that was cut from the movie if they would of kept them then yea it would of made more money for sure i mean i enjoy it but Fox is really messing up, maybe thats why Disney bought them

  • Amran Saddique
    Amran Saddique 2 months ago

    It was trash and deserves the hate !!

  • RottenAppleNY
    RottenAppleNY 2 months ago

    If the movie had Dutch, or if Kevin Feige took control, I’m telling you it would top everything

  • Marita Olsson
    Marita Olsson 2 months ago

    I`m not Predator fan, The Nun was bad reviews too but we don`t care as long as the moviegoers love it right?? The Fox was not happy because Predator was expensive movie.. The Nuns budget is 20 million.. Congrats to all the the cast of the movie and Warner brother!

  • Lenny McDaniel
    Lenny McDaniel 2 months ago

    It made over a year $50 million worldwide.

  • FahQ Hue
    FahQ Hue 2 months ago

    Who ever liked this film must’ve been dropped on the head as a baby..

  • al g
    al g 2 months ago

    Turning an amazing horror movie into a slapstick comedy.. F that.

  • Julien Latour
    Julien Latour 2 months ago

    How in hell can they f manage to fail all predator movie?? I mean, beside the first and second one you guys tell me...This last predator is so bad ..So baaad!! You f see him running over the street...WTF!!!

  • Arnold
    Arnold 2 months ago

    I loved it

  • MrPikehead
    MrPikehead 2 months ago

    the people want horror and Little action.

  • Anthony Bertuzzi
    Anthony Bertuzzi 2 months ago

    because we are in a state of idiocy , Alot of people fed off the hype , past fans expecting something but ultimately didn't get what they saw , Alot of people who enjoy stupid pointless humor in their films . Another film will get less attention because of theis new one just like star wars then media will just turn it into some kind of men hating thing

  • simon says
    simon says 2 months ago +1

    The movie was shit, the story had potential but was lame, the script was shit, the whole movie was shot in the dark, the CGI looked weak and when this movie cost 88 million dollars, they were badly ripped off. Looks like a cheap b movie adaptation! Don't waste your money!

  • Matt D
    Matt D 2 months ago +5

    So unless it kills in foreign markets, safe to say this might be the last Predator film we see for a very long while

  • Tropi Cano
    Tropi Cano 2 months ago

    Glad disney bought fox my favourite character won’t be botched ever again in 7 years I will make the predator film niggas want

  • Creamith Manning
    Creamith Manning 2 months ago

    It has a C+ Cinemascore Rating. lol This film definitely isn't being saved by word-of-mouth.

  • patrice marcaggi
    patrice marcaggi 2 months ago

    Agree! ..it's time to stop FOX bad management ; and in few years ...to wait a big" ALIEN //PREDATOR VS X-MEN " by Disney !

  • H1vey
    H1vey 2 months ago +1

    We won't see another Predator movie for many years because of this. If ever. The franchise is now dead.

    • H1vey
      H1vey 2 months ago

      +Ghost Of War because this film will lose money, obviously.

    • Ghost Of War
      Ghost Of War 2 months ago

      Becouse of what exactly ?

  • Mario Faker
    Mario Faker 2 months ago

    Uhh, maybe because it was only available to watch on Friday if you have MoviePass? I wanted to watch Sunday, but it was a “premium” screening according to MoviePass.

  • DrewEl2
    DrewEl2 2 months ago

    It was a good flick after a joint. Wasn't that bad

  • John Howard
    John Howard 2 months ago +1

    Dammit, now we won’t get a Predator 5, but we’ll get The Conjuring part XXXV...

  • Christopher Snyder
    Christopher Snyder 2 months ago

    John Campea, I don't think Fox cares... they are making how much selling to Disney??

    • Jx Styx
      Jx Styx 2 months ago

      Losing money is losing money. They care, they're just not panicking.

  • Allan Alberts
    Allan Alberts 2 months ago

    Has not opened in China yet. In saying that no predator movie has ever opened in China. Rumor is there is a date set for release. Aliens has opened in china however.

  • The BlackBox Pocast show
    The BlackBox Pocast show 2 months ago +2

    Time to retire the Franchise , #endthehunt LOL

  • ToroidalVortexLove
    ToroidalVortexLove 2 months ago +3

    The studio shouldn't have changed the ending then. Cos that ending was wack.

  • JonnySuite13
    JonnySuite13 2 months ago +2

    They should've brought in Arnold and made it a proper sequel.

    • Mr. Manager
      Mr. Manager 2 months ago

      Because it worked so well for the Terminator franchise.

  • Tramaine Terrance
    Tramaine Terrance 2 months ago +1

    The trailers look terrible. I'm not surprised by this.
    TERRANCE OUT

  • monotoneguy
    monotoneguy 2 months ago

    Also depends how well it did in China and since both alien and predator hasn't been well received by fans, I wonder what the future holds for these two franchises considering Disney bought Fox

  • Andrew Costello
    Andrew Costello 2 months ago +4

    This Predator film was terrible. I'm amazed it made that much. A simple favor was WAY BETTER.

  • Alastair
    Alastair 2 months ago

    Now we wait almost 10 more years for a Predator movie which will maybe be good. Fuck.

  • Anthony Hernandez
    Anthony Hernandez 2 months ago

    I liked it

  • Cody Jordan
    Cody Jordan 2 months ago

    Didn't you say it would be around 25 MIL John.

  • cas grafx
    cas grafx 2 months ago +1

    This movie was terrible

  • Just Ricky!
    Just Ricky! 2 months ago +2

    Wow, if you doing worst than 'The Mummy' Black & Fox Studio are doing things wrong. Well, at least there were no 'Dark Universe' type logo in the beginning lol. I didn't like this movie because of its plot and bad editing. People like Sterling K. would disappear without explanation(including the pit bull) for example. People cringed(including myself) when Nebraska killed himself after we learned about his backstory. I like the actors including Sterling K, Nebraska, Munn and lessers like Key. Ironically, I thought I was going hate Key's character from the trailers, but ending up disliking Quinn's character. Nebraska had the better backstory than the lead, which is strange. I HATED the end of this movie! So, I guess the studio going for an Iron Man Predator. Everything about the ending was stupid, and no one in my audience clapped like we usually do at the end...

    • Just Ricky!
      Just Ricky! 2 months ago +1

      This is the dumbest reply I ever got. I didn't mention race, but it sounds like you are looking for it esp. if you think it puts down white male actors. I said Munn was good and lessor actors. If you watched the movie you would know Quinn was just a generic character, yet Nebraska had a better storyline. And I said in my original post that it was strange for a costar to have better backstory than the star. Now keep your white supremacy to yourself and your kind.

  • Angel Gonzalez
    Angel Gonzalez 2 months ago

    I actually enjoyed it

  • NOD_MAKO
    NOD_MAKO 2 months ago

    The movie was absolutely horrible but I do want it to make enough profit so they will consider future movies...I just can’t believe they keep fuckn up

  • Mutton Man
    Mutton Man 2 months ago +1

    It's crazy that they spent 88mill on this when the previous predator only made 55mill. How did they think they were ever going to make money with this film?

  • jo 88
    jo 88 2 months ago +5

    The worst film of the year for me. Truly awful.

  • Tony Woods
    Tony Woods 2 months ago

    To be totally fair to the movie, Hurricane Florence did hurt the box office.

    • Tony Woods
      Tony Woods 2 months ago

      Shaquille Shaw I wasn’t trying to say the movie didn’t suck. All I was saying is that people like me were dealing with the hurricane. I wasn’t able to get to the theater if I wanted to or not. Now that the worst seems to be over, hurricane victims might go see it. It looks like it might be disappointing though.

    • Shaquille Shaw
      Shaquille Shaw 2 months ago

      Except 1 problem
      IT came out around the same time and grossed over 700 million while having a smaller budget than the predator. This was during the time hurricane irma happened

      The reviews hurted the predator

  • Buddy Bigs
    Buddy Bigs 2 months ago

    I actually really enjoyed the movie. I have my gripes with it, like the way they handled the predator we're familiar with, and the ending.
    Aside from that I actually really enjoyed the movie

  • jayakrishnan r
    jayakrishnan r 2 months ago +3

    Think of all the excuses that shills made for Solo when it debuted calling it anything but a flop. The Predator (2018) has made 54 million $ worldwide in its opening weekend and it still has chances to recoup it's budget.

  • Hitmonkey
    Hitmonkey 2 months ago +4

    Fox have destroyed the Predator, Alien, Terminator, and X-Men franchises. The sooner they hand it all over to Disney the better.

    • Mr. Manager
      Mr. Manager 2 months ago

      +RenegadeRaida You can hate it all you want, edgelord, but it takes one look at the box office to see this is the most successful version of Spiderman. And audiences clearly love the MCU.

    • Joes Reviews
      Joes Reviews 2 months ago

      +RenegadeRaida Resorting to name calling? Seems this discussion is at an end.

    • Joes Reviews
      Joes Reviews 2 months ago

      +RenegadeRaida Depends in 15 years are you gonna shit all over a hypothetical Episode 10, 12 and 13, saying 7 8 9 were great?

    • Joes Reviews
      Joes Reviews 2 months ago

      +RenegadeRaida Thats not what people were saying 15 years ago....

    • Hitmonkey
      Hitmonkey 2 months ago

      @RenegadeRaida 10 million is nothing? It's the biggest selling comic of all time. The X-Men were more popular in the 80's and 90's than they are now. That is a fact. They had a massive animated series, their comics were everywhere, their merch was everywhere, they sold action figures by the truck load, they were on every cereal box, they were on every lunch box, they were a phenomenon. They were more popular then than they are now or have ever been since the movies came out. Do not fool yourself for one second into thinking that is not the case.

  • Ben Williams
    Ben Williams 2 months ago +2

    There was a shot in the final trailer of the mercs in a tank... not in the movie... there were set photos of the predator teaming up with the team... spoiler alert it didn’t happen.

  • invisibleaznDJ
    invisibleaznDJ 2 months ago +2

    Well, i guess this means the end of the franchise......

  • Danny Rowan
    Danny Rowan 2 months ago

    First and second parts of the movie was good but 3rd act so bad :(

  • Steven Johnson
    Steven Johnson 2 months ago +1

    This movie will flop.

  • Bigbad Crawford
    Bigbad Crawford 2 months ago +1

    It is sad that they can't make another great Predator movie. I liked the one with Royce and would have loved a sequel.

  • DJSiQRiQ
    DJSiQRiQ 2 months ago

    Predator blood tears?

  • TOTAL OS TODAY
    TOTAL OS TODAY 2 months ago +1

    In real estate, "location, location, location" In Hollywood, "story, story, story." But they keep messing it up, messing it up, messing it up. Makes me very angry my father is still searching for a distribution deal on a true story movie. What's next, Godzilla VS Wonder Woman?

  • Anthony Piseno
    Anthony Piseno 2 months ago +1

    I went in expecting a bad movie and it exceeded those expectations by being worst. It was an editing mess and none of the trailers were good. No one has been asking for predator and if you can't regain what the original had, dont bother.

  • Paul Leon
    Paul Leon 2 months ago +1

    Words of mouths said The Predator movie was so comedic and not taken seriously. Therefore compare to Prometheus: ALIENS > predator! That was major point I didn't support the movie.

  • Jordan Smit
    Jordan Smit 2 months ago

    #orginalPredatorfilm at change.org come help support

  • stawg007
    stawg007 2 months ago +3

    Should have went horror with much lower budget

  • Neophenom
    Neophenom 2 months ago +10

    This movie broke me. If this is the best Hollywood can do with this character, then I hope this is the last one for good.
    The first one did such a brilliant job at establishing the Predator, that it baffles me how inconsistent and superfluous it's been since. The second one did a good job at trying to change things while keeping some of the original charm, despite it's flaws. Even AvP tried to add to the lore in a meaningful way, meager execution notwithstanding.
    This however...was garbage. From the inconsistent Alien tech (biometric systems seem forgein to the space traveling race), bad VFXs, cringe characters, and over abundance of plot devices that includes the kid (a recurring thing for Shane Black).
    This had no redeeming qualities as a movie in general.

  • FaB92 N
    FaB92 N 2 months ago +14

    Bad news for Fox and Predator.

  • 1Maenad
    1Maenad 2 months ago +12

    Should we be looking for a "Shane Black cut?"

    • Shaquille Shaw
      Shaquille Shaw 2 months ago

      +KevinAmbrose he did until the first test screening
      That's why the entire 3rd act was shit cause he had to reshoot it

    • MλFDOMiNUS
    • 1Maenad
      1Maenad 2 months ago

      I was joking. I seriously doubt that there would be one.

    • Platinum Poop
      Platinum Poop 2 months ago

      I know Shane was asked if there would be a director's cut and he pretty made it seem there won''t be because it's going to cost even more money to edit those scenes and put the effects in.

    • ToroidalVortexLove
      ToroidalVortexLove 2 months ago +1

      The ending completely changed from the original script. Not just the Arnie cameo leaving, but the motivation of the original Predator and the contents of that pod all changed. Could have been Shane Black's decision but I suspect it was the studio that wanted to tease a sequel. 100 percent want a Shane Black cut.

  • ClayDog Madman
    ClayDog Madman 2 months ago +9

    There's so much potential in the Predator franchise that these genius won't even tap into...
    How about they explore into another time frame era, like a Western era type, like cow boys and Aliens of some sort, but only on a much better scale...
    As I mentioned before, they could even have the Predator movie in the Egyptian era in reference to the flashback scenes that we saw in the Alien vs. Predator movie...
    So much untapped potential in this franchise and these clowns won't even explore, they still insist on fucking around with the same bunk ass tiering concept...

  • LOVE AND ZOMBIES
    LOVE AND ZOMBIES 2 months ago +14

    Predator was fun. It was campy, violent, over the top and totally not PC at all. Pretty clear why critics and audiences alike in 2018 are hating on it. If it was made 10 years ago it would've done much better.

    • titanpaladin
      titanpaladin 2 months ago +1

      LOVE AND ZOMBIES u are totally right. I not seen a good review of predator. I saw it I loved it. Pretty good movie

    • Adriel Omar Díaz
      Adriel Omar Díaz 2 months ago

      Redscape predators wasnt that violent so just stfu really this one had more gore and violence and is way better than predators the only thing why predators was well received was because of the hype they made out of lying people into seeing it in the trailer when they show like 20 predators laser dots on royce so everyone got hyped like oh shit 20 predators and when u see the actual movie it was so garbage that they kill off the best characters and the classic predator and on top of that beserker looked like straight to DVD trash fuck u nigga 🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼

    • LOVE AND ZOMBIES
      LOVE AND ZOMBIES 2 months ago +2

      RenegadeRaida - did you see it? *spoilers* the autism and Tourette’s syndrome portrayal, commentary and jokes as well as sexist jokes and comments throughout. It would have been right at home in the 90’s and early 00’s but it’s a tough sell in 2018 where everyone is triggered by everything.

    • Redscape
      Redscape 2 months ago +3

      Predators came out 8 years ago, was violent, was actually better received, wasn't "PC", and still made about the same in it's opening weekend. The general audience just doesn't care about the Predator franchise anymore.

  • RoCk'In RoLl AlIeN from Japan

    The Predator is triple better than AVP-R, PROMETHEUS, and ALIEN COVENANT.

    • RoCk'In RoLl AlIeN from Japan
      RoCk'In RoLl AlIeN from Japan 2 months ago

      Who say it was bad, no one, The Predator is just more popcorn fun than Prometheus, Alien Covenant and AVP-R, that's all.

    • Sergio Silva
      Sergio Silva 2 months ago +1

      No, Prometheus is Good.

  • Moff Tarkin
    Moff Tarkin 2 months ago +5

    I knew this movie would be terrible cause of whose the director.

    • Patrick Yip
      Patrick Yip 2 months ago +1

      Well, Shane Black is not good at handling franchises, that's for sure. He almost destroyed Iron man 3, it was only watchable due to the excellent performance by RDJ and Guy Pearce.

    • Moff Tarkin
      Moff Tarkin 2 months ago +2

      +Luka Lame ok I was wrong. I didnt know he had something to do with the Lethal Weapon movies and Monster Squad.

    • Luka Lame
      Luka Lame 2 months ago +1

      Moff Tarkin yeah sure thing let's forget movies like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys. Or all the scripts he has written for movies that people like a lot.

  • Jeb Kush
    Jeb Kush 2 months ago +30

    I expected it to be way worse because of the reviews. It was cool.

    • Rogue Reaper
      Rogue Reaper 2 months ago

      @Allan Alberts
      doesn't surprise me, there is alot of pathetic people out there who will jump on any bandwagon just to feel relevant.
      That's why memes are a thing.

    • mmm6325
      mmm6325 2 months ago

      I watched it twice and i wouldnt mind paying for the 3rd time. I wasnt bored for a minute both times.

    • predalien1413
      predalien1413 2 months ago

      Fun in what way? Offended eh maybe more like disgust, would you like me to make it your problem by way of annoyance. Just kidding, well I'm glad you enjoyed the movie I guess.

    • JEFFREY
      JEFFREY 2 months ago

      Jeb Kush
      I agree. It wasn’t a great movie but it wasn’t horrible either. It was an average action film that I’ll forget in a week. No big deal

    • Allan Alberts
      Allan Alberts 2 months ago +3

      nah, i disagree. This movie was just pure fun. If the movie offended you in anyway, thats not my problem. ;)

  • Quipt Training
    Quipt Training 2 months ago +3

    The numbers will go up this week, the guys who plan on watching this movie including me were busy this last weekend watching the boxing fight. I plan to see the movie this week

    • Quipt Training
      Quipt Training 2 months ago

      yes actually I do. I watched the movie this last Monday tho, movie is trash I actually hope they dnt go waste thier time on a movie that the director himself didn't give a crap about

    • Jx Styx
      Jx Styx 2 months ago

      Maybe not that big of a drop because the competition this week is non-existent.

    • DrinkwithaMexican
      DrinkwithaMexican 2 months ago +3

      Really. You think all boxing fans stayed home to watch that fight and not see the Predator. I bet it takes a 50% drop next week.

  • CB 1014
    CB 1014 2 months ago +11

    The original looking predator in this movie is the best we’ve ever seen him

    • frog zilla987
      frog zilla987 2 months ago

      I dont like the way adi does the suits. Stan winstons and the classic pred from predators all look better imo

    • HBTB 2750
      HBTB 2750 2 months ago +1

      Hated the armor and mask but it wasn't bad. I actually prefer the suits over the CGI

    • Fishels
      Fishels 2 months ago +2

      CB 1014 that’s why the movie is such a shame

  • CB 1014
    CB 1014 2 months ago +1

    Imo... the only thing that stunk in The Predator was the final scene. In all honesty, the stupid sex offender bullshit story hurt it. It prob wouldve had a $35 mil opening if not for Olivia Munn non stop interviewing about that non-story

  • Soji SideQuest
    Soji SideQuest 2 months ago +1

    Film looks like a cheesy 80s action fest.
    It’s going to kill in Blu-ray sales.

  • CB 1014
    CB 1014 2 months ago +24

    The Predator was good... was it great??? No. Was it as bad as rotten tomatoes critics are making it out to be? Absolutely not.

    • Sean Pittaway
      Sean Pittaway 27 days ago

      Its worse!as soon as the predator put that severed arm thru with the thumbs up I turned it off,complete bollocks!Shane blacks character in original told bad jokes....life mirrors art,he's told another 1

    • a grown man got beef with a fictional character
      a grown man got beef with a fictional character 2 months ago

      Quipt Training the second predator movie was ass bro

    • Quipt Training
      Quipt Training 2 months ago +3

      no way, this movie was trash. I am a fan of the first 2 predator films but I am also a fan of films that you can tell the director did everything they can to make a good film and this one is main stream Jurassic world 2 bullshit. I left 20 minutes before the movie ended because I couldn't deal with all the bad story decisions

    • Mr. Manager
      Mr. Manager 2 months ago +1

      +mkleejr34 How is it anything like a Marvel movie?

    • Papa Pred
      Papa Pred 2 months ago +4

      This movie was a abomination to the franchise. We went from badass trophy hunters to a bunch of inbred aliens trying to become autistic

  • Alex Maverick
    Alex Maverick 2 months ago +7

    No one really gives a shit about Predator movies anymore, so they should've amped the marketing way more than they did. Or just not made it at all, that would've been better.

    • Luka Lame
      Luka Lame 2 months ago +1

      Alex Maverick even Predators that has a 65% on RT barely made any money. So even if the movies in this franchise get good reviews. It still wont be able to make a lot of money. Maybe the franchise is better as a tv show.

    • GIOVANNI Martin
      GIOVANNI Martin 2 months ago +1

      i agree

  • Avengers Endgame
    Avengers Endgame 2 months ago +19

    I don’t care what people say I LOVED this movie!!

  • George Thimakis
    George Thimakis 2 months ago +19

    It was a good movie i hope ppl go and see it

    • George Thimakis
      George Thimakis 2 months ago

      +NOD_MAKO i liked it not my favorite and with the ending i really wanna see a sequel but its not looking good for me lol

    • George Thimakis
      George Thimakis 2 months ago +1

      +Patrick Yip yes it was

    • Adriel Omar Díaz
      Adriel Omar Díaz 2 months ago +2

      Patrick Yip man shut yo goofy ass up

    • NOD_MAKO
      NOD_MAKO 2 months ago +1

      George Thimakis it ducks but I hope this doesn’t kill the franchise

    • Patrick Yip
      Patrick Yip 2 months ago +4

      No, it wasn't.

  • Harry
    Harry 2 months ago

    first :)

  • RedMag
    RedMag 2 months ago +19

    After watching Predator I noticed it’s nothing like what we saw in the first production photos just like how justice league movie was different from the trailer. At least this predator was more entertaining that the new alien movies Ridley Scott is putting out.

    • GIOVANNI Martin
      GIOVANNI Martin 2 months ago

      +LegendofHalo he doesn't have one

    • LegendofHalo
      LegendofHalo 2 months ago

      Mytrell Hughes
      Aliens never won either. Your point?

    • GIOVANNI Martin
      GIOVANNI Martin 2 months ago

      +Jens Aversjö lol

    • Jens Aversjö
      Jens Aversjö 2 months ago

      Mytrell Hughes: Considering Twilight is a better movie than Covenant, I doubt it.

    • GIOVANNI Martin
      GIOVANNI Martin 2 months ago

      ok enough you two. Mytrell, just watch alien covenet. snd Dan, you can watch all of the good old movies and not the crap ones and we can call it a day.

  • Cross
    Cross 2 months ago

    Dude I saw the movie and it was Garbo....it wasn't funny, the group of "heros" was a lackluster bunch and the whole premise was really stupid. It reminded me of the mummy returns but nowhere near as good. Like u got a father who is a badass, finds "tech" that somehow the son gets a hold of, u got a small time bad guy and a larger big time bad guy....ehhlike I rather have a whole movie following the smaller predator and his fucking storyline...having humans in predator movies is stupid. It's like having AVP but u got mainly humans in the movie...I want to see mainly Aliens versus predators...it's the whole transformers argument. I want to see transformers not fucking humans